Maximilian's legacy: Interwar and Post World War 2

Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: After 1900' started by George Myles Gibson, Jul 11, 2019.

  1. George Myles Gibson Don Jorge

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    Speaking of industry and waging a war in the long run it was clear to anyone with sanity that there was no way Argentina could've win a war with a more populous, industrious, and more advanced Mexico. It's like the Otl version of Japan and The United States, Japan in the long run couldn't win against the more industrial America, who could produce more ships and tanks.
     
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    You know, if the Allies sentenced Peron to death post war after the tribunal, it only incensed the Argentinians even further as his death made him one of the martyrs for Argentina nationalism right up there with General San Martin.

    He might have lost popular supports but his Peronism lived on, and Peron’s reign as dictator would be remebered widely as one of Argentine’s nostalgia for a better era of their history when they are the leading power of South American region, and his martyrdom basically further cemented those statements.
     
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    He'll probably live, he definitely won't be like Mosley who, if doesn't pull a Hitler, would have the noose around his neck for what he did to the Catholic population. For Stalin, it's definitely going to death for the countless purges, deaths during the five year plan, and the terror in the Baltics and Finland. Mussolini we already know how that's going to end, as for Petain it could possibly be like in OTL with him being sentence to house arrest. For Japan, it really depends, Tojo will basically be the same as for Hirohito, since there will be no Soviet Union and no threat of Communism it's really up to the United States to decide his fate, really I'm pretty sure they'll keep him to not risk a Japanese revolt and guerilla warfare.
     
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    Despite Mexico and Argentina being archenemy of one another on the American continent, i think that at the end of the day, Emperor Emilliano actually had a great respect for Peron mirroring his grandfather Emperor Maximilian and former Republican Benito Juarez in the Mexican Civil War. Even when Peron was the enemy leader, the Emperor himself praised the Fascist dictator on a personal level for his efficient economic reforms and his genuine sympathy towards the lower masses of Argentinian society as well as responsible for transforming Argentina into an industrial powerhouse in South America. Because of this I think that there is a chance that Peron will get a pardon and instead got sentenced to house arrest instead, the good words and influences of the Mexican Emperor in the Allied Tribunal would helped to spare Peron life.

    Additionally, it would be quite interesting for the two leaders of two opposing sides to meet each other in post war period, with the Mexican Emperor himself personally travelled to Argentina to pay respect to his former enemy as well as attending Peron funeral after his death.

    Peron too would likely to have liked the Mexican Emperor on a personal level to the point that he stated its such a pity the Mexican Emperor is on the opposing side, had he was on their side they would have been friends with one another. Peron praised the Emperor for his willing to implement further liberal reforms and universal suffrage to Mexico as well as improving the lives of the masses as well as the Emperor perserverance to solve the problem during the political crisis of Mexico at the time the two nations are at war with one another.
     
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    To me I think it would've been better if it was Japanese Emperor Hirohito and Emiliano meeting each other, because both these two countries were similar: in the beginning they were laughing stocks in the world stage and because of that they industrialized and waged wars for greatness and the results of that made them respected and great powers. If anything these two mirror opposites or like brothers who chosen different paths and that to me makes the Japanese Mexican enmity an interesting and tragic rivalry.
     
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    I was about to recommend that too actually, perhaps the best part about Post-War era is that Mexico finally reconcile with both Japan and Argentina, two of their biggest archenemies in WW2. The meeting between the two Emperors would also be quite interesting, Emperor Showa would have lamented the fact that he is now only a monarch in name and merely a symbollic figure compared to Emperor Emiliano.

    The Mexican Emperor too, would have had some sympathy toward the Japanese Emperor mostly because Hirohito reign was being used as justification for war by the more militaristic sects of the Japanese government, especially in regards to the war against Mexico.

    I think that if there is something the American and Mexican could agreed on the Japanese occupation then it would be that both of them will allow the Japanese Emperor to keep his position but reduced his political role into a symbolic one.
     
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    After the takeover of Mongolia and the start of the Great Purge, this gave the Poles enough time evacuate Warsaw of all the civilians, including Queen Isabel to Łódź while 123,000 Polish soldiers along with 5,000 MECEE (Mexican Expeditionary Corp in Eastern Europe) officers helping in the defense of Warsaw all led by General Edward Rydz-Śmigły, Marshall of Poland.

    Marshal_Rydz-Smigly_LOC_hec_27123.jpg Edward Rydz-Śmigły

    In the Soviet Red Army, chaos and confusion ensured; after the experiences the Soviet officer Corp had learned and gather from the failures and successes in the operations in the past and from that a new and experienced officer Corp had formed. All of that went to crap after the White Army take over of Mongolia and beginning of the Second Russian Civil War and because of this Stalin's paranoia went completely overboard and began a whole new wave of Purges that specifically targeted the Army. Anyone could "disappear" for any reasons from either serving the Russian army in the First Weltkrieg or didn't willingly joined the Red Army to not praising Stalin hard enough or for even a split second criticized the way the war was being handled. The NKVD, under Stalin's right hand Lavrentiy Beria, became a ever oppressive feeling of terror and inevitable death to the point soldiers were expected to fight to the death and not turn back.

