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  1. Neoteros Dux Mediolani

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    Well, since there was a big age gap between the members (the youngest was 15 at the time of debut, the oldest 25) it's not like they would've been able to go on forever doing their idol group thing, but even in OTL they could've easily become a BTS equivalent if they played their cards right - and told their Svengali to fuck off. For one, they were all fluent in English, whether at a basic level or an advanced one and, since three out of four of the members spent several years overseas, they would've been able to navigate their new environment fairly easily. It's like they were made to have an international appeal, but didn't capitalize on it.

    They were genuinely down to earth people - even some prominent figures of the US pop scene thought so - who loved pop music but got crushed by the industry.
     
  2. RyderWest Spintop Isolated

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    Speaking of music, has the internet nostalgia hipsters come out on videoocean and youtube yet ITTL?

    Its around this time IOTL that Vevo statted publishing most major acts to YouTube via music videos and the hatewagon for popular music started rolling that continues to this day.
     
  3. RySenkari Lisa Simpson 2020

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    There's a music update coming REALLY soon... we should be covering a bunch of current stuff in that. Mostly the Asian pop boom but we could touch on some other things.
     
  4. theg*ddam*hoi2fan Beware of the Leopard

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    So... Carmen Sandiego Go? :D
     
  5. Nivek Resident Videogame Expert

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    Carmen Sandiego Ingress would be
     
  6. Roger Redux The Revisionist

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    Carmen SandieGO...
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    I'll show myself out now...
     
  7. theg*ddam*hoi2fan Beware of the Leopard

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    Fair enough :D

    And don't come back until you've found that crimson harlot this time :D
     
  8. Roger Redux The Revisionist

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    There's a word you don't hear too much anymore...."harlot"....most people go straight to "whore"...
    I think "harlot" needs a comeback...
     
  9. theg*ddam*hoi2fan Beware of the Leopard

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    I believe it does, absolutely :D
     
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  10. HawkAussie Sport Alt History person with Anime ;)

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    How is the world of anime, is all the norm in the late 2000s
     
  11. AeroTheZealousOne Actually quite cynical, maybe pessimistic

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    Can't say as an authority, but nothing is normal. Canonically speaking, what is semi-common knowledge here in what anime exists and what doesn't, for starters this world never gets Bleach or Death Note, among a few others. Naruto is still a thing and overall similar to OTL's incarnation, and Fullmetal Alchemist is not an anime or even a manga, but a video game IIRC. And that's just scratching the iceberg of changes...
     
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  12. Threadmarks: Spring 2009 (Part 7) - I Am Vengeance, I Am The Night

    RySenkari Lisa Simpson 2020

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    Batman: Gotham Stories

    Batman: Gotham Stories is an action/adventure game published by THQ for the Sapphire and Xbox 2. It's a big-budget Batman game that in some sense (production values, graphical quality) is similar to OTL's Arkham Asylum. However, the game itself plays somewhat differently, more like a straight-up brawler title than a Metroidvania like the Arkham games were. In Gotham Stories, Batman takes to the streets to battle criminals and protect the innocent, and the game's narrative takes the form of a collection of loosely-tied together segments focusing on a different character or villain, with somewhat of a narrative running in-between. Apart from Batman, the game's most prominent characters are Robin (Dick Grayson, somewhat close to his transition to Nightwing), Batgirl (Barbara Gordon), and Catwoman (Selina Kyle). Numerous members of Batman's rogues gallery appear in the game, including Poison Ivy, The Joker, Scarecrow, and the Penguin, and the game also introduces an original villain, Dr. Lawrence Crencher, who later becomes the villain Terminus and is somewhat of the game's primary protagonist. The gameplay is somewhat inspired by the success of the Xbox's Spider-Man game. It's an open world game, but there's a definite order to the game's storyline missions, and parts of Gotham are locked away until the player completes parts of the story. In the meantime, there are plenty of side missions where Batman can bust petty criminals or look for clues to other, more significant crimes that if solved can unlock more of the game's backstory. The brawling isn't quite as fluid or intuitive as the Arkham games, with less gadgets for Batman to use and slightly less combo potential. Batman is more of a brute force fighter in this game, but is also a bit more of a bullet sponge as well, allowing the player to make more mistakes in combat. Batman can "level up" his health and fighting skills as the player progresses through the game, and there's even a skill tree, with most of the skills focused on fighting. Batman is able to intimidate enemies as well, making them cough up more clues or scaring them into surrendering. The game features plenty of cutscenes, and a fairly skilled voice cast. Kevin Conroy returns as the voice of Batman, but Mark Hamill doesn't play the voice of the Joker. Instead, he's voiced by Kevin Michael Richardson, who voiced him in The Batman animated series IOTL (though this game's Joker appears somewhat similar to his OTL Arkham counterpart). Tara Strong doesn't reprise her role as Barbara Gordon either, instead, Cat Taber voices Barbara in this game. Grey Delisle voices Catwoman, while Dick Grayson is voiced by Mitchell Musso. Dr. Crencher is voiced by William Fichtner, whose performance as the character is particularly highly praised.

