Middle Kingdom

This is my first time line so guys please be kind and its still a draft(below is just a small introduction) ^^


The point of departure from the real world is that on 1160 AD a small child who lived in Kui(Sothern Song) named Yang yang who was about 8 years old at that time. He was a son of a pig farmer, he was also fund of playing with their live stock, got a mysterious illness. It was a very lethal virus and also was easily communicable. So it spread very quickly that with in a year it spread out all over china and other neighboring areas.
With in a couple of months there was unrest in almost all major town and cities were riddled with unrest and rebellion. People were saying that the Emperor has lost the mandate of heaven. Stating that the illness that caused so many deaths was the sign that the Emperor lost it. It wasn't long before the dynasty collapsed. And it was when an angry mob stormed the imperial palace burning it, along with all inside the palace including the emperor. Officially ending the Dynasty by 1162. Just with in 2 years of the first outbreak.

And it was only in 1183 Wie Lau, 38, an alchemist by profession discovered a cure for the disease. The people made him Emperor and declared the New Lau Dynasty by 1185.

By the time the out break was over it killed around a fifth of the population of China, a sixth of the people of Mongolia, around 5-10% in Korea how ever it miraculously resulted in less than a thousand deaths in areas out side the previously stated.

Emperor Wei due to the fact that he was an alchemist was a man who was very interested in the sciences. So during his reign he encouraged the pursuit of knowledge through the sciences and the establishment of several Academies and Universities.




To be continued.(This time line will feature a world colonized mostly by Japan, Korea and China)


what do you think? do you like it? is it plausible? Shall i continue? or should i stop?
comments and suggestions are accepted.
 
This is my first time line so guys please be kind and its still a draft(below is just a small introduction) ^^


The point of departure from the real world is that on 1160 AD a small child who lived in Kui(Sothern Song) named Yang yang who was about 8 years old at that time. He was a son of a pig farmer, he was also fund of playing with their live stock, got a mysterious illness. It was a very lethal virus and also was easily communicable. So it spread very quickly that with in a year it spread out all over china and other neighboring areas.
With in a couple of months there was unrest in almost all major town and cities were riddled with unrest and rebellion. People were saying that the Emperor has lost the mandate of heaven. Stating that the illness that caused so many deaths was the sign that the Emperor lost it. It wasn't long before the dynasty collapsed. And it was when an angry mob stormed the imperial palace burning it, along with all inside the palace including the emperor. Officially ending the Dynasty by 1162. Just with in 2 years of the first outbreak.

And it was only in 1183 Wie Lau, 38, an alchemist by profession discovered a cure for the disease. The people made him Emperor and declared the New Lau Dynasty by 1185.

By the time the out break was over it killed around a fifth of the population of China, a sixth of the people of Mongolia, around 5-10% in Korea how ever it miraculously resulted in less than a thousand deaths in areas out side the previously stated.

Emperor Wei due to the fact that he was an alchemist was a man who was very interested in the sciences. So during his reign he encouraged the pursuit of knowledge through the sciences and the establishment of several Academies and Universities.




To be continued.(This time line will feature a world colonized mostly by Japan, Korea and China)


what do you think? do you like it? is it plausible? Shall i continue? or should i stop?
comments and suggestions are accepted.

A few things.
One, just keep your timeline entry in the regular sized font since its more pleasing on the eyes.

Two, whats the disease. How is it cured?
I'm not trying to be harsh, but it seems like your just handwaving away the previous dynasty in order to get a more progressive one on the throne.

There have also been previous discussions on why China didn't colonise the Americas, some of the more notable being that the Pacific is alot larger than the Atlantic, America has nothing China wants, and quite abit harder to expand east across North and South America due to the Rockies and the Andes.

Beyond this, congratulations on your first timeline and I look forward to seeing a world dominated by China, Korea, and Japan.

I do however think it needs a bit more work.
 
A few things.
One, just keep your timeline entry in the regular sized font since its more pleasing on the eyes.

Two, whats the disease. How is it cured?
I'm not trying to be harsh, but it seems like your just handwaving away the previous dynasty in order to get a more progressive one on the throne.

There have also been previous discussions on why China didn't colonise the Americas, some of the more notable being that the Pacific is alot larger than the Atlantic, America has nothing China wants, and quite abit harder to expand east across North and South America due to the Rockies and the Andes.

Beyond this, congratulations on your first timeline and I look forward to seeing a world dominated by China, Korea, and Japan.

I do however think it needs a bit more work.


thank you for the much welcomed comment

im going to put more indepth explanation later but for now im gonna reseach some more

in my time line china, japan and korea will colonize due to competition with each other

much like what happened to the Europeans during the age of colonization
 
Two, whats the disease. How is it cured?
I'm not trying to be harsh, but it seems like your just handwaving away the previous dynasty in order to get a more progressive one on the throne.
Indeed. There are very few diseases that could be cured by an apothecary back then. Certainly not viruses. I might go so far as to say that if ANY effective drug were shown to cure ANY disease that early there'd be huge repercussions in history....
 
Indeed. There are very few diseases that could be cured by an apothecary back then. Certainly not viruses. I might go so far as to say that if ANY effective drug were shown to cure ANY disease that early there'd be huge repercussions in history....

There's also the matter of distribution. A pre modern state simply doesn't have the ability to both manufacture and distribute a cure for a fast moving pandemic.
 
How about dropping the idea of the cure, and having a Hong Xiuquan type become emperor by claiming responsibility for the natural burn out of the plague?


ok, i'll pust that as a final choice
but i want the chinese people to find out he importance of the study of the sciences in this case it gave rise to a cure of the plague
 
ok, i'll pust that as a final choice
but i want the chinese people to find out he importance of the study of the sciences in this case it gave rise to a cure of the plague

I don't think the Chinese ever had a disrespect for the sciences. They were just as advanced technologically (or more so) until Europe experienced the Scientific Revolution.

The other problem is that Japan and Korea just can't compete in the best form against China. In Europe's case, all the countries were relatively evenly matched. The bigger ones population wise suffered from adminstrave problems (France had some terrible financial institutions and Germany and Italy were politically disunited) while the relatively smaller ones like Britain or the Netherlands were well streamlined and effective states.

The situation isn't similiar in the east though. The Chinese from what I know ran a very centralised state. The Japanese, who might have been saved from China's massive armies, suffered from political decentralisation at every chance people got. Korea meanwhile is just in far too close reach of China for them to be an effective competitor. Remember, its far easier to win a colonial war by taking out the metropole. Korea wouldn't really stand a chance against China in such a situation.
 
ok, i'll pust that as a final choice
but i want the chinese people to find out he importance of the study of the sciences in this case it gave rise to a cure of the plague

I don't think the Chinese ever had a disrespect for the sciences. They were just as advanced technologically (or more so) until Europe experienced the Scientific Revolution.
What Dreadnought Jenkins said. Moreover, what EVERYBODY had until about, oh, 1700, was technology, not real science. The development of a 'science' and the scientific method was a HUGE advance in Europe, and a bit subtle. Another single random discovery isn't going to affect China at all. You'd really need some practical use for a theoretical discovery. Chemistry might be your best bet. The Chinese had apothecaries, and I believe alchemists, and if someone comes up with a flawed theory that lets them discover, oh... acids, and then someone comes up with a better theory that predicts things better... It's not going to be showy, but real science rarely is.

Remember, that what makes science science is that you develop theories, test them and then develop better ones. Even if Popper's Falsifiability only is ennunciated in the 20th century, the fact is that that is the core of science, whether anyone quite realized it or not earlier on.
 
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