wolf_brother
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Isn't industrialization premature? We're really thinking about a state which adopts metallurgy, writing, and maybe gunpowder; a Congo in the Andes.
Agreed; everyone ITT seems to be jumping way ahead of themselves.
They already had metallurgy (bronze) and sort-of writing (interaction with the Spanish might inspire the to develop their own full writing system from quipu or simply adopt the Latin alphabet.) The centralized nature of the state allows reforms to be easily propagated throughout the empire if a ruler so chooses. Indeed, the decentralization of Japan was one of the main things Meiji had to fight against.
Yes, but 'pulling a Meiji' in the 14th century means gaining steel and guns, not gunboats and telegraphs. Comparisons to Japan are rather far off the mark; Faeelin was quite correct in saying a 'Kongo of the Andes' would be more accurate.
It would also be interesting to see how the Incans, or whatever their name of their nationstate will become, effect the writings of Marx and Engels. As such a large "pre-capitalist" society that is still surviving would be worth mentioning, even as declining. It would probably spark as if not larger migration of social conscious workers to South America from Europe in order to cue up to take part in the few remaining civilizations centered around communal sharing.
It would also be interesting to see how IOTL's socialism develops in a timeline with a POD at least as far back as the 14th century, if not even earlier, and the subsequent four centuries of butterflies, or even more.
Discussions of industrial socialism is wildly premature considering the Inka will be lucky to survive another few decades over IOTL.
That is indeed a problem. Maybe a person-to-person transmitted cowpox?
I'm not sure how this solves the issue. Smallpox wasn't the only major disease the Europeans introduced to the Americas, by far. You'd still need to find a POD, or several, to prevent or limit the impact of bubonic plague, chicken pox, cholera, influenza, leprosy, malaria, measles, whooping cough, scarlet fever, typhoid, typhus, yellow fever, and yaws.