    Gotham Stories can largely be divided into six segments, with an overarching storyline taking place in the background. The story segments are, in the order that they appear:

    The Joker: The Joker is actually the first villain to appear in the game, and he has a somewhat diminished role compared to his role in the OTL Arkham series. Harley Quinn doesn't appear in the game. Instead, The Joker is bringing his old mob buddies together, presumably to concoct a scheme to get revenge on the Batman, but in actuality he sees to take out all the mob leaders at once and cause chaos in Gotham, and Batman has to stop him.
    Catwoman: The story focused on Catwoman is the second one to be explored, though Catwoman plays a major recurring role in the rest of the game. The segment focuses on a heist gone awry, where Catwoman accidentally causes an innocent person to be grievously injured in an attempted robbery, and spends the rest of the segment fleeing from Batman as he pursues her. In the end, when it seems that Batman will bring her in, she manages to slip out of his grasp, refusing to take responsibility for what she has done despite her guilt over the incident, an incident whose consequences resonate for the rest of the game (the person Catwoman injured is Dr. Crencher's daughter).
    Poison Ivy: This somewhat short segment sees Batman trying to catch Poison Ivy, who is planning to leak a massive amount of toxins at a gala celebrating Wayne Foundation donors. Ivy claims that Bruce Wayne and his friends are planning to poison the environment, and Batman must not only catch Poison Ivy, but discover who in his company has been lying to him.
    Robin: This segment focuses heavily on Robin, with the Penguin as the main villain. Dick Grayson is dating a girl who happens to be one of Barbara's friends, but this girl is, for some reason, working with the Penguin, and may also have information about both Robin and Batgirl's secret identities. This segment goes in-depth into Batman's partnership with both Robin and Batgirl, and has a more emotional tone than the other segments of the game.
    Scarecrow: This segment heavily features Dr. Crencher as well, who will ultimately become Terminus at the conclusion of this segment. Scarecrow works with Dr. Crencher to produce a powerful chemical agent that Crencher can use to take out both Batman and Catwoman, but the two both seek to betray each other, with massive collateral damage potential. This segment sees Catwoman risk her own life to protect Crencher's daughter from Scarecrow, while Terminus badly injures Robin and nearly does the same to Batgirl before Batman jumps in and saves them both.
    Batgirl: The final segment sees Batgirl racked with guilt over Robin's injury, and she ventures off alone to deal with Terminus, while Batman is forced to give up on bringing in Catwoman to help Batgirl. Terminus' ultimate plan is to wipe out crime in the city by using a chemical made by Scarecrow and a weapon of his own design to blast Gotham from above. The chemical spread by the weapon is designed to eliminate people's desire to be criminals by causing them pain when they think about committing a crime, but Batman knows that the chemical will cause fatal brain bleeds in those affected, and has to stop Terminus to save the city. Batgirl arrives and manages to put up a good fight against Terminus before being hit by the weapon. At first, she's all right because she doesn't have any criminal desires, but after Terminus reminds her about Robin, she collapses in pain, unable to control her desire to kill the person who injured her friend. Batman arrives and the final boss battle begins, with Terminus' powerful weaponry and armor providing the main challenge in the fight. Batgirl fights through her pain long enough to help Batman knock Terminus out, and Batman administers a dose of the antidote to her in time to save her life. The ending shows that Robin has left before fully recovering from his injury, causing Batman to feel immense guilt about what happened to him. Batgirl is able to track him down, and despite his injuries, he's training... he plans to keep training until he's strong enough to be useful to Batman again, setting up his transformation into Nightwing.