    220px-Лаврентий_Берия,_1920-е_годы.jpg Lavrentiy Beria head of the NKVD

    In reality this had the opposite effect the now gutted officer Corp were now filled with inexperience, narcissistic, and sycophantic yesmen of Stalin who had no idea on how to lead troops and the terror resulted in a collapse of morale which led to mass desertions to either the Polish side or the New White Army. But also another thing the Red Army had to deal with the stretched objectives that Stalin kept giving the Red Army: At first the size of the Red Army heading to Warsaw was 250,000 but Stalin gave orders for 50,000 soldiers to head north and capture Wilno leaving 150,000 to go to Warsaw then he gave another order for another detachment to head south towards Lublin leaving only 120,000 soldiers to capture Warsaw.

    The Battle of Warsaw began of February 12, with Red forces commanded by Konstantin Rokossovsky attacking from the south in Modlin fortress held by general Władysław Sikorski with 31,000 soldiers defending for a total of four days before withdrawing from the immense pressure. The battered Polish army retreated southward in good fashion, this filled the Soviet army with unfounded confidence because little did they know their communications were completely unprotected and the Polish managed to listened in and decipher were the weak point of the Red Army was. On the 16 the Polish army under Rydz-Śmigły counterattacked from the south and in the Soviet weak point tearing them into while in the north the confused Red Army came under attack from a combined Polish/Mexican hussar and dragoon charged creating chaos and the inexperienced officer Corp completely panicked and called a retreat that soon devolved into a rout. Another massive blunder was that Stalin ordered all the heavy armour be sent to Ukraine to reconquer it, because of that, the light tanks sent to Warsaw were blown to smithereens by the Polish 7TPs and Mexican Oberschlesien tanks. By the 30 of February the Red Army completely retreated and the Polish Army counter attacked pushing the Red Army out of Lublin, which was being sieged, on the 5 of March, and on the 15 the Soviet completely abandoned Wilno.

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    General Władysław Sikorski vs General Konstantin Rokossovsky
    images (2).jpeg Polish Hussars
    images (1).jpeg images.jpeg Mexican Dragoons
    300px-Polish-soviet_war_1920_Aftermath_of_Battle_of_Warsaw.jpg Polish soldiers with captured Soviet standards

    The Miracle of the Vistula River crushed Stalin's dream of advancing to Berlin and instead confined him on the defensive against the Polish, Austrian, Ottoman, and Persian offensives while at the same time he was now fighting against a ever growing White guerilla army.
     
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    In Portugal, a different crisis was taking place: after the last Legitimate Braganza King, II, died childless in 1932 the title of King went to the mother of Manuel II, Amélie of Orleans, this created problem for succession and the Cortes decided to give the throne to Duarte Nuño, the Duke of Braganza and this settled the succession question until the end of the Brazilian Civil War.

    220px-Rainha_D._Amélia_-_MNC.jpg Queen Amelia of Portugal
    220px-Duarte_Nuno_de_Braganza.jpg Duarte Nuño de Braganza

    After the Brazilian House of Braganza Orleans fled Brazil, this at first didn't start a controversy until in 1941 when Queen Amelia issued a declaration stating that Pedro III would succeed her after she died.

    images (3).jpeg Pedro III of Braganza Orleans

    This created a major succession crisis because Duarte refused to accept this citing Pedro II's declaration that the portuguese Braganzas couldn't succeeded the Brazilian throne therefore the Brazilian Braganzas shouldn't receive the portuguese throne.

    Pedro III tried to reach a compromise by resending the declaration of succession but Duarte refused to accept this because the Brazilian Government had to vote for the Proclamation. Getting fed up with Duarte, Pedro began to questioned Duarte's legitimacy by saying that the Queen was forced to accept the decision of the Cortes without Amelia having a say in the issue and that he was always the one to succeed her.

    Both sides began to gather supporters and outside support; Pedro reached out to Mexico and Spain for ammunition and political support, both agreed and both gave their help as mediators, this terrified the portuguese people because not only was it because they still feared Mexico but were also terrified of a Spanish dominated monarchy.
    Meanwhile Duarte sought support from both the Kingdoms of France and Sardinia, both agreed and civil war was now becoming inevitable until a coup averted it.

    Antonio Oscar Camrona was before a Prime Minister during the reign of Manuel II but hated the constitutional monarchy and began to plot with Pedro, who after the Civil War, was also bitter of democracy and both planned to eliminate their biggest problem: Duarte. On the night of February 12, 1942 portuguese officers stormed Duarte's Palace and tortured, executed, and burned his body. The next day Camrona, Pedro, the army, and Orleanist supports stormed the Assembly of the Kingdom and forced the Prime Minister to resign at gunpoint and made him get on a plane bound to the United States. As for the Queen Amelia, she was forced to abdicate, give the throne to Pedro, and leave for Mexico. making Pedro III now Pedro V of Portugal.

    220px-ÓscarCarmona(official).jpg Antonio Oscar Camrona

    Camrona then declared the Estado Novo, making himself dictator, and declared Portugal's support to the Allies without entering the war and Mexico, Germany, and Austria began supporting them financially.​
     
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  9. lawrencenguyen Well-Known Member

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    A little typo mistakes here, its Manuel II not Miguel.
     
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  10. George Myles Gibson Don Jorge

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    This is just for filler and not about the main story, but I feel it's important to flesh out the Mexican relations with other European countries. If you like this, then tell me on which other country you would like to know their relationship with Mexico.

