Medieval America Mark III

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  1. Flashman A Real Go-Getter

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    Maybe Circuits are both reduced and size and increased in number so each state comprises a single Circuit, while the District Supervisors correspond to the current federal district courts?
     
  2. Richard Drummond Well-Known Member

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    I'm thinking they should be merged with the District Supervisors.
     
  3. tehskyman Engineer for the money

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    Maybe there are circuit courts, which is an institution separate from the District Supervisors. Supervisors act as the head of the church in a region/state, they manage the placement of priests, the allocation of wealth, relations with secular rulers etc.

    The Circuit Courts adjudicate various decisions in a particular region and are hosted by a District Supervisor. There are District supervisors in all the old state capitols but there are only a few circuit courts.

    They are hosted in
    1st: Boston
    2nd: NYC
    3rd: Philadelphia
    4th: Richmond VA
    5th: New Orleans
    6th: Cincinatti
    7th: Chicago
    8th: St Louis (Temporarily Suspended during Bailey Invasions )
    9th: Temporarily suspended due to Western Emergency
    10th: Temporarily suspended due to Western Emergency
    11th: Atlanta
     
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  4. Threadmarks: Summary of American Government

    Flashman A Real Go-Getter

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    Alright, so to summarize-

    -Presidents adopt the name of former Presidents upon their ascension to the Resolute Desk. This tradition began with "George Washington II", an admiral who at some point after years of emergency government and confusion managed to save the last vestiges of the federal government outside the church from total ruination. He drafted the Articles of Emergency, which outline how the government should function for the duration of the Regression.

    -Counter to White's assertion, the Senate does not operate as the legislature of the United States. Rather, it serves primarily as an ecclesiastical body due to the Senate's control over judicial matters. Half of the Senators are the District Supervisors, the other half are clergymen appointed by the sovereigns of each District Supervisory. The Western Senators are half appointed by the Chief Justice with the Senate acting as a rubber stamp, the other half by the President with Senatorial approval. Both are taken from the "Courts-in-Exile" of the Western states, those descended from the old Westerners.

    -The Supreme Court is elected by the Senate with the President acting as a rubber stamp in a reversal of current policy. Similarly, the District Supervisories are filled by the Supreme Court with the President as a rubber stamp.

    -The House serves as America's primary legislature, with each representative elected by landholders in territories directly administered by the USA.

    -Due to the suspension of the Electoral College in the election of Presidents (I would like to see it somehow repurposed however), after Election Day the vote is automatically thrown to Congress. The House elects the President and the Vice President is elected by the Senate. The appointment of the President is a life term, and the Vice President only administers the nation until the next Election Day. The President is sworn in by the Chief Justice.

    -The District Supervisors are seated in old State Capitals, and the actual Federal Court Districts are equivalent to Bishops. Circuit Courts of Appeals exist not to administer the clergy but purely to ajudicate and kick decisions up to the Supreme Court.

    Anything I've missed?
     
  5. Richard Drummond Well-Known Member

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    That is very good. What exactly didWhite saw about the Senate? I have forgotten.
     
  6. tehskyman Engineer for the money

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    Just a nit pick. Half the members of the Senate are not District Supervisors. They are representatives of the supervisors. For closer states like the Carolinas and the Mid Atlantic supervisors don't send representatives often and usually just go in person. For somewhere like Wisconsin that is obviously not possible so they usually send a proxy instead.
     
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  7. Flashman A Real Go-Getter

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    Just that the Senate was the legislature of the United States, but I think it makes more sense to have the House serve that purpose with the Senate acting as a primarily ceremonial body in terms of day to day governance.
     
  8. HonestAbe1809 Abraham Lincoln 2020

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    What if Ohio had attempted to elevate their local circuit court to the level of being another Supreme Court? Would that work as backstory for this universe?
     
  9. Flashman A Real Go-Getter

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    Similar to the Anti-Pope in Avignon? Yeah that could work.
     
  10. Flashman A Real Go-Getter

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    The Gullah-Geechee Cultural Heritage Corridor

    The Gullah-Geechee Cultural Heritage Corridor was established towards the dawn of the 21st century by the Federal Government to preserve the culture and history of the Gullah people. The Gullah are an ancient people, the direct descendants of slaves in the Carolina Sea Islands who preserved their African culture in splendid isolation. However, the relentless advance of modernity threatened to finally drive the Gullah to extinction until a reprieve was offered by the Regression. As the condos and pleasure towns that were overtaking the Sea Islands fell into disrepair, the Gullah moved back in, cultivating rice and fishing the seas as they had for centuries prior.