    Batman: Gotham Stories is released in May 2009. It's one of the more hyped games of the month, with similar hype levels to the 2007 Spider-Man Xbox game. Reviews are solid, averaging in the 8/10 range and praising the game's production values and scope. However, Gotham Stories would ultimately fall short of the praise given to OTL's Arkham Asylum. Its focus on an original villain rather than on the Joker is criticized by long time series fans, as is the absence of Harley Quinn. It's seen as one of the better Batman games, maybe the best Batman game ever released, but it's more of an expansion of the classic Super Nintendo Batman Returns-type brawler than it is a legitimate game changer for the series. It's a strong seller, and is highly praised by most, but it's not QUITE the blockbuster hit that OTL's Arkham games were. Still, it proves that there's an appetite for Batman games, and a sequel would soon enter production.

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    New Harley Quinn Animated Film Series Announced, Lyssa Fielding To Star In Title Role

    Warner Bros. home animation division, which continues to produce animated films based on its popular DC super hero properties, has announced that at least three animated films will be released based on the Joker's longtime partner, Harley Quinn. Harley has appeared with the Joker already in a number of film projects, but these will be the first animated films where she'll be playing a starring role, without the Joker being present. In addition, Lyssa Fielding, who played Harley Quinn to great praise in the 2006 film Suicide Squad, will voice her in these new films. Previously, the role of Harley Quinn was played by Arleen Sorkin, and while Sorkin will continue to voice her in numerous other animated projects, including television shows and other films, Fielding will be playing her here.

    "Fans responded really well to Lyssa's portrayal of Harley in Suicide Squad," said Paul Dini, one of the co-creators of the character, "and I personally thought she did an excellent job with the character, so for these films, I think her spin on the role will be a fun way to link the live-action film with these animated films."

    The first film, simply called Harley Quinn, sees the character released from Arkham after surprisingly passing a psychiatric evaluation. She immediately makes plans to break her friend Poison Ivy (voiced by Annie Wersching) out of confinement, but finds herself wrapped up in another criminal scheme in the meantime. The release window for the film has been announced as 2010, with most production already wrapped up and animation work entering its final stages.

    The announcement of Lyssa Fielding's involvement in another Harley Quinn-related project has raised speculation about a Suicide Squad film sequel, but so far, nothing has been announced as of yet, as Warner Bros. instead chooses to focus on other projects. Fielding herself has taken to social media to gin up support for a sequel, frequently posting about how much she enjoyed the role and wants there to be another film, but nothing has as of yet been announced.

    -from a post on Toonzone.net on June 1, 2009

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    Batman Film, Animated Series Announced For 2011

    Warner Bros. focus on the Justice League franchise has made fans wonder if there will ever be another stand-alone Batman film. Batman Triumphant was the last film to be released in 1999 featuring only the Caped Crusader, and while he's been a big part of the Justice League series, it's been a desire of many fans to see Batman return in his own film, especially after Superman was announced to star in a film in 2010 (though he'll be teaming up with the Legion Of Super-Heroes as well). Now, we have our answer. Batman Crusader will be released in 2011, and will take place before any of the Justice League films and apart from the Burton/Schumacher series. While it won't tell Batman's origin story, the film does take place before Batman teamed up with Robin and will focus on a "crucial decision" in the life and career of the Caped Crusader.

    Released alongside this film will be a new animated series just announced for Cartoon Network, that won't take place in the same universe but will feature a "similar tone" to that film and will also take place at an earlier point in Batman's crime-fighting career. The voice cast for the show has not yet been announced, but it has been confirmed that Kevin Conroy will not be appearing as the voice of Batman. The new series will be animated by the same team as the new Batman animated film projects scheduled for bi-yearly release starting in 2010 with a new Harley Quinn film and a new Batman vs. Riddler story. With the new Batman announcements, and the popularity of the recent video game Gotham Stories, the Caped Crusader is experiencing a popular culture revival of sorts that might elevate him back into the same cultural prominence he enjoyed during the 90s. Only time will tell if the new films and cartoons can approach the popularity of the now-legendary Batman: The Animated Series, but one thing is for certain: we'll be seeing a lot more Batman in the near future.

    -from a post on DC Galaxy on June 21, 2009
     
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    how different was Batman: the animated series from otl and was there a DCAU in this timeline?
     