    Belgium-Mexico

    After the Franco Prussian War and the "Second Independence of Mexico" Mexico began a more budding relationship with Belgium, of course because the Empress of Mexico, Charlotte or Carlota, was the sister of Leopold II of Belgium. Leopold was firmly interested in the mineral wealth of Mexico and spent a large amount of Francs in modernizing and industrializing Mexico but was always constrained by her brother-in-law, Emperor Maximilian, on working conditions and how much he could extract from the Mexican mines and this couldn't produce the money Leopold wanted so he decided to look elsewhere.

    leopold-ii-of-belgium-1.jpg Leopold II brother of Empress Carlota

    With help of the Welsh explorer Henry Morton Stanley and the ex Mexican General Leonardo Marquez the two travelled through the Congo River and began making contact with the natives and either intimated them through force or illusions, such as Marquez telling them stories of the Aztec gods and terrifying them by making them think that he was Huitzilopochtli, the Aztec gods of war and human sacrifice, to signed contracts which effectively made the Congo a personal colony of Leopold II (although it was supposed to be in personal union with Belgium).

    Henry_Morton_Stanley_1.jpg 220px-Leonardo_marquez.png Henry Morton Stanley and Leonardo Marquez

    Leopold presented the Congo Free State as a western civilization mission to the other European countries to protect the natives from slavery, in reality it was Leopold's person gold mine in which he used the African natives as slave labor to harvest rubber from vines.

    1280px-LocationCongoFreeState.png the Congo Free State

    For Mexican involvement in the colony it was immense other than Marquez (who would become the administrator of Stanleyville and for his services Leonardoville, modern day Bukavu, was named after him) Mexican mercenaries veterans of the Mexican Civil War were hired for the Force Publiqué and generals such as Porfirio Díaz's best friend Manuel González Flores were used as officials in the Free State.

    images.jpeg Manuel González administrator of Elizabethville

    Emperor and Empress Maximilian and Carlota had no idea this was happening, just as everyone else, and truly believed this was a Catholic mission to spread the faith and because of that the Mexican Colonial Society, the organization that would lay the bedrock of Mexican colonialism, was formed.
    However word finally spread from reporters, ex mercenaries, and priests of the atrocities that were happening in the Congo and investigations finally revealed the extent of the crimes committed by Leopold and the Force Publiqué.

    The international world condemn Leopold, including his sister and brother in law, however Mexican atrocities were quietly swept under the rug by Prime Minister Felix Zuloaga to not tarnish the image of Marquez, the soldier mercenaries, and the involvement of Mexicans in the Force Publiqué.

    After the debacle, Emperor Maximilian was seriously considering disbanding the Colonial Society until Zuloaga stopped him and made him reconsider the possibilities of a Mexican colonial empire and promised him that it wouldn't be like another Congo. Maximilian agreed and left the Colonial Society intact, which would go on to found Mexico's first colony in Somaliland.

    After the Congo episode and the Belgian Government acquisition of the Congo, Mexican Belgian affairs were mute other than the Belgian investments and funding in the mines in Mexico. That would change in 1890 after Crown Prince Agustín married Stephanie of Belgium bring the ties between the two countries together to the point that Agustín threatened to abandon the Quadruple Alliance if Belgian neutrality was broken.

    During the Weltkrieg Belgium was neutral until France and Britain invaded beginning the "Rape of Belgium" unfortunately Mexico was tied down in multiple fronts to help Belgium and it was up to Germany to save Belgium. After the war Belgium gained Dunkirk, Lille, and Rocroi but was in massive need of repairs so Mexico helped as much as it can during the Interwar years until the Second Weltkrieg started in which Belgium, who just recovered from the first, was now being invaded and occupied by French forces and annexed into France. King Albert and the royal family fled to his niece's, Stephanie the Empress Dowager, country along with thousands of Belgians and Dutch from neighboring Netherlands.

    images (1).jpeg King Albert​
     
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    The Battle of Imphal raged from June to December and the fighting was hellish to say the least, from attacking Japanese either being mowed down by machine guns or blown to pieces by artillery, or on the other side attacking Germans, Mexicans, and Indians facing absolute resistance from Japanese who would rather die than give a inch of ground to the Allies.
    So the Battle stayed this way for five months, a slugfest, until a Commonwealth force of 55,000 Canadians and ANZACS arrived to help turn the tide against the Japanese.

    On December 10, a massive Allied offensive was to be taken in a effort to end the Battle by Christmas for a morale boost. The plan was for the Commonwealth troops to attack from Kohima in Nagaland, while the Mexican and South African troops attack from the East in Imphal and the Germans and Indians from the middle.

    The Battle began at 13:18 on December 15 with a barrage of artillery lasting from the 15 to 16 after the storm, Canadian bombers made sure to flatten any attempts of the Japanese to retreat back to Burma. On the 17 the attack began with a wave of Commonwealth troops attacking Kohima and the Japanese, who even though they were malnourished from the lack of food coming from Burma and demoralized from both the arrival of Allied reinforcements and from barrages and bombings, still put up a resistance until allied troops broke through their defenses and began to overwhelm them with their Otter light armoured car and US light M3 Stuart tank, given to Canada because of US lend lease. The Japanese general, Kotoku Soto, had no choice but to issue a retreat, but the bombing behind them essentially destroyed any roads, bridges, and supply lines so they had to trudge through multiple jungles and rivers to get back to Burma

    300px-IND_003698_Garrison_Hill_Kohima.jpg Battle of Kohima
    Otter_Light_AC.jpg Canadian Otter

    Meanwhile the two other Allied attacks were going badly, the barrage failed to destroy a majority of the Japanese pillboxes and by now they have become in-depth at defense, mixed that in with fanatical suicidal resistance and this was recipe for disaster. At first, the attack was carried out clumsily with the Mexican/South African attack being 10 minutes late while the German/Indian attack was to early and this went unsupported and they were forced to withdraw with heavily losses. The second go was much more successful in breaching the Japanese defenses, with them running low on ammunition and by now they learned of Soto's retreat and this broke morale. After a few more hours of fighting, the order was given and they began to retreated.

