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It seems that nobody has noticed this, but it was exactly what I thought when I read the title.When do they seize Texas? Because Texas was technically part of Mexico.
It seems that nobody has noticed this, but it was exactly what I thought when I read the title.When do they seize Texas? Because Texas was technically part of Mexico.
Really Mexico's best longterm solution by the time of the Texas revolution, would be to recognize Texan independence to the full extent of it's claims under condition that the republic makes no more territorial claims on Mexican territory(specificly including California, nipping Lamar's pipe dreams) and that Texas does not join the US(maybe make some legal language that if Texas does join the US it renouces all claims south and west of the Nueces line they tried to enforce OTL as a further deterrant beyond their word).
This would then give a buffer between Mexico and the US, and if they aggressively keep the Anglos out of California, it's likely they could hold on to it. That's curb at least the southern half of Manifest Destiny. The northern half, you'd likely see a 54-40 war as a kneejerk to this.
There is a general feeling from this thread that without Anglos nothing happens in Texas, and that is incorrect.
the Anglos who settled in TX did accept the supremacy of Mexico. The rebellion (at first) was over the fact that they wanted more representation in Mexico's government, along with the continuation of their special tax/customs waivers (rather a parallel with the ARW), and the continuation of immigration from the USA (many in TX had family they wanted to bring in). Only after Austin was mistreated did they really go into independence mode...1. Texas is settled by Mexicans and perhaps with Anglos who accept the supremacy of Mexico
About the only thing that would do that is having a Mexico that is vastly more stable in the first place, which would probably butterfly away the whole Anglo settlement/rebellion in the first place.
the Anglos who settled in TX did accept the supremacy of Mexico. The rebellion (at first) was over the fact that they wanted more representation in Mexico's government, along with the continuation of their special tax/customs waivers (rather a parallel with the ARW), and the continuation of immigration from the USA (many in TX had family they wanted to bring in).
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This in my mind begs the question, what if Mexico didn't try to clamp down onto Texjs (such as banning slavery, which was only really happening in Tejas)?
Santa Anna did plan to clamp down on TX, which is what started the rebellion in the first place... he was going to end further immigration from the USA (rather distressing to those who still had families to bring over), end the Texans' special tax and customs waivers, etc. Slavery... was never really a big issue. For one thing, it was avoided by the Mexican law that allowed 99 year indentured servant contracts. For another, slaves were found among the wealthy Mexican families, mainly 'exotic' Native American house slaves; clamping down on slavery in TX would bring this practice into focus. Thus, although slavery in Mexico was technically illegal, laws against it were routinely ignored.
My point about the slavery was that Tejas was had the largest amount of slaves not that it didn't happen elsewhere.