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  14. eldandythedoubter Well-Known Member

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    The only difference for the DCAU that I can think of is that there was a Wonder Woman TAS in place of the Zeta Project.
     
  15. volvocrusher Well-Known Member

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    I didn't realize how Arkham not introducing the free flow combat will have a big impact for TTL until I saw this.
     
  16. Threadmarks: Spring 2009 (Part 8) - The Pop Heard Round The World

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    Ryan Seacrest: And now, at last, it's time to reveal the winner.

    *Adam Lambert and a 17-year-old girl named Chloe Wang are standing on the American Idol stage.*

    Seacrest: America... have you chosen Adam, the glam rock superstar who brought down the house with his raw emotion and vocal power? Or have you chosen Chloe, whose incredible pop ballads and stage ferocity got all of us moving our feet? America voted...

    *Adam and Chloe hold each other's hands tightly, both of them trembling as they await the announcement of the winner.*

    Chloe: Good luck, man.

    Adam: You're amazing, girl. You're so amazing.

    Seacrest: And the winner of the eighth season of American Idol is... Chloe Wang!!!

    Chloe: OH MY GOD! *her mouth is wide open in shock and she nearly collapses before Adam pulls her in for a crushingly tight hug* I can't believe it.... I can't believe it....! *to Adam* You deserved to win. You deserved to win.

    Adam: No way, no way girl, you kick ass. You rocked it.

    Chloe: Oh my god! *still shell shocked as Adam kisses her on the cheek and Ryan walks over with a microphone* No freaking way.

    Seacrest: Chloe... Chloe, you're the American Idol!

    Chloe: Oh my god.... oh my god...

    Adam: *releases Chloe from the hug and is just clapping for her over and over again*

    Chloe: Oh my god. *takes her trophy and holds it tightly, still in disbelief*

    -from the eighth season finale of American Idol, which aired live on May 27, 2009

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    When Chloe Wang won the eighth season of American Idol, it was seen at the time as perhaps the biggest upset in the history of the show. She had beaten Adam Lambert, who was seen by some as the reincarnation of Freddie Mercury with his massive vocal range and powerful rock ballads, which included a performance of Bohemian Rhapsody on the final two special that had Simon Cowell giving a one minute standing ovation. Lambert had repeatedly given some of the best performances in Idol history, while Chloe Wang was, at first, seen as just an ordinary pop singer with a decent voice that wasn't anything special and a very pretty face. However, Wang had two things going for her. The first was a stage presence that presented a much deeper personality than that of a pop princess. She was outspoken and somewhat rebellious, and even her pop songs had a bit of a harder edge to them, taking influence from power pop, punk, and even riot grrl. She presented herself as a take no prisoners, "I will kick your ass" kind of girl, and though she was one of the youngest in the final 12, she seemed to have a wit and wisdom beyond her years. She made a major name for herself during the Top 9 performance week, after singing a rendition of Britney Spears' "Toxic" that wowed the crowd but didn't move Simon Cowell, who gave Wang some of the harshest criticism he'd given any contestant all year. When Wang sniped back at him with a veiled insult, the crowd roared, and even Cowell seemed momentarily taken aback. That moment had seen Wang go from someone who'd been in the bottom three the past two weeks to someone who wouldn't finish in the bottom three until the Top 4. The second thing Wang had going for her was that she was riding the crest of the Asian pop wave. The daughter of a Chinese-American man and a Caucasian woman, Wang embraced her Asian roots (she briefly pondered changing her stage name to Chloe Bennet before applying for Idol, but decided against it at the encouragement of her parents), and not only performed American pop songs, but J-Pop and K-Pop songs as well, infusing them with her own punk style. She didn't know it at the time, but her stint on American Idol was the beginning of a fusion between American pop and Asian pop styles, something that arguably began with the Outkast/Hikaru Utada collaborations but didn't truly take off until Wang's unlikely Idol run, in which she covered songs that Asian pop bands had performed in English, mixing their styles with her own. Here was an American pop artist fully embracing the latest wave of Asian pop, and doing it in a way that was transformative rather than simply an imitation. She was embraced by the Asian-American community, who voted for her like no other Idol contestant before. She also won a vast majority of male votes, especially during the final two. Though her win over Adam Lambert was condemned by critics, it was celebrated by nearly everyone else, as the biggest symbol to date that the Asian pop boom had truly arrived. Wang would soon become one of the top pop stars of the day, quickly surpassing even Carrie Underwood in popularity amongst Idol alums, and elevating herself to a level matched only by rising stars such as Taylor Swift and Katy Perry.

