What's wrong with it? It looks like a lot of the African ethnicity's have formed their own states, just without the Europeans intervening in it. The big Egypt and Morocco makes sense as those places have been places of power and wealth in Africa for centuries. Ethiopia being split is an odd choice, is it between the Somalis and the Ethiopians? Also, did you reform Carthage? I think this map is ok, 7.83/10.
Map Thread XXII
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Hi @tae_will21
Answer these questions wherever you want (here, in Chat, via DM,...) - I do have some questions about your 2055 Crisis Era map:
I have read all the lore on the map and in the texts.
- is McGuire in any position of power as of 2055? Is the USACE military junta/technocratic regime McGuirist?
- Has McGuire inspired the policies of the Two Billion Pact?
- Are the UN and Two Billion Pact allies, rivals or enemies? What are the main differences between the two? As far as I can see, the UN at least lets everyone try to survive, while the Two Billian Pact wants to decide who is allowed to live from above, by the authorities in their authoritarian regimes?
- Who is this successor of Xi Jinping?
- Why was the 2036 Southwest Genocide committed against "dissidents, woman's rights activists, migrants and Muslim-Americans"? And what happened in the US during the Hammer Week of 2041(?)?
- Why was President Howell deposed?
- Except for a total or near-total migration ban and a resurgence of ultra-reactionary family policies with a resurgence of fascism, what are other policies of the Sovereigntists in most of Europe? Are they expansionist, too? Are they or have they been genocidal? Are the racial pogroms state-supported or -incited or not?
- Who were the victims of the WWF Genocide, where was it committed?
- What are the ideas/policies of Etnocacerismo and Antauro in Peru? What does "Curco" mean in the contect of annotation 9?
- The map does hint at a birthrate crisis at least in Europe, and as far as I understand it, the crisis is that the birthrates are too low. But... wouldn't McGure supporters support a birthrate as low as possible? Or are Europe's Sovereigntists not pro-McGuire and this is limited to the US and/or Canada and/or Britain?
- What is the difference between "God's Will" Christian extremism and Narco-Pentecostalism? I presume Peixao was a Narco-Pentecostalist terrorist leader?
- The Gulabi Liberation Army is female supremacist, that is rather clear. But are they the culprits of the anti-Afghan Genocide? Also, is the Gulabi Liberation Army supported by anyone?
- What is the 6B-4T movement? Are they allies or enemies of the Gulabi Liberation Army?
- With social media almost universally banned or strictly controlled, what became of the Internet otherwise? What became of technology in general?
Answer these questions wherever you want (here, in Chat, via DM,...) - I do have some questions about your 2055 Crisis Era map:
I have read all the lore on the map and in the texts.
- is McGuire in any position of power as of 2055? Is the USACE military junta/technocratic regime McGuirist?
- Has McGuire inspired the policies of the Two Billion Pact?
- Are the UN and Two Billion Pact allies, rivals or enemies? What are the main differences between the two? As far as I can see, the UN at least lets everyone try to survive, while the Two Billian Pact wants to decide who is allowed to live from above, by the authorities in their authoritarian regimes?
- Who is this successor of Xi Jinping?
- Why was the 2036 Southwest Genocide committed against "dissidents, woman's rights activists, migrants and Muslim-Americans"? And what happened in the US during the Hammer Week of 2041(?)?
- Why was President Howell deposed?
- Except for a total or near-total migration ban and a resurgence of ultra-reactionary family policies with a resurgence of fascism, what are other policies of the Sovereigntists in most of Europe? Are they expansionist, too? Are they or have they been genocidal? Are the racial pogroms state-supported or -incited or not?
- Who were the victims of the WWF Genocide, where was it committed?
- What are the ideas/policies of Etnocacerismo and Antauro in Peru? What does "Curco" mean in the contect of annotation 9?
- The map does hint at a birthrate crisis at least in Europe, and as far as I understand it, the crisis is that the birthrates are too low. But... wouldn't McGure supporters support a birthrate as low as possible? Or are Europe's Sovereigntists not pro-McGuire and this is limited to the US and/or Canada and/or Britain?
- What is the difference between "God's Will" Christian extremism and Narco-Pentecostalism? I presume Peixao was a Narco-Pentecostalist terrorist leader?
- The Gulabi Liberation Army is female supremacist, that is rather clear. But are they the culprits of the anti-Afghan Genocide? Also, is the Gulabi Liberation Army supported by anyone?
- What is the 6B-4T movement? Are they allies or enemies of the Gulabi Liberation Army?
- With social media almost universally banned or strictly controlled, what became of the Internet otherwise? What became of technology in general?
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Hold on, is this an independent Marajó Island in northern Brazil?
I don't know about others, but my personal problem with the map is that the countries still tend to follow arbitrary borders, suffer from insane geopolitical issues, and there being immense balkanization in general.
Fascinating, now that is something that I have never seen in any alternate history timeline or map, ever, I wonder what life must be like in there, I have some few questions:
- What is the full name of the country?
- What is its capital?
- Which languages are spoken?
- What is the demographic makeup of the country?
- Overall, what is the daily life, economy, and culture in the place like?, is it more or less like Guyana and Suriname?, relatively poor rural countries, that are a mix of Indian, Afro-Caribbean, and Indigenous American cultures?
Unfortunately when I prepared the draft of this one shot I didn’t include this originally . I made some adjustments to the newer maps such as merging Bengal with North India which was absent in the Original one shot.