    This is where the main problems began: with such as large force going through jungles and rivers this created a bottleneck which forced them to abandon artillery, tanks, and more siege equipment to just get through. After two weeks of exhausting marching the Japanese made it back to Burma, demoralized with the crushing defeat, while the Allied forces began celebrating their triumph and with that the Battle of Imphal and Kohima also known as "The Asian Verdun" was over and the Japanese had to cancel their invasion of India.
     
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    After the defeat in India and the retreat to Burma the Japanese war Government decided to hold on the defensive while going on the offensive in China against both the Kuomintang and the Beiyang government.
    Fast forward to March 13 the Kuomintang hace been pushed further and further into inner China all the way to Wuhan, Generalissimo Kai Shek, in a effort to stall the Japanese, order to break the Yellow River dykes to flood and the Japanese, however it proved useless because even though it killed a unknown number of Japanese it didn't stopped them from advancing to Wuhan.

    480px-Yellow_River_Flooded_Area_1938.svg.png Yellow River Flood in 1942

    As for the Beiyang government and Army they were busy trying take back Shanghai while at the same time fighting off Japanese Skirmishers at Peking. Behind the scenes, General and President Zhoulin met in Mexico City with Prime Minister Cárdenas for more Mexican help to take the pressure off them, Cárdenas told him that their hands were tied, right now Mexicans were fighting in Italy, Spain, India, and at the same time the Marina Imperial was busy patrolling the Mediterranean, the Argentinian-Brazillian Coast, the Pacific ocean, and the North Atlantic ocean. With no other choice Zhoulin sent a message to Kai Shek to form a United Front against the Japanese, Kai Shek, though reluctant, agreed and the two began to plan to defend Wuhan.

    As for Prime Minister Tojo he had had enough with the United States, before discussions about invading the Philippines were just spitballing until now Tojo was ordering his generals to draw up plans for a invasion of the Philippines.​
     
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    August 1942, Japan and Argentina both conducted their invasions of both the Philippines and Falklands, in the Philippines, US General Douglas MacArthur and his troops were caught off guard and were retreating and began digging their feet in Manilla with tanks and outdated aircrafts waiting for the Japanese.
    On paper the US army outnumbered the Japanese with 151,000 US and Filipino soldiers and 108 tanks compared to the enemy 129,500 and 90 tanks, however the US forces were comprised of experienced and inexperienced soldiers, national guards, and Filipino constabulary policeman compared to the battle tested and experienced Japanese soldiers, veterans of the Indochina, Indonesian, and Malaya campaigns.
    The final nail in the coffin was the superiority in airplanes the Japanese had: 541 Zeros and bombers to the US 277 planes.

    220px-MacArthur_Manila.jpg Gen. Douglas MacArthur
    300px-Ww2_131.jpg The beginning of the invasion

    The Japanese attacked from both North at Luzon and Bataan while also, later on, from the south from Indonesia,l. The lightening attack took the US soldiers by surprised, made worst with enemy planes wiping out the American planes.
    The first battle in the invasion was the Battle of Bataan on August 7, in which Gen. MacArthur was defending Bataan and Manilla Bay in a fighting retreat and despite being outnumbered, outgunned, and unsupported the American and Filipino soldiers managed to delay the Japanese invasion for a astounding three months but it finally came to an end on November 2, when the Japanese from Indonesia invaded, capturing the southern Islands. The battle was lost and MacArthur decided to retreat to Manilla were he was determined to make his last stand.

    Philippine_Islands_Jap_tanks_full.gif Japanese tank column on the move.

    The United States of America was absolutely outraged and decided that being isolated was no longer a option: on August 15, President Franklin Roosevelt asked Congress for a declaration of war against the Empire of Japan, Congress voted unanimously and now the United States was at war against Japan. Immediately National France, the Union of Britain, and the Soviet Union declared war on the United States, bringing her into the wider side of the Weltkrieg.
    The Allies, especially Mexico, accepted the United States with opened arms with Prime Minister Cárdenas being the first Mexican leader to visit the White House and meet with the President. Both agreed that Europe was first and after all of the Axis powers in Europe were defeated, then they can focus on the Soviet Union and Japan.

    franklin-roosevelt-9463381-1-raw.jpg President Roosevelt

    Immediately a general mobilization was called and plans were being drawn up to help The Danubian Empire, Kingdom of the Two Sicilies, the MEF, and the Ottoman Empire against the Kingdom of Sardinia and Greece the two of which were as described by Prime Minister Winston Churchill as "The weak underbelly of the Axis."

    sam.jpeg Uncle Sam

    In Argentina, the surviving Destroyers, cruisers, and light cruisers launched Operación San Martín: the invasion of the Falklands. The Argentine force was formidable; it included 30,000 soldiers, 20 Nahuel tanks, and 14 bombers all under command of Lieutenant General Eduardo Lonardi. The Canadian forces on the Falklands were not standing idly by, they were warned in advanced by the Marina Imperial but Rule Britannia was no more and the Commonwealth Navy was stretched to the absolute limit, with one half helping the Allies in India and the other half patrolling the northern Atlantic to make sure the Union of Britain Navy didn't make a break out, so they were only able to send two Battleships: HMS Nelson and Rodney as protection against any Argentine fleet along with a additional 5,000 Commonwealth troops.

