Marriage Partners for Daughters of James IV?

Say James IV weds earlier (maybe to Bianca Maria Sforza or Giovanna/Charlotte of Naples - all of whom were mentioned as possibilities OTL. I'd include Margarethe of Austria, but she was only offered at the end of the 1490s). His eldest son is born in 1489/1490 (and betrothed/married to Margaret Tudor instead). Followed by three or four girls scattered through the 1490s (1491, 1493, 1496 and 1499).

Now, I can imagine one of the girls being considered for OTL Henry VIII (everything outside this "bubble" stays reasonably close to OTL, so Arthur still dies childless). But I'd imagine that the minute Margaret Tudor produces James IV's first grandson, a Scots princess' appeal to London will have dulled somewhat (if it hasn't already, compared to the dowries that Katherine of Aragon or Eleonore of Austria can field).

So, where might be decent candidates for these girls to wed?
 
Think it would be a bit of a struggle for him to find partners for his daughter's outside Scotland - one of the problems with his own marriage was the upheaval in Scotland under his father and conflict with England which made it even harder - one possibility is that James III agrees to the match with Cecily of York proposed by Henry VII in 1486.
He himself seems to have been pretty reluctant to rush to the altar on his own accession. Maria of Aragon and Margaret of Austria were suggestions later on) - Charlotte of Naples raised in France was a possible if he was angling for a pro-French match but she was only born in 1480 (so no kids till the mid to late 90s at the earliest) Bianca was considered briefly in 1492 but it wasn't serious on the Sforza side i believe.
I would suspect domestic matches were more likely if their were that many - you'd be looking sometime between 1504 to 10 for the marriages and foreign candidates are a bit short on the ground - John Stewart Duke of Albany might be a possible for one of them, Christian of Denmark is another one given that James' mother was Danish
 
Think it would be a bit of a struggle for him to find partners for his daughter's outside Scotland - one of the problems with his own marriage was the upheaval in Scotland under his father and conflict with England which made it even harder - one possibility is that James III agrees to the match with Cecily of York proposed by Henry VII in 1486.
He himself seems to have been pretty reluctant to rush to the altar on his own accession. Maria of Aragon and Margaret of Austria were suggestions later on) - Charlotte of Naples raised in France was a possible if he was angling for a pro-French match but she was only born in 1480 (so no kids till the mid to late 90s at the earliest) Bianca was considered briefly in 1492 but it wasn't serious on the Sforza side i believe.
I would suspect domestic matches were more likely if their were that many - you'd be looking sometime between 1504 to 10 for the marriages and foreign candidates are a bit short on the ground - John Stewart Duke of Albany might be a possible for one of them, Christian of Denmark is another one given that James' mother was Danish

A marriage to Cecily seems the likeliest option then. Although I'd imagine it could bring it's own problems with England?

I was thinking a Danish match or maybe even something like with Karl II of Guelders (James' grandma was Geldrian after all). Otherwise perhaps French proxies (if there's no dauphin)? Antoine II of Lorraine, Carlo III/Filiberto II of Savoy, Gaston de Foix, duc de Nemours etc...?
 
I would like a match between Gustav and a scottish princess, but given James is more likely to support the danish, it might not go over well. Plus Gustav were looking for allies within the baltic sea area. So Scotland might not make the cut.
 
I would like a match between Gustav and a scottish princess, but given James is more likely to support the danish, it might not go over well. Plus Gustav were looking for allies within the baltic sea area. So Scotland might not make the cut.

Can I interest you in a match between Gustaf and one of TTL James V's daughters (born in the 1510s)
I figure OTL James V was willing to court Kristina of Denmark (if only to force the French to keep to the treaty of Rouen), which would have likewise pissed Denmark off. So he might be willing to accept Gustaf if he can't get a Danish prince. The Danish connections of a Scots princess would actually serve Gustaf as well as a Baltic match, since then he can claim that their son is a "union of bloodlines" (Christian I and Gustaf's own Sture blood) if only for propaganda purposes
 
Think it would be a bit of a struggle for him to find partners for his daughter's outside Scotland - one of the problems with his own marriage was the upheaval in Scotland under his father and conflict with England which made it even harder - one possibility is that James III agrees to the match with Cecily of York proposed by Henry VII in 1486.
He himself seems to have been pretty reluctant to rush to the altar on his own accession. Maria of Aragon and Margaret of Austria were suggestions later on) - Charlotte of Naples raised in France was a possible if he was angling for a pro-French match but she was only born in 1480 (so no kids till the mid to late 90s at the earliest) Bianca was considered briefly in 1492 but it wasn't serious on the Sforza side i believe.
I would suspect domestic matches were more likely if their were that many - you'd be looking sometime between 1504 to 10 for the marriages and foreign candidates are a bit short on the ground - John Stewart Duke of Albany might be a possible for one of them, Christian of Denmark is another one given that James' mother was Danish
I do not know about Bianca Maria... Ludovico was trying quite hard to find another husband for the girl before deciding to marry her to the Emperor with a very large dowry in exchange of the Imperial investiture of Milan...
Only taking away that wedding would be trouble and a wedding between James and Cecily would need most likely a continuation of her father’s (or brother) rule on England...