    -from "Reflections On American Idol: Season 8", posted on an American Idol blog on September 3, 2015

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    Hikaru Utada, Andre 3000 Call It Quits

    Japanese pop star Hikaru Utada and hip-hop superstar Andre "3000" Benjamin, one half of the duo Outkast, have broken up after nearly three years. The two not only enjoyed a personal relationship, but a celebrated professional relationship as well, collaborating on a number of projects that fused Japanese pop with Southern rap and helped popularize Asian music in the West. The two even enjoyed a pair of #1 hits, most notably "Kuruma", which featured Utada singing the chorus and backing up Outkast's rap lyrics. Though the two had dated very publicly, with appearances at the Grammys and the MTV Video Music Awards, they never announced any type of engagement, leading to rumors that their relationship wasn't quite as warm in private as it was out in the open. Utada was the one to announce the breakup in an interview with MTV, stating that "we decided to go our separate ways, it wasn't working and neither of us were feeling that connection like we used to, so I made the decision to break it off". While Andre 3000 hasn't publicly commented on the break-up yet, a song on the latest Outkast album is rumored to be about Utada. Called "Fallen Angel", the song talks about "bad decisions" related to a woman with whom the singer was once very close to, and the song also references "Ms. Jackson", Outkast's 2000 hit about Benjamin's failed relationship with Erykah Badu.

    As for Utada, she is embarking on a massive tour of North America, Latin America, and Europe, following a successful concert in late 2008 where the singer performed in Tokyo alongside both Asian and American pop artists. The concert, called "Pan-Pacific Popmania", reached over 100 million viewers combined between MTV and online web streaming, while over 150,000 fans attended live across both locations, making it the most viewed concert since 2005's "Live 8". Utada's new English album is expected to release next month, and is expected to take a run at half a million sales in its first week in North America.

    -from a May 21, 2009 article on Yahoo! News

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    Jay-Z: And I gotta tell you, these girls, they got it. They're gonna be the biggest group since Destiny's Child.

    Nick Cannon: Whoa. When we first heard you had signed a Korean pop band, we thought, you know, maybe this is just Jay-Z branching out, trying out something new. You're saying this band is the biggest band you've ever signed.

    Jay-Z: Absolutely. Look at what's going on right now. It's the new sound. Look at who just won on American Idol.

    Cannon: Okay, so this band is called-

    Jay-Z: 2NE1.

    Cannon: To Anyone?

    Jay-Z: No no, 2, as in the number two, and then N, and E, and 1. The "NE" stands for "New Evolution", and this is the new evolution of pop right here.

    Cannon: Did you come up with that, or-

    Jay-Z: No, no, their original label did. Then, you know, I did some wheelin', and some dealin', because I knew that I could produce these girls' next album in such a way that their talent would shine through. These girls, they're incredible.

    Cannon: So when's their first American album gonna drop?

    Jay-Z: Hopefully by the end of this year, but you know how the creative process is, could be next year. Hopefully this year though, we'll see.

    Cannon: So is Jay-Z getting out of the hip hop biz or-

    Jay-Z: *laughing* No, no, man. Fuck no. *laughing harder* No, I've still got a ton of rap acts and my own new album coming out this year. No, this is, this is me knowing talent when I see it.

    Cannon: And if there's anyone in this business who knows talent, it's Jay-Z.

    Jay-Z: But there's gonna be, I think, you'll see hip hop evolve. You remember how rock and roll started, with guys like Chuck Berry jammin' away. And then you get the Beatles, and you get Hendrix, and you get the Rolling Stones, and it just blows up and goes off in all these different directions. That's what's going on with hip hop right now. It's the kind of thing where you can take all this great music and just tell your story and let the music put those emotions in the mind of the listener, and any act, whether it's rap, or pop, or what have you, that can tell a great story is gonna sell. 2NE1 has a great story and I wanna help them tell it. You'll hear it soon, I promise you.

