Mary of Burgundy, Duchess of Berry and Lorraine

In the year 1474, aged 17, Mary of Burgundy, the only child of Charles the Bold of Burgundy, married Charles de Valois, Duke de Berry. The union, to the dismay of the King of France, the resulted immediately with children. In 1475 the Princess Margaret of Burgundy was born, shortly followed by Charles of Burgundy in 1477, Philip of Burgundy in 1478 and Isabelle of Burgundy 1480. Unfortunately, in 1481, Mary was left a widow after her husband finally succumbed to his untreated venereal disease, which Mary did suffer from but would not die from for many years. Her eldest son did not take the title of Duke of Berry, instead Mary pushed and succeeded in having it be given to her second son, ensuring his future. She briefly considered an Austrian rematch, but instead chose in 1485 to marry the Duke of Lorraine and Bar, with whom she would have 4 more children: Francis, Duke of Lorraine (b.1487), Nicholas, Duke of Guise (b.1492), Anne of Lorraine (b.1493) and finally John, Duke of Bar (b.1500). Mary pushed for all of her sons to receive titles and spoke of the need for a stronger spread and majority for her children. In 1510, aged 53, she died of her long festering venereal disease, which had killed her husband in 1506.

Mary I of Burgundy (b.1457: d.1510) m. Charles de Valois, Duke de Berry (b.1446: d.1481) (a), René II, Duke of Lorraine (b.1451:d.1506) (b)

1a) Margaret of Burgundy (b.1475: d.1543) m. Juan, Prince of Asturias (b.1475: d.1497) (a), Philibert II, Duke of Savoy (b.1480: d.1504) (b)

1a) Philibert III, Duke of Savoy (b.1501)​

2a) Charles II, Duke of Burgundy (b.1477: d.1540) m. Louise de Bourbon (b.1482: d.1561) (a)

1a) Christine of Burgundy (b.1506)

2a) Philip IV, Duke of Burgundy (b.1509)

3a) Andre, Duke of Montpensier (b.1512)​

3a) Philip, Duke of Berry (b.1478: d.1516) m. Sabina of Bavaria (b.1492: d.1564) (a)

1a) Miscarriage (c.1510)

2a) Stillborn Boy (c.1512)

3a) Marguerite de Berry (b.1515: d.1518)​

4a) Isabelle of Burgundy (b.1480) m. Charles II, Duke of Guelders (b.1467: d.1538) (a)

1a) Mary of Guelders (b.1502)

2a) Catherine of Guelders (b.1503: d.1506)

3a) Charles of Guelders (b.1507: d.1509)​

5b) Francis, Duke of Lorraine (b.1487: d.1522) m. Anne of Navarre (b.1492: d.1536) (a)

1a) Marguerite of Lorraine (b.1511)

2a) Antoine, Duke of Lorraine (b.1512)

3a) John, Archbishop of Lorraine (b.1514)

4a) Isabelle of Lorraine (b.1515)

5a) Francis of Lorraine (b.1517: d.1518)

6a) Christine of Lorraine (b.1518)

7a) Louis of Lorraine (b.1520: d.1522)​

6b) Nicholas, Duke of Guise (b.1492: d.1530) m. Philiberta of Savoy (b.1498: d.1524) (a)

1a) Nicholas II, Duke of Guise (b.1518)​

7b) Anne of Lorraine (b.1493: d.1507) m. Lorenzo de' Medici, Duke of Urbino (b.1492: d.1519) (a)

1a) Francesco de Medici (b.1507)​

8b) John, Duke of Bar (b.1500: d.1556) m. Anne de La Tour d'Auvergne (b.1496: d.1524) (a), Livia Gonzaga (b.1508: d.1569) (b)

1a) Francis, Duke of Bar (b.1521)

2a) Marguerite of Bar (b.1523)

3b) Marie Christine of Bar (b.1526)

4a) Madeline of Bar (b.1528)

5a) Cecile of Bar (b.1532)

6a) Suzanne of Bar (b.1537)​
 
It was considered OTL by her father but went nowhere after he died. As did a match with Nicholas, Duke of Lorraine

Interesting, so no Habsburg match, and I note her daughter is married to Juan, so no Habsburg dualism there. Interesting
 
Maximilian I, Holy Roman Emperor (b.1459: d.1519) m. Joanna of Aragon (b.1454: d.1517) (a)

1a) Joanna of Austria (b.1477: d.1548) m. John I of Poland (b.1459: d.1501) (a), Ferdinand II of Aragon (b.1452: d.1516) (b)

1a) John II of Poland (b.1498)

2a) Anna Jagiellon (b.1500)

3b) Margaret of Aragon (b.1507: d.1509)

4b) Juan of Aragon, Prince of Girona (b.1510: d.1514)

3b) Ferdinand III of Aragon (b.1513)​

2a) Maximilian II, Holy Roman Emperor (b.1480: d.1533) m. Anna Sforza (b.1476: 1493) (a), Joanna I of Castile (b.1479: d.1555) (b)

1a) Miscarriage (c.1492)

2b) Charles of Austria (b.1497: d.1509)

3b) Maximilian III, Holy Roman Emperor (b.1500)

4b) Eleanor of Austria (b.1501)

5b) Henry V of Castile (b.1503)

6b) Isabella of Austria (b.1504)

7b) Catherine of Austria (b.1506)

8b) Ferdinand of Austria (b.1508: d.1510)

8b) Mary of Austria (b.1510)​

3a) Frederick, Archduke of Austria (b.1483: d.1503)​
 
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Philip the Fair's name came from his maternal great-grandfather Philip the Good of Burgundy (just like Charles was named after Charles the Bold), Maximilian's child by other woman would have different names.
 