Maybe a better match would be Isabella of Naples if her first wedding ended unconsummated (but that will totally butterfly the Italian Wars and in that case Bianca Maria also would be possible).
 
He was Isabella and a King (even a Scots one) would have been a prize but the window was pretty narrow I think. As to James and Cecily - Henry VII was pretty serious in his 1486 offer to James III (though it did include James marrying Henry's mother in law lol the offer came just after Margaret of Denmark's death) - it disposed of a financial issue for him (supporting one of his numerous sister in laws and mother in law) and got him peace - James III's own trouble make it difficult to achieve but it isn't impossible
Isabella of Naples means no kids in Kellan's early timeline (the early 90s) because of her age and its only going to happen with French support (where she was living). As said earlier James himself apparently was in no rush to marry after his accession.
 
He was Isabella and a King (even a Scots one) would have been a prize but the window was pretty narrow I think. As to James and Cecily - Henry VII was pretty serious in his 1486 offer to James III (though it did include James marrying Henry's mother in law lol the offer came just after Margaret of Denmark's death) - it disposed of a financial issue for him (supporting one of his numerous sister in laws and mother in law) and got him peace - James III's own trouble make it difficult to achieve but it isn't impossible
Isabella of Naples means no kids in Kellan's early timeline (the early 90s) because of her age and its only going to happen with French support (where she was living). As said earlier James himself apparently was in no rush to marry after his accession.
I proposed Isabella of Naples (aka the Duchess of Milan then Duchess of Bari) if her first wedding to her cousin Gian Galeazzo Sforza (aka Bianca Maria’s brother) is annulled for not consummation in 1490 (something who almost happened OTL). The French raised and too young girl is her cousin Charlotte of Naples
If Henry VII was serious about Cecily then that match has some chances to happen but is still less likely than earlier
 
I proposed Isabella of Naples (aka the Duchess of Milan then Duchess of Bari) if her first wedding to her cousin Gian Galeazzo Sforza (aka Bianca Maria’s brother) is annulled for not consummation in 1490 (something who almost happened OTL).

That could be an interesting match. Since Giovan Galeazzo would be without a wife as well (might he simply remarry to Beatrice d'Este or is that being too simplistic?)
 
That could be an interesting match. Since Giovan Galeazzo would be without a wife as well (might he simply remarry to Beatrice d'Este or is that being too simplistic?)
No, he would stay unmarried (because he would be considered impotent after the non consummation of his wedding). Beatrice would marry as OTL to Ludovico (as they were engaged from years) and their children would be the undisputed heirs of Milan (so this would most likely keep the relation between Milan and Naples civil and butterfly the Italian Wars. Thinking well is still likely who Ludovico will go to marry Bianca Maria to the Emperor in exchange of the Imperial investiture on Milan for securing his rule)
 
I proposed Isabella of Naples (aka the Duchess of Milan then Duchess of Bari) if her first wedding to her cousin Gian Galeazzo Sforza (aka Bianca Maria’s brother) is annulled for not consummation in 1490 (something who almost happened OTL). The French raised and too young girl is her cousin Charlotte of Naples
If Henry VII was serious about Cecily then that match has some chances to happen but is still less likely than earlier
Yes largely thanks to the efforts of his uncle who was no longer fond of the Naples alliance and was keen to keep hi nephew impotent and on the other side the pope and Naples were keen for the match to work given that Isabella gave birth in January 91 to her first child you’ve only got from feb 89 to April 90 for proceedings to get underway lol
 
Yes largely thanks to the efforts of his uncle who was no longer fond of the Naples alliance and was keen to keep hi nephew impotent and on the other side the pope and Naples were keen for the match to work given that Isabella gave birth in January 91 to her first child you’ve only got from feb 89 to April 90 for proceedings to get underway lol
OTL was really close and is pretty unlikely who was Ludovico’s fault as at period he was still favorable to the alliance with Naples and had no wife to send back Isabella (who was also his niece) and her dowry and at least in public was very angry and disappointed by Gian Galeazzo’s inability to consumate his wedding.
My POD would be having Ludovico in 1489 less interested in the consummation of Gian Galeazzo and Isabella’s wedding and much more interested in his own wedding to her cousin Beatrice d’Este so he will put less pressure on Gian Galeazzo to consumate the wedding and sent the still virgin Isabella back in Naples
 
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