Massively Multiplayer: Gaming In The New Millennium
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I think she might make a better Mary Jane Watson in a future Spider-Man film.
It would have to be a pretty badass version Mary Jane....like make her Spider-Woman level badass.
I think she'd be a better choice for Faye Valentine in a live-action Cowboy Bebop movie.
The same would be WI: Flight 11 and 175 did have the cockpit door lock system(or as people would say the terrorist win the anti-lotery), wonder if poster would be wonder if Magic and larry would have stopen their captors or die trying.
Thanks for all the comment and reactions, besides that, comparasion how your ATL self would have reacted to this? Mine would be as OTL Shocked how bizarre was, just a teacher asked for CNN and we got the news in real time(we we're watching a documentary in Animal Planet that day), some other OTL-ITTL ot the 911?
And here it is, the update we've all been dreading. It seems that TTL's version of 9/11 was even more terrible, despite the best efforts of the Gore Administration. As is, it seems that there will be less of the "9/11 was an inside job!" nonsense, considering the cockpit door lock system was supposed to be installed and Al would have far less reason to be behind such a thing. What I wonder is what the aftermath will be. Obviously, the courage of the firefighters and police officers will stay mostly the same, but will Osama Bin Laden be taken out earlier? What will the rest of the War on Terror look like? As for my reaction, given that I was a young child at the time trying to watch cartoons when it happened OTL...I assume my reaction would be the same confused fear in TTL. Perhaps even more so.
That ain't stopping the 9/11 truthers, PunMaster, especially Alex Jones; many of them would probably say it was a conspiracy no matter who was in office.
Since more of the hijackers are alive to be interviewed (IMO, the Gore administration would be less likely to use torture than the Bush administration), the truth movement will be lessened, especially since only two of the planes succeeded and the other two weren't destroyed...
Is Barbara Olson still on Flight 77, RySenkari, or was she butterflied off it?
Since more of the hijackers are alive to be interviewed (IMO, the Gore administration would be less likely to use torture than the Bush administration), the truth movement will be lessened, especially since only two of the planes succeeded and the other two weren't destroyed...
Is Barbara Olson still on Flight 77, RySenkari, or was she butterflied off it?
United 175 hit about the same way it did IOTL. However, it DID take out all three staircases, and with less time between the first plane and the second, it would have trapped significantly more people. And you're correct about Flight 11, it hit a few floors lower which means hundreds more people would be killed in the collapse of the building. However, there is a tiny saving grace: people at Windows of the World were able to find a maintenance worker who had a bolt cutter for the chain sealing the roof door shut. It's thought by some that there was too much smoke and fire to attempt roof rescues on 9/11. In actuality, helicopter crews were ready and willing to attempt rooftop rescues, but no one could actually get up to the roof. ITTL, the roof is opened and there are some rescues made. Obviously not nearly enough, but we end up with about 30-50 people airlifted off the roof, most of them from Windows on the World.
The device used to seal the cockpit doors on America 77 is the same as the one they use to do so today. ITTL, Gore's instructions to the FAA started the process of having them installed, but unfortunately only a small fraction of planes would have had them by the time 9/11 rolled around.
And Gore actually didn't address the nation formally, only the people at the clean coal facility. However, there ARE cameras present and his speech is played on the news networks a few minutes after it's given.
Very few alt-history 9/11 scenarios have a sort of "inbetween", either it's totally averted or it turns into something way worse. So I was going for something a bit unique and something with a few twists and turns here and there.
Butterflies put more people on that flight. Honestly, butterflies PROBABLY would have changed some of the flights themselves, but I took a bit of liberty and kept them all the same. Some of the hijackers are different. Atta is the same but a few of the others are different. This may become important later on. I wouldn't say that hitting lower doubled the death toll but it does increase. Initially we were planning to DECREASE the death toll a bit, but as I was trying to figure out how to proceed with the post I decided to go with an event that would be worse in one way but not quite as bad in another way.
Rudy's fate will be addressed in Part 2.
And absolutely, the speculation begins immediately on where Flights 77 and 93 might have ended up had the attacks not been foiled. More on that in Part 2 as well.
Considering that Gore had been part of an administration that had dealt with Bin Laden before, there'd obviously be more continuity and thus he might be more wary of Bin Laden before the fact. Of course, that might make the public hold him more accountable, putting him under more pressure to get Bin Laden earlier on. We'll see.
Some celebrity reactions are definitely planned for Part 2. I will say that one of the GameTV hosts had a close relative who witnessed the attacks, we'll hear from them in Part 2 as well.
Absolutely Bird and Magic will be heavily remembered in 2001-02. Black armbands all around. The Pacers (who Bird was still coaching ITTL) will be particularly affected.
Addressed in Part 2.