    GralEduardoLonardi.jpg Gen. Eduardo Lonardi

    The_Argentina_soldiers_in_1938.jpg Argentine soldiers (note the helmets)

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    Nelson and Rodney

    The Argentine Navy was in a not bad, but still in a sordid state: after major repairs that took the duration of June and July the Belgrano was fully repaired, pre-battle of Buenos Aires, and was upgraded with a 200 mm main gun and major construction was also made on the remaining destroyers and cruisers and after months and planning the operation was carried out and the plan was to land in Stanley and proceed forward from the East to the Western half of the islands. Operación San Martín began on August 7 with the Argentine Armada completely bypassing the Commonwealth Battleships, who were stationed on the Western half in the Weddell settlement were they assumed the Argentines would attack. They were wrong.

    The Argentine attack commenced at 9:00 a.m. when the Belgrano fired onto the harbor and the smaller ships began landing troops and tanks, while the ANZAC forces were being pinned down by the shells coming down on them. By 9:30 the full Argentine force were on the port and were fighting their way towards the city, realizing they were completely outnumbered and outgunned General Claude Auchinleck, decided it was better to retreat to Goose Green than be annihilated in a war of attrition.

    images.jpeg Claude "The Auk" Auchinleck

    The Argentine forces captured the city and declared that the reconquista of the Malvinas was nearly complete. However two days later, a major wrench was thrown at the gears: On August 11 the Belgrano was on a patrol along with two destroyers at the Choiseul Sound passage where they encountered the Nelson and Rodney.
    The Battle of Choiseul Sound began with duel between Nelson and Belgrano while the Rodney took on the destroyers. Immediately it became clear on who had the advantage; even with the upgrades Belgrano neither had guns nor armour to inflict any damage on Nelson and nor could she take the absolute pounding the Nelson was dealing her and after 20 minutes Belgrano raised the white flag surrendering while the two destroyers were absolutely thrashed by Rodney with one seriously damaged and the other sinking. The battle slowed the invasion to a halt and immediately Argentina began looking towards Chile for ships to go toe to toe with the Commonwealth.

    Meanwhile in the Balkans...​
     
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    For a long time the Second Serbo Bulgarian War had stagnated, for the two powers were equally powerful, however Bulgaria was focused on three fronts: The Serbian, the Greek, and keeping the Ottomans afloat. If it was wasn't for the other fronts Bulgaria could've easily crush Serbia. Tsar Boris wanted to achieve a breakthrough to finally kick the Serbians out of Macedonia and take Belgrade so to focus on the Greeks and end this war before Soviet Russia smells blood in the water, so he contacted the Austrians for assistance in a Northern invasion, Kaiser Franz Ferdinand was reluctant because he was focused more on Russia and Sardinia and really was not so keen on invading Serbia because he was afraid of angering the southern Slavs into a revolt. All Kaiser Franz could do was give weapons.

    220px-Boris_III_of_Bulgaria.jpg Boris III

    That changed after the US declaration of war and this sent the Kingdom of Sardinia into a panic and in desperation Mussolini ordered a attack on both the Piave and Two Sicilies, the Operation dubbed Actium, was to finally push into both Venice and Abruzzo and regain the offensive and to also dissuade the US from going to Europe first, giving them time to recapture lost ground. On September 12, Operation Actium began and this shocked the Austrians, who were more occupied with the Soviets and left the Italian front dangerously undefended and General Balbo was able to exploit this and the Austrians were pushed all the way to the gates of the Venice, beginning the Siege of Venice.

    Meanwhile the Sicilians had better luck against the Sardinians, because it was the only front they were focused on and with the help of MEF, they were able to hold their ground in the face of Sardinian troops and French tanks. General Giovanni Messe, overall commander of the Royal Sicilian Army, counter attacked on October 2 pushing the Sardinians all the way to the Holy City in Rome and because of that, the two sides awkwardly arranged a cease fire to not damage the Vatican or hurt his holiness, ending the offensive in the south but in Venice the siege continued.

    220px-Giovanni_Messe.jpg General Messe

    With the US declaration of war and the Europe first policy this allowed the Austrians to relocate troops to finally help the Bulgarian troops. On November 2, Kaiser Franz issued a ultimatum to Belgrade to cease all hostilities with Bulgaria and make a peace ante bellum. King Alexander rebuked the Kaiser and told him in the most strongest language to mind Austria's affairs and stop butting into Serbia's and made a off hand remark on how all the Habsburgs are incestuous children and are no better than the Soviets. Kaiser Franz took absolute offensive to this and began to order a army to move towards the Serbian border to strong-arm them into peace settlement and even went to negotiations with the King of Albania, Zog I, to invade Serbia and in reward: Kosovo. Zog agreed and began to mobilize as many troops as possible.
    Again, the Kaiser gave a final ultimatum to stop all hostilities and again the Serbian answered with a no and a harsh insult. So with no other choice the Austrian empire declared war on the Kingdom of Serbia.

    220px-King_Zog_I.jpg Zog I of Albania​
     
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    Sadly for the monarchy to be restored, Vargas had to go.

