Is there a way to pull of a modernization of Persia at all similar to that of Meiji Japan? I'm curious because I've been considering looking into doing a TL on Persia.
Meiji-style modernization in Persia?
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Unlikely, by the time the Persians try to modernize Russian and British interference is doing all it can to keep Iran under their influence. You would need a POD in the early Safavids that breaks the chaos that takes place everytine a Shah dies, and you need to curb the power of the Qizilbash, who turned into the clergy.
Unlikely, by the time the Persians try to modernize Russian and British interference is doing all it can to keep Iran under their influence. You would need a POD in the early Safavids that breaks the chaos that takes place everytine a Shah dies, and you need to curb the power of the Qizilbash, who turned into the clergy.
you posted the same thing twice. Don't know if ya meant to do that.
Perhaps as late as Nadir Shah if he doesn't piss off everyone with increasingly despotic rule and get himself assassinated. Or stronger Zands that are able to project their rule beyond their regional power base.
It is possible to do around 1860+, just have to negate Russian/British influence in the region, such as greater Indian hostilities that weakens British rule or earlier revolutionary sentiment in Russia.
I doubt it, modernization tends to mean things colonial powers don't like, like the ability to make money on their own and run their own factories both of which infringe on their capitalists interests. It would take an incredibly talented Shah to pull that off which they just didn't have at the time.
Yes, if the great power needs Persia as ally and is able to support the modernization.
Reza Khan's Persia in EdT's FabR is an example of this kind of modernization.
Although I doubt they would need the ally, the two major competitors in for influence in Persia either wherent well modernized themselves (Russia) or really dont need them as an ally (Britain).
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I feel that Iran is too central of a location to avoid being meddled with by the regional/colonial powers of the world. Japan was unique in that their resources were not worth the effort, as they were in a pretty isolated occasion and possessed (relatively) advanced weaponry. Iran was smack dab in the middle of everything, and it is unlikely they would be allowed to "do their thing".
Though of course anything is possible with an early enough PoD.
Though of course anything is possible with an early enough PoD.
We are talking about alternate history, not real life history.
Czarist Russia in the aforementioned FabR is modernized, though not liberalised, while Persia's British ally in Zach's Pax Napoleonica-TL is lucky to have someone important like the Shah of Persia willing to ally with the defeated, weakened post-Great War Britain.