Mapmaker, mapmaker make me a map...

Krall · Nov 23, 2007

I will pay 500,000,000 Imaginary Pounds to whoever can take this base map:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:BlankMap-Europe.png

And then put accurate [or semi-accurate] 1648 borders on it. Colours are optional, but it must be a PNG image, and the borders must consist of one-pixel thick lines.

This is the closest map I could find, but it just uses vague thick black lines for borders:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d0/Europe_map_1648.PNG

FSM-Worshiper · Nov 23, 2007

I found this GIF, and I tried to copy the boundaries to the blank map of Europe, but it proved to be too difficult a task. Why must the image be a PNG?

Krall · Nov 23, 2007

I said it must be a PNG mainly to stop people saving it as a JPG, as saving it as a JPG feths up the quality of the image, mean you can't edit it easily in paint, which is how I always do maps.

Actually, that GIF you posted would be ideal, if it weren't for the country names.

Thande · Nov 23, 2007

I can get you a Centennia blank map for that year, if that helps.

Krall · Nov 23, 2007

Um, I'm not sure what that is. Can it be editted quite easily using paint?

Oh, and a map of different areas of the world and/or the whole world would be really useful aswell if you can find one.

And, thanks in advance for all your help.

Thande · Nov 23, 2007

Krall said:
Um, I'm not sure what that is. Can it be editted quite easily using paint?

Yeah. PNG format. Give me a moment.

Krall · Nov 23, 2007

It's not the PNG format I'm all that worried about, it's the way the borders are done.

With wikipedia's maps it's simple. One-pixel wide borders, all white, the sea is white, all countries are exactly the same shade of grey [so it's really easy to instantly colour in a whole country].

Thande · Nov 23, 2007

Krall said:
With wikipedia's maps it's simple. One-pixel wide borders, all white, the sea is white, all countries are exactly the same shade of grey [so it's really easy to instantly colour in a whole country].

Do you not know the Paint tricks that let you easily recolour countries, using the Erase tool and the background colours?

Anyway, here's the map. Centennia maps aren't 100% accurate but they're a good starting point.

Krall · Nov 23, 2007

Thande said:
Do you not know the Paint tricks that let you easily recolour countries, using the Erase tool and the background colours?

Paint bucket/fill tool, actually. Instantly recolours an area consisting of one contiguous colour into a different colour of your choice.

Thande said:
Anyway, here's the map. Centennia maps aren't 100% accurate but they're a good starting point.

Ooo! Perfect! Thanks!

Can I ask exactly what happened to Ireland, though? Because I've seen three maps of this exact year and they each show Ireland differently. One was just 'Ireland', another had English areas in the east, and this one, well, it looks like it's deseased, and has a nation other than England or Ireland in it.

Thande · Nov 23, 2007

Krall said:
Paint bucket/fill tool, actually. Instantly recolours an area consisting of one contiguous colour into a different colour of your choice.

Ah, young padawan, you know not the ways of Paint

Select the inkdropper tool, left click on colour A, right click on colour B, then select the Erase tool, hold down the right button and wave it around all over the map. It will recolour A to B without affecting anything else. Very handy for fiddly islands and enclaves.

Krall said:
Ooo! Perfect! Thanks!

Can I ask exactly what happened to Ireland, though? Because I've seen three maps of this exact year and they each show Ireland differently. One was just 'Ireland', another had English areas in the east, and this one, well, it looks like it's deseased, and has a nation other than England or Ireland in it.

Green is the Irish Catholic Confederation, slightly lighter brown is English Royalists, paler brown is Parliament.

Krall · Nov 23, 2007

Ah, and after the war all of Ireland would just be Ireland, right? Actually, now that I think about it, a map in 1657 would be better, as that my POD.

I'll search for a map of Europe in 1657 on HistoricalAtlas.com, where you got this 1649 map.

And, thanks again.

Edit: Erm, apparently I have to be logged on as an administrator to setup Centennia, so... would you awful mine please posting the map for 1657? Pleasey-please?

Thande · Nov 23, 2007

Krall said:
Ah, and after the war all of Ireland would just be Ireland, right? Actually, now that I think about it, a map in 1657 would be better, as that my POD.

I'll search for a map of Europe in 1657 on HistoricalAtlas.com, where you got this 1649 map.

And, thanks again.

Edit: Erm, apparently I have to be logged on as an administrator to setup Centennia, so... would you awful mine please posting the map for 1657? Pleasey-please?

OK, but no more - don't want to upset the copyright people.

Thande · Nov 23, 2007

Can't promise total overlap because the programme annoyingly resets the zoom every time...

Krall · Nov 23, 2007

Thank you!

...Any chance of a map of the world at that time? It doesn't have to be Centennia, just any map of the world at that time.

Thande · Nov 23, 2007

Krall said:
Thank you!

...Any chance of a map of the world at that time? It doesn't have to be Centennia, just any map of the world at that time.

What, 1648 or 1657?

Don't think so, unfortunately - most world maps I've found are for round years (1600, 1700 etc.)

Mind you, changes in the world outside Europe and India, which you can get regional maps for, tended to be fairly slow in the 17th century...

Krall · Nov 23, 2007

Thande said:
What, 1648 or 1657?

Don't think so, unfortunately - most world maps I've found are for round years (1600, 1700 etc.)

Mind you, changes in the world outside Europe and India, which you can get regional maps for, tended to be fairly slow in the 17th century...

Apart from the Anglo-Dutch and Anglo-Spanish wars, what with New Amsterdam/York and Jamaica and all...

Oh well, there's a map in the OTL map thread that's around that century that should suffice.