    Vargas and Salazar (the portuguese dictator), both were republicans that respected the monarchy, think of Romania today. They had a very great respect for their role and their symbols, Vargas is who restored the presence of the Imperial dragoons and the imperial infantry as the brazilian cerimonial guard, but he was a adamant republican... Unless this PoD results on a "Vargas Who" scenario, with a different personality of him.

    For a restored imperial Brazil, the best options for PMs are Arlindo Viega (leader of the monarchists at the time), Plínio Salgado (leader of the integralists) or some lesser known conservative figure.
     
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    What going on in Russia red vs white war?
     
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  17. George Myles Gibson Don Jorge

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    In Russia, the Red Army was deteriorating fast, after the defeats in Poland and the Great Purge, morale was destroyed and the Soviet Union was back on the defensive against the Allies, as for the White Army, they separated into smaller guerilla bands, either taking small communal farms and freeing/recruiting peasants or liberating gulags. Their most greatest success was them blowing up bridges on the Trans Siberian railway costing the Soviets time to send resupplys and reinforcements to Siberia.
    By the dawn of September the White Army had grown to 200,000 soldiers, most of them Soviet conscripts and kulaks joining to oppose Stalin. Stalin was furious at the situation in the east and decided to send in Zhukov to finally crush the rebellion and to again regain the initiative in Europe, however out of blind luck for the Whites or just plain bad luck for Stalin, the Ottomans under Mustafa Pasha launched Operation Sulieman the Magnificent on 19 of September regaining Georgia and pushing into Chechnya and this led to revolts by the Chechen people, who were tired of the Stalinist repression.

    The Ottoman army, during the Miracle of the Vistula and the Russian Civil War, were committed to reforms headed by Mustafa Kemal to reform the army and instead of following the German military way the Turks decided to follow the Japanese and Mexican way of merit and end nepotism. This faced push back from the old Ottoman elite such as the Three Pashas however they were increasingly sidelined by Mustafa and his second in command: Ismet Bey. By September, the Ottomans had reformed and reorganized, and were now ready, the Persian allies were on the other hand continually degrading.

    download.jpeg Mustafa Kemal Pasha
    220px-PM_Ismet_Inonu.jpg Ismet Bey

    After the overthrow of the Qajar dynasty and the establishment of Pahlavi dynasty, a new age of modernity and reforms took place in, however the Army was left in a decrepit state, so to try and rectify this, Shah Reza Pahlavi had Turkish and German officers train and had Mexicans armed the new Persian Army, however this was interrupted by the start of the Second Weltkrieg and this left half of the Persian army modernized and well armed while the other half was barely trained and poorly armed conscripts with no idea on organization. This situation was increased ten fold after the defeat by the Soviet Union at Jvari, where they lost most of their trained NCOs and equipment, so they had to take a longer hiatus to try and rebuild their army, with the help of German attache Fedor von Bock to train the Persian Army.

    190px-RezaShahBozorg1.jpg Reza Shah
    images.jpeg Fedor von Bock

    The change of events in the Caucasus forced Stalin to redeploy Soviet divisions led by Zhukov to stop the Ottoman advance and to finally push into Kars and provoke a Armenian uprising. On October 8, the Red Army 35 Division had managed to push the Ottomans back to Georgia and Mustafa decided to hold his ground and defend Tbilisi and the Second Battle of Tbilisi started.
    Both sides were equally matched with 250,000 soldiers, while the Soviets had the upper hand in armour, the Ottomans had more artillery and anti tank weapons to deal the Soviets heavy losses. The battle was a slugfest with house to house fighting, initially Zhukov tried to surround the Turks by the flanks by sending in the tanks, however Mustafa countered this by having the artillery strategically positioned on top of hills, giving them the advantage of clear fire. By the 15 of October, the flanking maneuver resulted in heavy losses and no gains, so Zhukov called off the attack meanwhile Ismet Bey counterattacked on the 20 at the center, pushing the Soviets far out of the city to the point, that they were in the outskirts. Again Zhukov decided to push for a flanking maneuver, on the 5 of November Soviet tanks came forward and this time the Ottomans were being overwhelmed to the point that Mustafa was considering a retreat but fate dealt it's cruel hand: on November 17, Stalin ordered Zhukov to call of the attack and withdraw to Grozny to put down Chechen revolts.

    Zhukov was outraged at this order and even considered disobeying it, however decided to not go through with it and withdrew from Georgia.
    The Ottomans won a victory, and while it was a pyrrhic victory, it was still victory.​
     
  18. George Myles Gibson Don Jorge

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    Back in August 25, Operation Sedan began with a feint attack into Alsace Lorraine and as expected the French defended both tooth and nail for the city of Straßburg to the better end. The French forces numbered around 500,000 men defending the border against a German army of a meagre 150,000. The majority of the French forces in Alsace Lorraine were soldiers pulled from the Italian front (this would have dire consequences for the Sardinians during their operation in September), however the attack was clearly meant to be a diversion to pull in French forces and the bad news was Petain didn't even realized it. Charles de Gaulle, Supreme Commander, on the other hand knew this was a trick and correctly guessed that the real attack would be in the low countries but Petain dismissed his opinions and sent him to the Alsace front while he managed the Danish Front.

