Margaret Thatcher use nuclear weapons on Argentina during Falklands War

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I'd shoot someone in the face for punching me in the face.

I'd shoot someone in the face just for looking at me.

Hell I'd shoot someone in the face just because they had a face! If I could be bothered to track you lot down I'd shoot every single one of you in the face just for existing!!! AND THEN I'D LAUGH!!! I'D LAUGH WITH JOY AS YOU WRITHED AROUND AT MY FEET IN FACE SHOT AGONY!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not if I get you first!!!!!! Look over your shoulder I might be there!:D
 
They get their by flying to Spain on a commercial flight, buying some wetsuits, and then picking up some guns & bombs that have been brought over to Spain in an Argentine diplomatic bag.

I didn't say the RN aren't there, or the attack has to be successful.

If the attack takes place, even if it's a total disaster for the Argentines, it's an attack in the NATO area.
Ah, but it's not. You see, while the attack was indeed planned by the Junta, it was to be carried out by Argentine insurgents, not by members of the Argentine Armed Forces. Legally speaking, the Argentine government would have plausible deniability. It's not just retiring an officer, removing his flag badge from the shoulder and claiming any actions of such a paramilitary do not involve the government - it's that the men who were going to carry it out were never members of the Argentine Armed Forces.

Of course, since this is war and not a court of law, the British may have not cared.
 
But why would Argentina have done that anyway? Say what you like about the junta, their claim was to the Falklands, not to Gibraltar. If they attack somewhere far, far away from South America—whether or not it can be formally pinned on them—they lose a lot of sympathy from the sort of people who believe the Falklands are a British colony in rightfully Argentine land and the British are waging a colonial war against Argentina. It's kind of difficult to claim you're fighting for the freedom of your people oppressed by the thousands-of-miles-away British when you attack somewhere close to Great Britain and thousands of miles away from you.
 
But why would Argentina have done that anyway? Say what you like about the junta, their claim was to the Falklands, not to Gibraltar. If they attack somewhere far, far away from South America—whether or not it can be formally pinned on them—they lose a lot of sympathy from the sort of people who believe the Falklands are a British colony in rightfully Argentine land and the British are waging a colonial war against Argentina. It's kind of difficult to claim you're fighting for the freedom of your people oppressed by the thousands-of-miles-away British when you attack somewhere close to Great Britain and thousands of miles away from you.

Because their government was run by a bunch of fascist loons, and the looniest of the lot decided, authorized & planned on the operation, without even consulting the other 2 fascist loons.

It's not that they might have tried this - they did actually try this in real life - but were too incompetent to do the operation (they also considered attacking in the UK) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Algeciras
 
Ah, but it's not. You see, while the attack was indeed planned by the Junta, it was to be carried out by Argentine insurgents, not by members of the Argentine Armed Forces. Legally speaking, the Argentine government would have plausible deniability. It's not just retiring an officer, removing his flag badge from the shoulder and claiming any actions of such a paramilitary do not involve the government - it's that the men who were going to carry it out were never members of the Argentine Armed Forces.

Of course, since this is war and not a court of law, the British may have not cared.
The limpet mines were supplied to the Argentine government by Italy. They likely would have been traceable. Quite aside from the fact that the British were reading the Argentine's diplomatic messages (whether they would reveal that publicly might be another matter - but they might reveal that in private to some/all NATO allies).
 

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I seriously doubt this is even possible but:

Much of Buenos Aires' population, now reduced to asado flavored nuclear dust, travels to Montevideo and punta del leste, increasing the cancer rates over there for quite some time.

Brazil decides to rush that good ol' nuclear program as fast as possible, probably will have nukes before redemocratization.

Pinochet smiles.
 
That doesn't stop Argentina claiming that the islands are theres when they've been ours (British) since before Argentina existed as a country.

I suspect the real reason they want them is that there is oil - alot of it - beneath the islands and Argentina wants that revenue for itself.

They can say that the Falklands are Argentine until they are blue in the face, but that doesn't make them so. If we followed Argentina's logic here, we should claim Argentina is British, as it's quite close to the Falkland Islands which belong to Britain and there are a lot of cows there that we'd like for Sunday roasts.
 
The limpet mines were supplied to the Argentine government by Italy. They likely would have been traceable. Quite aside from the fact that the British were reading the Argentine's diplomatic messages (whether they would reveal that publicly might be another matter - but they might reveal that in private to some/all NATO allies).
After blowing up?

In any case, whether the mines were traceable, the men weren't soldiers, etc, it's a moot point, as it's war, not a court of law. The most the Junta could realistically hope was either for the UK to refrain from invoking NATO article 5 or for a few members to buy into the charade of "Totally not us", which would be unlikely - otherwise, they'd be telling the USSR all they need to do is to send some Spenatz commandos without an identification and deny responsibility.
And it's not like, assuming the frogmen escaped undetected, the world would read about a British ship blown by a mine at Gibraltar and think "accident" or "ETA" while missiles and bombs are flying through the South Atlantic
Because their government was run by a bunch of fascist loons, and the looniest of the lot decided, authorized & planned on the operation, without even consulting the other 2 fascist loons.

It's not that they might have tried this - they did actually try this in real life - but were too incompetent to do the operation (they also considered attacking in the UK) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Algeciras
Actually, had Anaya authorized the attack on May 2nd, the operation would have been carried out
But why would Argentina have done that anyway? Say what you like about the junta, their claim was to the Falklands, not to Gibraltar. If they attack somewhere far, far away from South America—whether or not it can be formally pinned on them—they lose a lot of sympathy from the sort of people who believe the Falklands are a British colony in rightfully Argentine land and the British are waging a colonial war against Argentina. It's kind of difficult to claim you're fighting for the freedom of your people oppressed by the thousands-of-miles-away British when you attack somewhere close to Great Britain and thousands of miles away from you.
Because Argentina and the UK were at a shooting war?
How do they get there? Why isn't RN protecting one of more important harbours in what is war time?
Because the British aren't the invicible übermensch who can do no wrong AH.com tend to depict. To quote from the Wikipedia article
For the first few days, they surveyed Algeciras bay in search of the best place to enter the water and to observe the maritime traffic in and out of Gibraltar. There was not as much surveillance in Gibraltar as they had expected: two sentry posts were unmanned, and only one navy vessel patrolled the area around the port.
 
oh i dont know - they were uber enough to travel 6000 miles and retake the island within 100 days while inflicting a 3-1 casualty rate against the defenders

sounds pretty uber to me
 
If one takes the Argentine Malvinas logic as correct then Ireland belongs to Britain and Britain belongs to France, except Scotland which belongs to Norway which belongs to Denmark which also should have possession of England. Mind you, all of Western Europe, North Africa and the Middle East up to Iran belongs to Italy as Italy belongs to Rome. That includes Spain so the Spanish should not have allowed Argentina to become independent as it is Italian because Spain is Italian.

On the other hand there were no indigenous inhabitants of the Falkland Islands so being British is a matter for those who now live there. In the case of Argentina there was (and is) an indigenous population who were colonised by Spanish and Italian immigrants. The colonial power in this matter is the Spanish and later Argentine rulers.

I hope that has made everything clear...........

One thing is clear. Milksnatcher was never going to even let the thought of using nuclear weapons upon Argentine pass through her mind and she would have been locked up in minutes in the unlikely event of her going insane and suggesting it.
 
By whom exactly? I'm not exactly a fan but even I'm willing to admit she wasn't that insane.

By some mind-reading experts on Galtieri's service, no doubt. It's about as plausible as these quotes re Russia attributed to Thatcher, Albright and all the other designated Western villains of the day by our loony loyalists.
 
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