How likely is it that Marie escaped execution and avoided her husband's fate, sneaking out of France and back to Austria to call on support to take back France? Would she have legal authority? How likely was it?
No one, if anything would make the revolutionary forces more fierce as they hated her a lot, unless he can smuggle his children too(and even among the rich burgeoise the kid was considered a bastard)How likely is it that Marie escaped execution and avoided her husband's fate, sneaking out of France and back to Austria to call on support to take back France? Would she have legal authority? How likely was it?
Considered a bastard? What?No one, if anything would make the revolutionary forces more fierce as they hated her a lot, unless he can smuggle his children too(and even among the rich burgeoise the kid was considered a bastard)
Anyone else?
Considered a bastard? What?
Blame....dunno with an old poster we discussed how Little she was loved AND His whole affair with that swedish count damage a lot her and Louis XVI reputationsFirst time I've heard it as well.
Blame....dunno with an old poster we discussed how Little she was loved AND His whole affair with that swedish count damage a lot her and Louis XVI reputations
Well you never knowShe was not the monarch of France, she (like all French queens) was only the consort of her husband. She had no legitimacy to lead a counter-revolution herself, and was not popular either. If anything, she probably would damage support for her son's claim.
That is the point, legitimacy matter, her daugther would get a better shot but even her would got sidelined thanks to salic law, MA have zero legitimacy unless she can smuggle her son too.Well you never know
How likely is it that Marie escaped execution and avoided her husband's fate, sneaking out of France and back to Austria to call on support to take back France? Would she have legal authority? How likely was it?
Would Still be better than Charles X anywayo, yeah. Putting her on the throne to replace her husband would be a terrible idea.
Would Still be better than Charles X anyway
Well you never know
Even if she wasn't responsible for the nation's financial woes, she certainly didn't help matters when she played a role in the dismissal of two reformist financial ministers, because she was worried if they took her expenses into her account
Just goes to show that people are really gullible ahaActually this is a misconception. The comtesse de Provence and the comte d'Artois' debts were FAR in excess to hers. Louis XVI had to settle them several times during his reign.
In comparison to Antoinette's L'Hameau at Versailles, the comtesse de Provence's version had windmilld and everything; while the princesse de Condé's at Chantilly was even MORE extravagant than THAT IIRC.
Antoinette's spending was excessive, yes. But she suffers a lot from being put in the same basket to her predecessor (Madame du Barry) and successor (Josèphine de Beauharnais). Du Barry's DOGS walked around with DIAMOND collars, Josèphine's extravagance was likewise nothing to be sneezed at (she had a bigger wardrobe than Antoinette IIRC).
She would be hated. You know how people attach that apocryphal quote 'Let them eat cake' to her? Well, she didn't say it, but it pretty much sums up her mood. To the French people, all she cared about was living a luxurious lifestyle. She spent so much money on her lifestyle that among the regular people, they called her 'Madame Deficit'. Even if she wasn't responsible for the nation's financial woes, she certainly didn't help matters when she played a role in the dismissal of two reformist financial ministers, because she was worried if they took her expenses into her account, the court's expenses, as a whole, would balloon above the official 7% of the state budget. She also played a part in King Louis being so resistant to listen to the demands of the National Assembly.
Plus more than one minister of Finance encouraged Marie Antoinette’s spending in clothing and other French products as good for the national economy so her dismissing the ministers of finance for that concerns sound pretty unlikely. And Marie Antoinette has zero fault in the Affaire du Collière unlike the Cardinal of Rohan and the King...Actually this is a misconception. The comtesse de Provence and the comte d'Artois' debts were FAR in excess to hers. Louis XVI had to settle them several times during his reign.
In comparison to Antoinette's L'Hameau at Versailles, the comtesse de Provence's version had windmilld and everything; while the princesse de Condé's at Chantilly was even MORE extravagant than THAT IIRC.
Antoinette's spending was excessive, yes. But she suffers a lot from being put in the same basket to her predecessor (Madame du Barry) and successor (Josèphine de Beauharnais). Du Barry's DOGS walked around with DIAMOND collars, Josèphine's extravagance was likewise nothing to be sneezed at (she had a bigger wardrobe than Antoinette IIRC).