Ming loyalists on Russia

What if the Remnants of Ming and their loyalists fled to Russia after the destruction of the Ming Empire? what would happen?
 
Geographically speaking, impossible. Qing lands are in the way, and they'd also end up going through Mongolia. Although the Revolt of the Three Feudatories would also be possible in restoring the Ming and have the Manchus annexed to Russia.
 
Geographically speaking, impossible. Qing lands are in the way, and they'd also end up going through Mongolia. Although the Revolt of the Three Feudatories would also be possible in restoring the Ming and have the Manchus annexed to Russia.

I was thinking of Ming collapsing at the 16th century and the Ming Loyalists and the Ming Royals seek help on Russia.
 
So when does Brunei or Taiwan come in this?

Sicilian Formosa takes Shanghai and has a personal union with Brunei.

I never thought of making a bruneian timeline, so stop talking nonsense about it.

Don't insult me in this forums, if you want just PM me about this.


Geographically speaking, impossible. Qing lands are in the way, and they'd also end up going through Mongolia. Although the Revolt of the Three Feudatories would also be possible in restoring the Ming and have the Manchus annexed to Russia.
I thought Russia already expanded to the east when the Ming lost power.
 
I never thought of making a bruneian timeline, so stop talking nonsense about it.

Don't insult me in this forums, if you want just PM me about this.

I don't mean to be rude, but it is hard to tell where the line is between what you seriously (or at least intentionally) propose as ideas and what is just random.
 
I don't mean to be rude, but it is hard to tell where the line is between what you seriously (or at least intentionally) propose as ideas and what is just random.

I was just asking the plausibility of this..I tend to hang on a certain questions on a certain event or place that interests me and ask questions on scenarios of both timelines I wanted to make or timelines I hated to make because they both interest me.
 
It's actually a good question, and I don't think it warrants any snark.

The problem is, it won't play out with Russia getting actively involved. Russian control over eastern Siberia didn't really solidify until the second half of the 17th century. Any Ming loyalist refugees who managed to make their way through Mongolia would be better advised to head for Persia than Moscow. But if they made it to Russia, this could indeed have interesting repercussions. I could see an exiled pretender making all kinds of promises to the Romanov, and the Russians had trade links with China and interests in eastern Siberia long before they were neighbours in any meaningful sense. If they misunderstand the Chinese idea of what makes an emperor and expect there to be loyalists ready to rise up (like there had been during the Time of Troubles in Muscovy), they might try to use their puppet exile regime when the confrontation with China does come.
 
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