I can't divulge much on the country except that it would be an economic Satellite of the nearby Jewish state of Jadidiya after its Independence. Kind of like a toned down version of Domincan Republic
With a few exceptions* ethnicity has never been a major thing in African states or societies, traditionally African societies have been formed around tribal, linguistic, religious (mostly Northern Africa) and geographic lines, ethnicity is very much a European invention that doesn't really mean anything in the large majority of Africa.
*Ethiopia (though often a multiethnic empire), Egypt, South Africa (multiple ethnic groups), Eswatini and Lesotho are basically the only ones where it's meaning to any real degree; Somalia could under some definitions be included, but the greater Somali identity is based on language rather than ethnicity.
Well Ethiopia is the biggest country in the Horn of Africa. The remaining countries are (Q)afar, and two Somali countries, one gravitating to the Gulf of Aden around Zeila and the other around the Shebelle river. Well the division is really through the deep Rift Valley separating the Ethiopian Highlands to the west and the Cushitic speaking areas to the east.
Purple is the Republic of Afriga, speaking its Southern Romance language.
Not sure if this counts as a map (There is a map in the upper left and right plus one in the center right)
This is by Reddit user u/DominoDaddy2 and is part of his Fire in the Sky Alternate History Timeline. a USA map and a Arabian Freedom ship from this timeline was posted here not too long ago.
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unlabelled: Republic of New Netherlands.
Countries with European-originating official languages:
- French: Republic of Canada, Republic of Louisianna, Antillean Confederation, Quairian republic
- Anglish: commonwealth of New England, Commonwealth of Virginia, Confederated States of Caroline, Barbados
- Dutch: Commonwealth of New Netherlands, Wayanese Union,
- Isbanic: bahamas, Republic of Florida, California, Tejas, Misquito, Venezuela, Orinocan Union, Cuba, Republic of Nootka
- Galician: Piaui, Potiguara, Goias, Catagua
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Thanks for the Questions! I'll try to answer the ones that don't get into current politics
-McGuire: He's a real guy (and in his 70s now so Idk if he can make it to 2055), while his ideas are mostly bog-standard British Green (and not at all related to the reactionary bent of the Sovereigntists) they get adopted anyway by the Two Billion Pact (not the 'we should make a better society for everyone' part but the 'we actually should kill everyone in the out group so the in group gets more' part). McGuire would be spinning in his grave if he saw their policies. The USACE has a more 'all men are brothers' approach to the crisis and is trying to save everyone (in the UN, while supporting immigration from Central Africa to Southern Africa)
-Xi's successor is one of the architects of their current Green Energy turn
-Howell didn't like the increasing power of the Department of Resettlement (which was creating fiefdoms for itself in the new tent city camps of people evacuated from costal regions) and tried to fire the secretary as well as the secretary of land management. In response they schemed with the Army Corps, which had gained power in the 2040s from stopping Hammer Week (an attempted cultural revolution sorta thing by the New Popular Front) and was popular for its widely-publicized public works projects and anti-flooding measures. Howell was quietly forced out of office and the Chief Engineer declared a state of emergency which is still ongoing.
-They have a lot of varied and quixotic economic policies, being formed from populist parties that only had a defined social platform and not an economic one. There's actually a sort of command economy and extensive welfare state created from extensive inheritance taxes levied upon the eventual death of the wealthy boomers. Economically they're in a position similar to Japan currently where the economy itself isn't growing but living standards aren't falling either
-The WWF genocide thing is real (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-47444297), as the climate crisis heats up many African and Asian states seek to destroy the sovereignty of stateless peoples in their territories in the name of conservation (and control). It's mostly non-settled peoples already on the margins of society that are most affected.
-Ethnocacerism (Etnocacerismo in Spanish) is real (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnocacerism) and not powerless, 'Curco' is a Qechua pejorative that's used for opponents of the regime
-While McGuire himself might have supported lowering the birthrate everywhere, the Sovereigntists have a more ethnically chauvinist view (note how their ideal scenario shows Europe at about 60% of current population and Africa at 20%)
-Narco-pentacostalism is real also (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peixão), it's spreads as a sort of combination of pre-existing cartels and millenarian / new religious forces
-One thing to note is that the androcide is not as much something being committed as a bioweapon that only targets XY people (which is a real thing) created by an ultra-radical and denounced faction of the Gulabis and left to spread across parts of India. as for the Afghans, the Gulabi's take the idea that highly oppressive cultures should be ''re-created'' in a more equitable way, and are in the process of trying to eliminate all the vestiges of islamic rule and Afghan culture from the region
-This is an extention of the existing 4B movement (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4B_movement) which effectively exists as a womens rights pressure group similar to the lying flat movement in China
-Technology advances but it's under rather strict controls by various governments, although this changes substantially by region. The internet is still around but you often have to go to state-monitered computers to see it, this has created a massive grey economy of technically illegal social media and computer systems around the world. Major tech advances have led to highly accurate weather reporting (extra important in 2055), heat resistant clothes/buildings/ect, seawalls, green crops (in the Second Green Revolution), transportation, and renewable energy, while spaceflight and computer tech has stagnated. Overall living standards by region are better in some areas and worse than others, comparable to how the massive death rates of the 14th century made the average European peasant better off even as their compatriots died. (Maputo is night and day compared to 2020 in a good way while Lagos is somehow much worse)
Really, read the link and then you will know.
Stop asking people to do your research for youQ!