    -from the June 8, 2009 episode of Nick Cannon's "Wild Beats" program on Northstar Satellite Radio

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    "The Great Gatsby won big at the Tony Awards last night, taking home the award for Best Musical, Best Performance By A Leading Actor In A Musical, and Best Performance By A Featured Actor In A Musical, among several others. It took home 11 awards in all, making it one of the biggest winners in Tony Awards history. The second biggest story of the night was the upset in a crowded field for Best Leading Actress In A Musical, in which legends like Bette Midler, Patti LuPone, and Stockard Channing were competing for the top prize. Midler was expected to take home the award for her performance in Suddenly Summertime, but it was instead 23-year-old Stefani Germanotta who took home the prize for her heartrending performance in Homecoming Queen. Germanotta's starring role in the hit musical about a teenage social outcast who forms an unlikely and ultimately tragic relationship with the most popular girl in school, won accolades for its uncompromising portrayal of the struggles of LGBT youth, but despite the praise heaped on her performance, most critics believed she wouldn't have the name recognition to take home a Tony. It was the only Tony won by Homecoming Queen, which was beaten out by The Great Gatsby in seven other categories, but it did make for one of the most memorable moments in the award show's history."
    -from NBC's Today on June 8, 2009

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    Scott Pelley: But it's not exactly a dog-eat-dog world in the pop business, even as stars continue to rise overnight. Taylor Swift, who was nominated for Best New Artist at this year's Grammy Awards, said in a recent interview that she has a positive relationship with her fellow singers.

    *A snippet is shown of Taylor Swift's recent interview with CBS This Morning.*

    Swift: I just love it that so many young people are achieving fame in this industry. It's a tough industry to break into, but the doors are flying wide open. I have a really good relationship with everybody. I'm really close with BoA. We met last year in San Francisco at that concert we did together and she's such a fascinating person to get to know. We jammed on guitars together a bit, we sang some of our favorite songs together.

    *Katy Perry is shown signing autographs outside of a theater in London, while Paramore is seen with the band Wishes (a Japanese band comprised of both male and female members in their late teens/early 20s) in Tokyo.*

    Pelley: And now with stars from Japan, South Korea, and even China making their music heard on American radio, this new wave of pop singers has an international element not seen since the "British invasion" of the 1960s, when bands like the Beatles came to America and became household names.

    *Archival footage is shown of the Beatles performing on the Ed Sullivan show, and then footage from a 1960s Rolling Stones concert is shown.*

    Pelley: While it's much too early to declare acts like Koda Kumi and Taylor Swift comparable to John Lennon and Paul McCartney, young fans are going just as wild for the new wave of pop stars as today's Baby Boomers went for those iconic British bands that changed rock and roll forever. Latin music superstar Selena, who has embarked on a production career, compares the current rise in popularity of Asian pop acts in the States to the Latin music boom of the late 90s and early 2000s, a music boom that many say she was instrumental in starting.

    *Selena is shown at her production studio, giving some vocal coaching to young Selena Gomez as she records a modern-sounding pop song.*

    Selena: It is just amazing to see how cyclical it is. When you have these ultra-talented performers that previously were only being heard by one group of people, and now suddenly the whole world knows about them, it changes everything.

    *Scott Pelley is shown sitting across from Selena, interviewing her.*

    Pelley: Do you think it's possible for any kind of music to catch on if the performer is talented enough?

    Selena: Music is music, and I think it takes a lot of factors for a song to become popular. The singer's got to have charisma, the music has to sound good. Doesn't matter where the singer comes from. I've heard so much of the new pop music, and it sounds really catchy. I love Katy Perry, I think she's amazing. I think BoA has a really good sound. It's not any kind of music that's ever been heard before, but now that people are listening to it, yeah, they're really feeling it.

    Pelley: Do you think there's still a place for your style of music in today's scene?

    Selena: Oh, absolutely. I think you've got to adapt, of course, but the soul of that music is still there. I've experimented with some fusion sounds, Chris on the guitar, kind of a Latin guitar sound with some of the new music that's coming around. Carlos Santana and I did a lot of collaborations in the early 2000s with his old guitar and a modern pop sound that did really well. So yeah, there's a place for it. In the end, the listener will decide. You can't make somebody like something, you've got to appeal to their ear. This new music, it's really appealing. My daughter loves Taylor Swift, I think I do too.