    However, the rise of Evangelist warlords threatened the renewed isolation of the Gullah. The effective reintroduction of slavery by the Evangelists led to raids on Gullah settlements, and some maritime warlords even attempted to conquer the Sea Islands. The Gullah were not powerful enough to fight these oppressors by themselves, and they badly needed allies.

    After nearly three centuries of chaos, the Federal government began to re-assert itself under the leadership of the admiral called George Washington II, whose true name has been lost to history. He drafted the Articles of Emergency in cooperation with the Supreme Court, and sought to lay the groundwork for the re-unification of the country. To this end, he looked to the South. The South was not only beyond the control of the Federal government, but beyond the grasp of the Federal church. To assuage the worries of the Supreme Court, he promised to bring the South to heel.

    The Admiral closely followed the Union’s war plan during the Civil War. While the US navy was too weak to capture the Gulf, the sea islands of the Carolinas were well in its reach. The US justified its conquest of much of this outlying territory through the existence of the Gullah/Geechee Historical Corridor, arguing that the Southern states had neglected their stewardship of the Gullah people and that the US must step in.

    The Gullah for their part were of two minds when it came to accepting federal rule. On the one hand, the US were perceived as saviors from Southron oppression just as they had been during the Civil War, and the Nondenominational notions of the US as God’s chosen kingdom that would bring liberty to all of the downtrodden appealed to them immensely. On the other hand, joining such a cosmopolitan state as the United States would mean that the splendid isolation the Gullah enjoyed would be forever ended, and that they would be thrown into the maritime melting point.

    In the end, the Gullah had little choice, and most communities sided with the US navy. The US used its bases along the Southron coast down to Jacksonville to aid its inland allies and choke the Evangelists. With the Tchaktaw invasions and the rise of House Beauregard, one of the Admiral’s last acts was to finally divide the coasts of the South between the US and Georgia. This reduced the extent of the Gullah-Geechee Corridor from the entirety of the Lowcountry to a select few islands and territories. The exact size of the Corridor has waxed and waned over the years with wars and diplomacy. Today, it consists of three Districts: the District of Augustine, the District of Darien, and the District of Beaufort. Each District sends a number of Representatives to Congress and is ruled by a Governor. The Corridor as a whole is ruled by the Chief Governor in Jacksonville.

    Today, the Gullah are scattered between Federal districts and the coast still held by the states. Many of their fears about throwing in with the US government and the Church have been confirmed, with many of their traditions being watered down and their isolation forgotten for a culture of farfarers sailing form Newfoundland to New Orleans. On the other hand, they have managed to preserve much of their culture, even spreading it into the American and indeed Church mainstream. The Gullah are constantly playing the States and the Federal Government off each other to preserve their fragile independence.
     
  11. HonestAbe1809 Abraham Lincoln 2020

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    If there's any country powerful enough to even think about doing it, it's Ohio.
     
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  12. Richard Drummond Well-Known Member

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    Good update. It gives us a set time for George Washington II and ties in well with the Georgian events. Whilst looking at White's resources, I found a map which showed North Carolina ruling the US' lands in the Carolinas. Perhaps that could be used in the history somehow.
     

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  13. tehskyman Engineer for the money

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    I wonder if monks of Medieval America have ridiculous haircuts like European ones did
     
  14. Flashman A Real Go-Getter

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    Powdered wigs?
     
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  15. HonestAbe1809 Abraham Lincoln 2020

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    That could work. Another option, since the Supreme Court is the Vatican equivalent, is to forget that wigs and robes were a British court thing and do that.
     
  16. Richard Drummond Well-Known Member

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    It'd be fun for churchmen to wear powdered wigs. Will distinguish them from European monks.
     
  17. Rob Bartlett Member

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    This was seriously going to be my next article. In short, throughout Middle America, it is common to have haircuts similar to those worn by the Normans. Very short bowl cuts are also common among the Churchmen, due to the tidiness and that it cuts through a lot of racial lines.

    Wigs are also fairly popular throughout the Deep South, because the climate encourages people to shave their heads, but they are not necessarily powdered wigs as seen in the 18th century.
     
  18. Richard Drummond Well-Known Member

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    Why would the Norman-Esque cut be popular?
     
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  19. KeeCoyote Well-Known Member

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    easiest wig to make after shaving your head to prevent head lice.
     
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  20. pattontank12 Better Dead than Red!

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    For some reason I kinda picture ww2/traditional styled mohawk being popular in North America amongst the clergy, especially with the militant warrior orders. That and just shaved heads & crew cuts in general for knightly orders.
     
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