    In Denmark, the Danish resistance joined the German army in harassing the British forces numbering around 150,000 soldiers by blowing bridges, railways, and communication lines making them a serious pain in the ass to deal with. Mosley had a solution to this: he ordered the round up of all the Danish women and children into concentration camps in North Jutland similar to what the British did in the Second Boer War to break the rebel's fighting spirit. The camps were very much the same: no food, water, or sanitary conditions making it very easy for a typhus, typhoid, or smallpox outbreak to break out and completely decimate a entire camp population. But than again they were the lucky ones; the Catholic population in Denmark, which was already small to begin with, were being targeted by the BUF secret police and rounded up to be sent to work camps were they were beaten and forced to work in munition factories, those who didn't work were executed.
    Nonetheless the German army was making headway into Denmark, capturing Vejle, thereby cutting the British from any communication and supplies from and to Copenhagen. Seeing the British setbacks, Petain decided to send a total of three divisions totaling 120,000 soldiers to help but this continually drained the French manpool to the point that Petain had recruit Algerian soldiers.

    (The war in the North Africa was more of a slideshow; Mexican and Spanish Arab and Berber troops were to few to try and invade Algeria or any other French colony such as Mali or Tunisia, although the Ottomans did accomplish it, through Libya in October 8 1940-January 5 1942 before they decided to withdraw back to Libya because if their stretched supply lines, and the Mexican and Spanish troops available were sent to other fronts because of the lack of manpower in their mother countries or they didn't want to start another insurrection: Third Mexican Arab war in Mexico case while a Second Rif War in Spain's case.)

    The decision to use African troops in Europe was meet with disgust by the French High command but was necessary to solve the manpower shortage. The African troops were met with racism and bigotry by their superiors and officers to the point that many either mutinied, which were always ruthlessly put down, or defect to the Mexican, Spanish, or German side when given the chance.

    The French High command were however in the middle of panic mode because even though they were in the middle of a German attack, they were absolutely terrified of a American invasion and so tried to take measures in trying to defend their Homeland: the Atlantic Wall was created to defeat any attempt of a Allied invasion and was so perfectly planned it could withstand any attempt. Right?​
     
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    The final months of 1942 were coming and by October a lull had sent in; with the stalemate in Europe and Asia holding, the United States was still in the middle of mobilization and training soldiers. It was just a matter of time before the US fully enters the war.

    But everything was not quiet, in Mexico the Skoda & Mondragón company completed their first tank: the medium Quetzalcoatl Tank with a 50 cm tank gun similar to the German Panzer III gun, but with a tank body more similar to the Canadian Mark II tank. The Quetzalcoatl tank passed through test runs and the Army immediately placed orders for it, this placed a major strained on the industry and on labor, so to mitigate this the Chamber ordered more factories built in South Africa and in Guiana while at the same hiring the refugees coming from Europe to work in the factories in Mexico while in South Africa they used the Africans there to work in the factories or they'll be sent to the war.

    5-cm-KwK_39_L-60_Munster.jpg Tank turret of the Quetzalcoatl tank

    The Commonwealth was also feeling the strain of fighting in multiple fronts so Prime Minister Winston Churchill told Admiral Mountbatten to leave the Pacific Front to the German-Mexican force and instead focus on the Falklands.
    The Commonwealth Navy after the revolution and split was a shadow of it's former glory but compared to the navies of South America made the Commonwealth Navy a force to be reckoned with; They had 10 Battleships after the revolution and during the Interwar years, since the Treaty of Berlin no longer applied to them they built about 5 new Battleships including three aircraft carriers: HMS Ark Royal, Hermes, and Eagle these ships were to be the new pride of the Navy including the crown jewel: HMS Hood other than the Battleships and Aircraft carriers, the Navy had a small number of cruisers and destroyers so the Admiralty had to be extremely picky on which battles they had to participate in.
    The Argentine Navy on the other hand... Before the war, they could actually go toe to toe with either the Mexican or Canadian navies but after the attack on Rio de la Plata the Navy was a shadow of it's former self and so the Argentines had to order Battleships from Chile, and from Chile, because before the war Chile was on good terms with Mexico and bought exactly five Battleships from them: Cuauhtemoc, Guerrero, Iturbide, Morelos, and Allende they were then converted into super Battleships with the names O'Higgins, Almirante Latorre, Aldea, Chacabuco, and Almirante Simpson. Argentina wanted to buy all of them but Chile refused for the reasons:
    1. They didn't want to put at risk their relationship with Mexico, even though they were fascist.
    2. They knew Argentina was going to lose the war and so were scared they wouldn't be able to pay for the ships.
    3. Selling them all of their ships would put them at risk from neighboring Peru and Bolivia.
    General Peron was furious at Chile's refusal and decided to cut relations with them and instead look at Brazil to buy their ships, which would turn out to be a bad idea.

    Christmas Eve came by and it was now the fifth year since the war started, 1943.​
     
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  20. George Myles Gibson Don Jorge

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    1943 started off with a bang when the French Army rebuffed the German attack in Alsace and decided to push into Germany and they managed to capture the Bavarian part of the Rhenish Palatinate, a part of the Kingdom of Bavaria, a blow to Bavaria and Mexico, I'll explain.

