Where?Early 1900s there were several.
Where?Early 1900s there were several.
I am well aware of the statues that exist in 21st century Southern states OTL, but these statues would likely celebrate victory. Also, the statues and monuments would almost certainly poorly researched versions of Washington and Jefferson(simply for owning slaves and being from Virginia). The real Confederacy had Washington on a horse as the national seal.Nothing that different from those existing today in most of Dixie.
Oh those places....Cough, cough.
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It was the Age of Revolution. Are you thinking specifically about Leninist Communists or only urban workers? Because there were plenty of peasent revolts, slave uprisings, outright revolutions, replacements of monarchs, changing of systems of government, etc. For urban workers you can look at the New York Draft Riots or the riots at the New York abolition of slavery. Both involving loads of Irish immigrants attacking those who had been there longer out of the thought it would depress wages for themselves. Though the Dragt Riot itself would be after the time limit you gave, the previous one at abolition when African-Americans were basically cleared out of Manhattan still stands.How many "worker's revolutions" had there been between 1619 and 1861?
Oh yeah. . . absolutely none.
Russia and Germany (failed)France in 1870 (short lived) as well as strong Communists movements in all European countries and in the United States.Where?
Why would a racist slave-based society have a Communist Revolution??? Maybe a slave revolt, but this is the Confederacy we are talking about where there is near total racial subjugation and abolitionism would be seen as treason.
Exactly. I never said the slave revolt would be successful. The slavery without slavery sharecropping system and chain gangs that faded away around the depression and WWII existed OTL.And any revolt would put down violently. No way that slave revolt could be succesful. And I can't see commie revolution there. Even OTL USA hasn't been on any poin even near of that. So why CSA would be?
And even if there would be succesful slave revolt or communist revolution, CSA wouldn't be same what it was on 1860's and then discussion about memorials of OTL CSA would be pretty pointless when they hardly would erect statues or other memorial sites for Confederate generals or politicians.
Russia and Germany (failed)France in 1870 (short lived) as well as strong Communists movements in all European countries and in the United States.
The chaos caused by the collapse of the cotton industry would be fertile fertile ground for radical political thought.
Why would a racist slave-based society have a Communist Revolution??? Maybe a slave revolt, but this is the Confederacy we are talking about where there is near total racial subjugation and abolitionism would be seen as treason.
I think they'd just put slaves in the mines and factories(see the peonage stuff in OTL) in the 1890's, as they were founded on the "right to own slaves." Thoughts of a different "racial dictatorship"(with whites ruling blacks by law), might be discussed with mental somersaults though by their political "left".It was in OTL, and that's where you got the Populist movement and Southern Populist politicians who railed against the planters but many of whom were generally in favour of the racial and economic status quo despite claiming to represent poor white people.
What you won't get is a communist revolution, although you might as well get a socialist party, which will, at most, be as strong as the US Socialist Party.
They wouldn't, but the odds of a Populist sort of movement arising as in the OTL South I think is inevitable. It doesn't even need to be abolitionist focused, although it might as well be.
Here is where the leaders of the Confederacy do as the OTL New South did around the 1890s and use monuments to remind people of what their nation stands for. It could help divert people's attention away from abolitionism, or if slavery is abolished (I think the 1890s/early 1900s is probably the time the CSA would shift away from slavery to some sort of pseudo-slavery/peonage), help divide the poor whites and poor blacks.
chillingIIRC, there was a brief scene in David Poyer's novel, The Shiloh Project, in which one of the characters (I think it was one of the African-American characters, but I can't remember now) stops for a moment at the base of the War Memorial in Richmond to read the inscription thereon, which was something to the effect of "THAT THESE NOBLE SONS OF VIRGINIA SOIL GAVE THEIR LIVES TO PURCHASE FREEDOM FOR ALL TIME" or words to that effect.
I don't have my copy of the paperback anymore, so perhaps someone can confirm my recollection.