In the year 1474, aged 17, Mary of Burgundy, the only child of Charles the Bold of Burgundy, married Charles de Valois, Duke de Berry. The union, to the dismay of the King of France, the resulted immediately with children. In 1475 the Princess Margaret of Burgundy was born, shortly followed by Charles of Burgundy in 1477, Philip of Burgundy in 1478 and Isabelle of Burgundy 1480. Unfortunately, in 1481, Mary was left a widow after her husband finally succumbed to his untreated venereal disease, which Mary did suffer from but would not die from for many years. Her eldest son did not take the title of Duke of Berry, instead Mary pushed and succeeded in having it be given to her second son, ensuring his future. She briefly considered an Austrian rematch, but instead chose in 1485 to marry the Duke of Lorraine and Bar, with whom she would have 4 more children: Francis, Duke of Lorraine (b.1487), Nicholas, Duke of Guise (b.1492), Anne of Lorraine (b.1493) and finally John, Duke of Bar (b.1500). Mary pushed for all of her sons to receive titles and spoke of the need for a stronger spread and majority for her children. In 1510, aged 53, she died of her long festering venereal disease, which had killed her husband in 1506.

Mary I of Burgundy (b.1457: d.1510) m. Charles de Valois, Duke de Berry (b.1446: d.1481) (a), René II, Duke of Lorraine (b.1451:d.1506) (b)


2a) Charles II, Duke of Burgundy (b.1477: d.1540) m. Louise de Bourbon (b.1482: d.1561) (a)

1a) Christine of Burgundy (b.1506)

2a) Philip IV, Duke of Burgundy (b.1509)

3a) Andre, Duke of Montpensier (b.1512)​


I am sure you realize that Charles of Burgundy, 1477-1540, son of Charles of Berry and Mary of Burgundy, and grandson of king Charles VII of France, becomes king of France by Salic Law as soon as king Charles VIII dies sonless. Which OTL means in 1498.
 
I am sure you realize that Charles of Burgundy, 1477-1540, son of Charles of Berry and Mary of Burgundy, and grandson of king Charles VII of France, becomes king of France by Salic Law as soon as king Charles VIII dies sonless. Which OTL means in 1498.

In other words, fear the Big Blue Blob (France+Burgundy deciding to go after Italy):eek:
 
So the Netherlands are still Burgundian as of 1518, correct? I know you already have an alternate son of Maximillian succeeding him, but what if the election of 1519 is contended by the King of France as OTL? Is there any way he might win TTL?
 
So the Netherlands are still Burgundian as of 1518, correct? I know you already have an alternate son of Maximillian succeeding him, but what if the election of 1519 is contended by the King of France as OTL? Is there any way he might win TTL?

I just can't figure out how the king of France could won the election for holy roman emperor.

It took Francis I stupidity and arrogance to believe that he could be elected.

The german princess and the 7 electors did not want to be ruled by such a powerful monarch as the king of France.

And they would always have prefered one of the german princes. So they took the french money and the Habsburg money ... and elected the Habsburg candidate.
 
I just remembered that Henry VIII was also a candidate (a "dark horse"); did he, of all people, actually have a better shot of being emperor than Francis I?

I suppose the upshot to having the King of France as your Emperor is that you're at least somewhat less likely to go to war with him. That, plus the bribes.
 
Philip the Fair's name came from his maternal great-grandfather Philip the Good of Burgundy (just like Charles was named after Charles the Bold), Maximilian's child by other woman would have different names.

Very true, Philip and Charles are in fact french royalty names. Quite ironic with the bitter enmity between France and Spain in the 16th and 17th c.
 
I just can't figure out how the king of France could won the election for holy roman emperor.

It took Francis I stupidity and arrogance to believe that he could be elected.

The german princess and the 7 electors did not want to be ruled by such a powerful monarch as the king of France.

And they would always have prefered one of the german princes. So they took the french money and the Habsburg money ... and elected the Habsburg candidate.
But in this case, the French King is Burgundian.
 
Very true, Philip and Charles are in fact french royalty names. Quite ironic with the bitter enmity between France and Spain in the 16th and 17th c.

That is taking it a bit too far. Philip became popular as a royal and thus noble name thanks to the Capetians, Charles OTOH is a Frankish* name, most notably the Carolingian Charlemagne.

(*= thus was known by the Romance and Germanic speaking descendants of the Frankish elite)
 
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