Correct, a worse death toll despite two of the attacks being thwarted. The War on Terror will be partially addressed in Part 2, though it'll continue in news updates later on.
The truther movement is nonexistent ITTL. With living hijackers, there's pretty much no way for a truth movement to arise. And Barbara Olson was still on Flight 77. She herself isn't stabbed or slashed but she witnesses some awful things and has PTSD for a LONG time afterward.
I'm afraid you underestimate the human willingness to attribute meaning and excitement to a world in which major events happen for boring and arbitrary reasons. If IOTL conspiracy nutjobs think that no one died in Sandy Hook, they will have no trouble believing that the "terrorists" captured were simply actors.
Will be one, but will so fringed will not even a footnote ITTL, like other question, we wonder if would happen but mostly imagine will be pretty minor, specially as Fahreneit have been butterfly away,that give truther a lot of amunnition in OTL, so in general we can imagine the neocon here being the truther...and people...next year in-universe there are elections...
So with the NES Classic Mini selling like gangbusters, making it almost certain that we'll see an SNES Classic Mini at some point, what 30 games would you choose if there was an SNES-CD Classic Mini?
It was tough to narrow it down to 30 but here's what I came up with:
Andrekah
Ballistic Limit
Chrono Trigger
Dog Dash
Donkey Kong Country
Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest
Final Fantasy VI
F-Zero CD
Ken Griffey Jr.'s Winning Run
Killer Instinct
Kirby Super Deluxe
The Legend Of Zelda: Ocarina Of Dreams
NBA Jam
Secret Of Mana
The Secret Of Monkey Island
Snatcher
Squad Four
Squad Four: Eclipse
Star Fox
Super Bomberman CD
Super Mario Kart
Super Mario RPG: Legend Of The Seven Stars
Super Mario World 2
Super Mario World 3
Super Street Fighter II: Arcade Edition
Tale Phantasia
Tales Of The Seven Seas
Terranigma
Universalizer
Victory
I imagine it would retail for something like $79.99, which is a pretty fair price since I imagine these games would all be going for about $9.99 individually if we get a Virtual Console/PSN-like service ITTL (which seems fairly likely thus far). Any thoughts on what you guys would include or is this a solid list?
It was tough to narrow it down to 30 but here's what I came up with:
Andrekah
Ballistic Limit
Chrono Trigger
Dog Dash
Donkey Kong Country
Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest
Final Fantasy VI
F-Zero CD
Ken Griffey Jr.'s Winning Run
Killer Instinct
Kirby Super Deluxe
The Legend Of Zelda: Ocarina Of Dreams
NBA Jam
Secret Of Mana
The Secret Of Monkey Island
Snatcher
Squad Four
Squad Four: Eclipse
Star Fox
Super Bomberman CD
Super Mario Kart
Super Mario RPG: Legend Of The Seven Stars
Super Mario World 2
Super Mario World 3
Super Street Fighter II: Arcade Edition
Tale Phantasia
Tales Of The Seven Seas
Terranigma
Universalizer
Victory
I imagine it would retail for something like $79.99, which is a pretty fair price since I imagine these games would all be going for about $9.99 individually if we get a Virtual Console/PSN-like service ITTL (which seems fairly likely thus far). Any thoughts on what you guys would include or is this a solid list?
I've been thinking about this myself lately. That is a great list, but why don't we do 50 games. I think that is a better number. Obviously the price may increase but I think it would be worth it.
Well, if we did 20 more...
Castlevania: Rondo Of Blood
Dog Dash 2
Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble
Donkey Kong Country 4: Kong Family Reunion
Elements Of Mana
Final Fantasy V
Frederico
Kirby's Adventure 3
Mega Man X3
Parappa The Rapper
Pickton Lake
Pokemon Super Adventure
Sphere Soldier
Star Wars: Masters Of Juyo
Tales Of The Seven Seas 2
Tecmo Super Bowl CD
Tetris Attack
The Three Caballeros
Twisted Metal
Where In The World Is Carmen Sandiego?
Those would be the games I would add.
Castlevania: Rondo Of Blood
Dog Dash 2
Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble
Donkey Kong Country 4: Kong Family Reunion
Elements Of Mana
Final Fantasy V
Frederico
Kirby's Adventure 3
Mega Man X3
Parappa The Rapper
Pickton Lake
Pokemon Super Adventure
Sphere Soldier
Star Wars: Masters Of Juyo
Tales Of The Seven Seas 2
Tecmo Super Bowl CD
Tetris Attack
The Three Caballeros
Twisted Metal
Where In The World Is Carmen Sandiego?
Those would be the games I would add.
Are you kidding me? "Causing a panic" among a bunch of kindergartners? If the man can't handle a bunch of upset six-year-olds, how is he supposed to lead a nation?
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