McKinley not assassinated

WilyBadger

So suppose that Leon Czogloz had really bad aim and instead of nailing McKinley managed to hit, say, a walnut tree. This means the big MC serves out his entire term with Roosevelt as VP.
What happens after he leaves office? I presume Roosevelt probably runs for president and wins, and probably is reelected in 1908. Is he able to get reelected in 1912? What happens with Panama? What's WWI like? What happens during the extra years of McKinley's term?
 

Wendell

A TL exists on this topic. That said, here are some of my thoughts:
  • TR likely won't seek a third term if he is even elected president himself to start with.
  • TR may not be nominated in 1904. The Democrats could take back the White House, presumably under Bryan but possibly under Parker.
  • World War I, if it even still happens, could be different
  • 1912 could be an open race.
 

WilyBadger

Wendell said:
A TL exists on this topic. That said, here are some of my thoughts:
  • TR likely won't seek a third term if he is even elected president himself to start with.
  • TR may not be nominated in 1904. The Democrats could take back the White House, presumably under Bryan but possibly under Parker.
  • World War I, if it even still happens, could be different
  • 1912 could be an open race.
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Whom is this Parker of which you speak?
I think it's inevitable that TR would end up as president at SOME point. Perhaps he wouldn't run in 1904, but might in 1908. That'd have him as president at the start of WWI. Could be interesting.
 

WilyBadger

Wendell said:
TR could also only be elected President for the first time in 1912...
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I don't know that I can see TR waiting that long. Up until 1908, maybe. But waiting until 1912? He always struck me as the impatient sort when it comes to that sort of thing. I suppose, though, if he had something really good to distract him... perhaps he could be ambassador to somewhere.
 

WilyBadger

Hawai'i Hiki No said:
Would there be anymore territorial expansion if McKinley was still president?
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How much actually happened during Roosevelt's administration, though, aside from Panama?
 

Wendell

WilyBadger said:
I don't know that I can see TR waiting that long. Up until 1908, maybe. But waiting until 1912? He always struck me as the impatient sort when it comes to that sort of thing. I suppose, though, if he had something really good to distract him... perhaps he could be ambassador to somewhere.
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If the Democrats nominate Bryan in 1904, and he wins that year, I think he can win reelection.
 

Gladi

WilyBadger said:
How much actually happened during Roosevelt's administration, though, aside from Panama?
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Bright day
Maybe Russo-Japanese War? You know the one for which TR got Nobel Peace Prize?
 
Glen

Glen

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Roosevelt is the wildcard in any such timeline.

VPs didn't win election to the Executive Mansion for a long period of time (Bush Sr. is the only one in modern times).

However, TR is a former governor of New York, and Governors do well in Presidential elections, and New York has a lot of electoral votes, making him a viable candidate.

TR would in some ways be a dark horse candidate, but one with a lot of viability. With his personality, I could see him sweeping the few primaries of the time, which would give him some more juice going in.

McKinley's presidency would have come off as a good one...if McKinley endorsed TR, I think he could win it in '04.

However, timelines without TR as president aren't unreasonable if the politics are explained.
 

Evil Opus

WilyBadger said:
How much actually happened during Roosevelt's administration, though, aside from Panama?
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Lots and lots of trust-busting. Roosevelt was a progressive, right to the very end.
 

WilyBadger

Gladi said:
Bright day
Maybe Russo-Japanese War? You know the one for which TR got Nobel Peace Prize?
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Yes, yes, I know that. I also know about the Trust Breaking and everything else. What I mean to say was how much IMPERIALISM happened during TR's administration. :)
 
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