Medieval America Mark III

Discussion in 'Alternate History Books and Media' started by Flashman, Jun 21, 2017.

  1. Stuyvesant #Gillibrand2020 Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2010
    Location:
    The Place Beyond the Pines
    It was the red, but I’d be willing to flip it and Champlain as to which is the Quebecker holdover.
     
  2. tehskyman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2013
    upload_2018-12-4_0-44-14.png

    Imo , those two nations, i.e. Rump Canada and Lake Champlain are the most likely to be invaded by Quebec and become Francicized. Vermont is too mountainous for a successful invasion. This would also be in line with what I wrote for the State of Ontario
     
  3. Stuyvesant #Gillibrand2020 Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2010
    Location:
    The Place Beyond the Pines
    So I guess I want to wonder why Syracuse is the Capital of New York State.
     
    HonestAbe1809 likes this.
  4. tehskyman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2013
    Albany is still technically the "capital", the governor happens to live just outside of Syracuse. However, Albany county is either a vassal, independent, or an ecclesiastic state. I'm leaning towards an ecclesiastic state run by a holy order. There aren't nearly enough of those so far and Quebec is right there. Vermont should also be an ecclesiastic state too.
     
    HonestAbe1809 likes this.
  5. tehskyman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2013
    Hmm, I wonder if Boston could have dual status as both an important port for the rump USA and the capital of the State of Massachusetts. Perhaps, there is a federal quarter of the city which contains the port and there is a state quarter. The same could go for Providence as well.

    As well, which of the great American universities would survive? The Ivy leagues probably would, but what about in the midwest, south, west etc.
     
    Flashman likes this.
  6. HonestAbe1809 Abraham Lincoln 2020

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2013
    The universities of the Great Plains are definitely screwed. It just depends on what the Cowboy position on literacy is.
     
  7. tehskyman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2013
    Only the priests are literate. And they don't need universities.
     
  8. Stuyvesant #Gillibrand2020 Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2010
    Location:
    The Place Beyond the Pines
    Alternate idea for Albany, Corporate State under the Canal Guilds.
     
  9. Flashman A Real Go-Getter

    Joined:
    May 14, 2011
    Location:
    The United Fruit Company, Arkham Office
    I agree with teshkyman, we need more monastic states and it makes sense. I suppose canal guilds could have an outsized influence, though.

    It's worth noting that Albany is not within the Great Lakes: the only post that NEEDS to be done now is the rump State of New York. After that all that's left is flavor and detailing. Once its done, we can move on to the Gulf.

    I'd considered this for a while especially with boston, as the line seems to be cutting though the city itself. I'd tenatively say that the US controls East Boston, South Boston and Charlestown, perhaps with a few other concessions here and there.

    As to universities that would last;

    The UC schools would probably be maintained in California, both for training the priesthood and the civil service.

    Colleges proliferate in the highly intellectual Northwest (Laska excepted), with Eugene being the largest center.

    I could see Brigham Young surviving as a Mormon seminary or civil service school.

    Most colleges in New Mexico were destroyed by the Simpletons, what ones survived were eclipsed as educational centers by temple complexes.

    None on the plains of course.

    Most Texan colleges were probably burned by the Andersons when they invaded.

    UChicago was likely destroyed but considering the prestige it may be in an ongoing process of rebuilding.

    William and Mary survives as a quasi-Ivy.

    I could see Penn State surviving. Same goes for Ohio and Michigan.

    Difficult to say with Louisiana, but I see most of the colleges dissappearing into the swamp.

    I would think that most of the schools in ajd around Washington would survive but become minor with the capital movinf to Baltimore.
     
  10. HonestAbe1809 Abraham Lincoln 2020

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2013
    Ohio should still have a post considering how huge it is in the region.
     
  11. tehskyman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2013
    Working on it
     
    HonestAbe1809 likes this.
  12. HonestAbe1809 Abraham Lincoln 2020

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2013
    Good to know.

    I just realized that the current New York City is likely built on artificial hills formed from the debris of the collapsing skyscrapers.
     
  13. tehskyman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2013
    hmmmm what to do about human structures

    thus far we've mostly ignored skyscrapers
     
  14. HonestAbe1809 Abraham Lincoln 2020

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2013
    It’s been centuries since they had any sort of maintenance. If I remember Life After People well, that means they should’ve collapsed long ago. Especially the newer glass-walled skyscrapers.
     
  15. Stuyvesant #Gillibrand2020 Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2010
    Location:
    The Place Beyond the Pines
    Once the Syracuse post gets made, I might make a post on the Canal Guilds, since that feeds into (both literally and figuratively) the Great Lakes.
     
    HonestAbe1809 likes this.
  16. tehskyman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2013
    I'm personally not sure that the canal itself would remain. However the valley through which it runs is still an important trade route.
     
    HonestAbe1809 likes this.
  17. tehskyman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2013
    I wonder why Matthew White continues to pay for his hosting fees.
     
  18. tehskyman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2013
    Flashman likes this.
  19. Flashman A Real Go-Getter

    Joined:
    May 14, 2011
    Location:
    The United Fruit Company, Arkham Office
    Since Tk. II it's been standard procedure to largely ignore them, with occasional exceptions for aesthetics (as in the case of Las Vegas).
     
  20. HonestAbe1809 Abraham Lincoln 2020

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2013
    Then NYC could be another such exception since it'd be filled with artificial hills formed from the debris and maybe a couple of rivers where streets used to be.