    250px-German_Empire_-_Bavaria_(1871).svg.png Kingdom of Bavaria, the red spot is the Rhenish Palatinate

    Now it's time to talk about what have the other family members of the Iturbide-Habsburg family been up to: As you all remember Emperor Agustín II had a cousin, Salvador, who abdicated in his cousin's favor and left for Vienna. Well he had a daughter, Maria Josepha de Iturbide-Habsburg with a Hungarian countess: Gizella Terezia Mikos de Tarrodháza, and while her father abdicated they were allowed to keep their title of Prince or Princess of Iturbide-Habsburg. In the meantime in Bavaria, on October 21, 1921 King Ludwig III passed away and his son, Rupprecht, succeeded him as Rupprecht I of Bavaria and in the next month, Maria Josepha moved into Munich and as royalty she was allowed to attend balls and galas. On the night of November 4, 1921 at a ball in the Herrenchiemsee Palace, held in honor for the late King Ludwig II, the two meet and they got along; Rupprecht enjoyed her company (especially since his first wife, Marie Gabrielle, had died back in 1912) and Maria Josepha enjoyed the Bavarian countryside. They became companions for two years and this peaked the interest of the Mexican press, which was surprising considering the fact that many in Mexico and even the Imperial family had either ignored or didn't even realized she existed. The two continued their relationship even though the Bavarian Government were opposed to the relationship and wanted Rupprecht to marry Antonia, Princess of Luxembourg, because even though María Josepha was a Princess, technically, she wasn't recognized officially by the Imperial family.
    The solution to the problem was for the family, still headed by Agustín II, to recognize her right to the throne. So Rupprecht sent a message to Agustín asking him to make Maria Josepha a member of the Mexican Imperial family and even regent in the event he dies and his son, Emiliano, was incapable of ruling. Agustín at first put up a resistance to the request because he considered Maria Josepha as unroyal and took his cousin's abdication as a complete rejection by his whole family not to mention he already decided that his wife, Empress Stephanie would become regent. He stayed like this until a combination of convincing from Prime Minister Zapata, Kaiser Franz Ferdinand, and even Kaiser Wilhelm II forced him to sign a Anuncio, declaring that 1. Maria Josepha was now officially part of the Imperial family and 2. In the event of him dying and his son not be able to rule, then Maria Josepha and Rupprecht would be allowed by the Chamber and Cortes to be regents and thereby creating a Personal Union between the Kingdom of Bavaria and The Second Mexican Empire. However Agustín was not actually going to abide by this and actually signed a secret deal with the Cortes that in the likely hood that he does pass then the regency would pass to the Empress. So with Maria Josepha declared a legitimate princess, Rupprecht proposed to her and she accepted, the two married at Regensburg Cathedral, thereby creating the Cadet branch of Wittlesbach-Iturbide.

    220px-María_Josefa_Sofía_de_Iturbide_y_Mikos.jpg Maria Josepha of Bavaria
    220px-Rupprecht_von_Bayern.jpg Rupprecht I

    The marriage was peaceful and happy, until a major crisis broke out between the Kingdom of Bavaria and The Second Mexican Empire: in March 3, 1926, Emperor Agustín II passed away and many in Mexico expected a Bavarian regency, including Rupprecht who made plans to go to Mexico City to be declared regent by the Chamber and Cortes, however the Cortes declared that Stephanie was regent. This outraged both the King and Queen who both insisted that the Imperial family had to honor the agreement, it even gotten to the point that Kaiser Wilhelm II intervened on the Bavarians behalf however Empress Dowager Stephanie was unbending and continued to hold the title.
    The Chamber wanted to end the crisis because they didn't want to damage Mexico's relationship with Germany so they convened a council in Munich between Prime Minister Zapata and the Bavarian Minister President Otto Ritter von Dandl. For ten days they debated and argued until on May 16, 1926 they came to a agreement that for regent; Empress Dowager Stephanie alongside Zapata would be co-regents for the Crown Prince, while Rupprecht and Maria Josepha would be given the title of Duke and Duchess of La Huasteca.

    220px-Otto_von_Dandl.jpg Minister President Otto Ritter von Dandl
    300px-Región_Huasteca.png Duchy of La Huasteca
    PicsArt_08-15-10.09.51.png Flag of the Duchy of La Huasteca

    The system was complicated to say the least; While La Huasteca was still part of Mexico and was under the rule of the Emperor and subject to the laws of Mexico, Rupprecht and Maria Josepha were now the heads of state and La Huasteca was now theoretically a part of the Kingdom of Bavaria until Maria Josepha or her children dies which will then revert back to Mexico.

    This satisfied both parties, except the Kingdom of Prussia because now this gave Bavaria a population boost and a access to the sea and even a Navy, Reichskanzler Friedrich Ebert tried to, no avail, to delayed and even derail the convention but now the Kingdom of Bavaria was now a equal to Prussia.

    This ended the succession crisis and also created a pseudo feudal relationship between Mexico and Bavaria and when the Second Weltkrieg erupted, while the majority of Mexicans fought for the Emperor and Empire of Mexico, there were some who fought for Maria Josepha and for Bavaria, example: Das Gewehrabteilungs von La Huasteca or The Rifle divisions of La Huasteca which numbered around a modest 30-40,000 soldiers out of a population of 1,620,000 people. This regiment was the only Mexican force to serve in Germany where they served with distinction.

    This is were we finally picked up to the present were the regiment fought valiantly against the French onslaught in the Rhenish Palatinate but they were overwhelmed and out of two divisions; only one came out intact: the worst destruction of a division in Mexican military history. The lost of the Palatinate caused Rupprecht to call on the Duchy of La Huasteca to send another two Divisions, this would be detrimental to the Mexican war effort because many of those men were factory workers or ship builders so the call was seen by the Emperor and Government as unnecessary and a burden when Mexico was fighting against Japan. But nonetheless the call was met and a new Gewehrabteilung was sent by the Battleships in Mexico SMS Schwanenkönig and Ludwig I.

    But it was going to take a miracle to stop the renewed French advance into Germany.​
     
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