    -from a story on the June 24, 2009 episode of the CBS Evening News

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    Controversial Young Singer M.S. Promises A "Badass" New Album For Later This Year

    14-year-old pop singer and friend to Pharell Williams, M.S., who is perhaps best known for "trolling" Taylor Swift at the 2008 Grammy Awards, is set to release a new album by the end of the year. While a title for the album has not yet been announced, M.S., whose real name is Martina Sanders, announced the new album on Twitter and promised that it would be "totally badass", while showing a picture of herself lighting a copy of her previous album on fire. That album went #3 in South Korea, and while it failed to chart in the United States, her songs from that album have garnered over a billion hits collectively on Videocean, raising anticipation for her upcoming album to a fever pitch. M.S., who turns 15 in August, hopes to launch herself into the American pop mainstream, but her recent behavior, which includes passionately arguing about her favorite anime shows on Twitter and posting pictures of herself in inappropriately revealing attire, have garnered a massive amount of controversy, and have somewhat called the reputation of Pharrell Williams into question, with some analysts urging him to "exercise more control" over his protege. Williams has mostly shied away from commenting about M.S.'s behavior, but when he has responded, most of his comments have been to the effect of "I'm just letting her be her". M.S. has been embraced by many young fans both male and female alike, and while her album is likely still a few months away, it's emerged as one of the most anticipated of the year, along with the new album for Hikaru Utada and the surprise Nirvana reunion album set for release this fall.

    -from an article on Sonicwave.com, posted on June 26, 2009

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    Casey Kasem: And now, friends, this is it, the #1 song of the week and my final #1 reveal on this program before I hand over the reins to my good friend Ryan Seacrest, who I know will continue bringing you America's top hits with the same joy and excitement that I've experienced bringing them to all of you these past 38 years. It's been a wonderful journey and a privilege to come into your homes every week on the radio to count down the hits. We've had some great times, haven't we? I'm truly going to miss all of you very much. This week's #1 is a new #1 song, rising from #3 last week. It's from a singer who's a legend in her country of origin, but who is topping the American pop charts from the very first time. She hails from Japan, and her name is Ayumi Hamasaki. She's been performing since 1995, back when the top songs here in the US were songs from acts like Bryan Adams and Madonna. Only recently has she experienced success in the West, and her new album "Fantasy/Reality" features a mix of songs with English and Japanese lyrics. The biggest hit from that album is a song performed entirely in Japanese, "My Forever". It's the first ever song with all Japanese lyrics to top the American pop charts, and it's done so amidst a surging wave of successful young Asian performers bringing their hits to the West. In fact, it's the third Billboard #1 pop song this year by an Asian artist. Hamasaki has credited her success to her honesty and determination, and seeks to convey those qualities in her songs. She has said on numerous occasions that the greatest gift one can give themselves is to believe in themselves, a sentiment she expresses in many of her songs. Now, that determination has carried her song to the number one position on the American pop charts.

    *drum roll*

    Casey Kasem: With the #1 song of the week, and my final #1 as host of American Top 40, here's Ayumi Hamasaki with "My Forever".

    -from the June 28, 2009 broadcast of American Top 40, Casey Kasem's final broadcast before retiring
     
  17. Neoteros Dux Mediolani

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    Jay-Z and 2NE1? Now that's a pairing I did not expect - their OTL fling with will.i.am made sense since the Black Eyed Peas are more pop than hip-hop, but Jay-Z, I don't know... sure, he's done things with R&B artists before, but 2NE1 is not an R&B quartet. I wonder what will this collaboration result in.
     
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    God, I hope Casey has a better fate than OTL...
     
  19. eldandythedoubter Well-Known Member

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    NO MY OTP IS RUINED!!!!!

    Also, I hope the 2NE1 on Roc A Fella does pan out into a successful career.
     
  20. Neoteros Dux Mediolani

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    It all depends on the person who will manage them overseas, Jay-Z or Yang Hyun Suk. Former 2NE1 member CL's US debut fizzled out because Mr. Yang had the final say on everything about her career despite how she was signed to Scooter Braun's label in the US, in the end she snapped and leaked a full music video she'd filmed a couple years prior, meaning Y.H.S. was keeping her inactive on purpose out of nothing but spite. As I said before, the K-Pop industry is a seedy business that would make early 20th century Hollywood seem quaint, and earlier overseas exposure of it might actually result in a bubble-bursting chain of scandals.
     
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