Medival East-European pagans convert to Islam

I think the question of pork and alcohol could be solved by having the slavs adopt a different, more environmentally suitable interpretation of sharia law. The second line in this verse may be useful as "being forced to eat it" could be related to the living environment:

He has forbidden you only the Maytah (dead animals), and blood, and the flesh of swine, and that which is slaughtered as a sacrifice for others than Allaah (or has been slaughtered for idols, on which Allaah’s Name has not been mentioned while slaughtering). But if one is forced by necessity without willful disobedience nor transgressing due limits, then there is no sin on him. Truly, Allaah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful
[al-Baqarah 2:173]


I mean, sure, they'd be seen as kafir by their brethren south in the middle east, but it's common for religious taboos to be discarded or created depending on the situation of the people who follow them.
Sorry but it's not permissable in this case. They aren't forced to it because they have alternatives.
 
We're ignoring Volga Bulgaria here, which converted to Islam despite minimal reason to, although there was the issue of the Khazars.

But there isn't even the Khazars as a problem to worry about for them. You'd need Bulgaria/Hungary to convert to Islam, if not a TL where the Arabs conquer Constantinople and can spread Islam into Eastern Europe.

Being surrounded by Christian states and perhaps a pagan Rus, I find it hard to believe any Eastern European state would accept the religion of Volga Bulgaria, since that was a fringe of Islam to begin with.

The Volga Bulgars was plains dwellers, it's a environment where pigs aren't needed as forest forager and Where it's garbage-to-calorie function can be replaced by chickens.
 
I think the question of pork and alcohol could be solved by having the slavs adopt a different, more environmentally suitable interpretation of sharia law. The second line in this verse may be useful as "being forced to eat it" could be related to the living environment:
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The difference is that Muslim who ignore the standard Islamic interpretion are usual people which have been conquered by Muslims and set up syncretic version of Islam, which gives them the benefit of being Muslims without changing their lifestyle. Why would you convert to Islam without social pressure, if you don't want to follow the existing rules?
 

PhilippeO

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We're ignoring Volga Bulgaria here, which converted to Islam despite minimal reason to, although there was the issue of the Khazars.

i think Volga Bulagria has some trade in Caspian Sea ? is Ahmad bin Fadlan send there because Caliph had relation with them ?
 
i think Volga Bulagria has some trade in Caspian Sea ? is Ahmad bin Fadlan send there because Caliph had relation with them ?

Volga Bulgaria converted to Islam to make a common cause against the Khazars and the later Pechenegs with that of the Abbasid. Further, their conversion came at a far later time and for very special reasons. They should not be counted as no Slavic state in east Europe will ally with the Abbasids to battle any single nation.

It is also laughable to find an enemy strong enough to force such an alliance. Byzantium certainly is not a foe worrisome enough to do so. Abbasids further had no overt interest in conquest of Byzantium whilst their entire Eastern front is descending into warlordism and North Africa is a sea of mines with warlordism prevailing.
 
Volga Bulgaria converted to Islam to make a common cause against the Khazars and the later Pechenegs with that of the Abbasid. Further, their conversion came at a far later time and for very special reasons. They should not be counted as no Slavic state in east Europe will ally with the Abbasids to battle any single nation.

Completely correct especially because the Volga Bulgar was Turks not Slavs.
 
Keep in mind, guys, that this isn't even asking about the Slavs converting, this is asking about:

the Baltics, Prussians, Wends, Finnish Sami and other late pagans of Europe

If Slavs converting to Islam is extremely implausible, then the nations listed here may as well be counted as impossible.
 
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