Not sure how viable they were as a target considereing Swiss neutrality and Switzerland Size, as it ahd mountains unlike Germany it was never in the direct path of Red Army Forces planning to rush West.
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I am thinking that something like Commonwealth of Independent States could be more of a unified (intergovernmental) association is more likely than Russian holding those lands?
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Apparently the Soviets had plans IOTL to attack Vienna in case of a nuclear war anyways, and since Bratislava and a load cities in western Hungary were hit they probably would have got a load of radiation, as well as some missiles or bombers that got shot down by the other side detonating. After all, we have to think about how volatile the nuclear powered cars are in Fallout. I imagine that most countries would not have too many safety devices on nuclear weapons as they would assume they would only go off over enemy territory. Believing that they would be shot down before leaving your OWN territory would be defeatist. Neutral countries? Ehhh. Spain should probably be obliterated as well, given this is an alternate world and it might slide in with the European Federation or whatever they had. Kind of surprised the map doesn’t show more nuclear areas in the arctic and other areas, where missiles might have detonated early. Ahhh wait. This is the nuclear Hyrule timeline, isn’t it?
I believe the Danish would have been happy with only Schleswig, though due to the people of that duchy and Holstein deliberately working for centuries to keep them messily split up between three branches so that the two duchies were never separated, I understand why it ended up being a package deal. I feel that Italy probably could have been sleep separated into at least five decent sized kingdoms with no problems, but we can perhaps assume that the Italian branch of the Habsburgs run things down there and that the people who were formerly independent Dukes got a lot more wealth and power internally, being the governors or being labeled in such a way that they would be treated as the Dukes of Thuringia were, meaning as the main stock of marriage material for the cousins of Catholic Monarchs. Interesting to see Norway and Iceland independent so early. Do they have former-Danish royals on the throne, or did they manage to find a Swede for one of them? Perhaps difficult, given the Swedish nobles booted out their own King for a Frenchman. I feel Nassau would be annoyed by the sale of Luxembourg, given they would inherit it if a woman ever reigned in the Netherlands, though perhaps after the French got that fortress (assuming it was not demolished like IOTL) the French got some arrangement to support Nassau by the Rhine or a garrison, incase Hesse ever started feeling cramped. Not what you want when next to a state that made most of its money by conscripting its population and renting them out. Then again, the Swiss got over it...
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I mean, Djibouti was still outright French, like the Comorros, as of 1962.
Though no real point for the Soviets to destroy those areas, since the French may not be able to reach Soviet territory from that location. Really, the map should be showing big blobs in China, Russia, Europe, and America, as not all deployment systems had the best aim and, when it came to enemy capitals, you can probably expect at least a dozen different nukes being aimed at it and the areas directly around it, so that even if one failed to get here you still got rid of the headquarters of so many defense ministries.
Alright so, I will again post my own version of the nuclear strikes in Eurasia from my unfinished Fallout Great War world map for you to see, I use the 1956 USA war plans as a source, so because I strictly use real-life sources instead of speculation, it is somewhat different from your map, for example: in OTL, the US did not intended to nuke Tuva and a specific Oblast of Russia near Ukraine (that I forgot the name of), and I do not recall any Cold War plans from any faction (Soviet, China, US) that ever intended to nuke Thailand for some reason, why would they?, same thing with Australia and New Zealand - there were never any indications that they were intended to be nuked, perhaps only US military bases, not civilian cities.
And I also vaguely remember that the Soviets only intended to hit less than a few dozen US Army bases in the Philippines, and not Filipino civilian cities, but overall, this is up to your interpretation if you are going for an all-out apocalypse/civilizational collapse timeline, instead of limiting yourself to real-life war plans, furthermore, in OTL, China was removed from the US's nuclear targets list in 1981 due to the Sino-American re-approachment following over two decades of the Sino-Soviet split, and the Chinese economic reform in the 1970s, so in most post-1980s (or hell, even post-1960s) nuclear Cold War scenarios, China would be allied to the US, would be nuking the Soviets together with the US, and would be nuked by the Soviets, not by their now-ally US.
Anyways, I cannot post the map here right now as I write this comment, so please be patient, and then I shall post it later today or tomorrow.
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I'm wondering whether Iran has better relations with Israel considering the presence of the UAR
Not at all, only the Northern Hemisphere was intended to be targeted in OTL Cold War nuclear war plans, seriously, not even Mexico was intended to be nuked, much less anywhere in South America, but again, if you are talking about a Zelda/Adventure Time crossover thing(?), then you can go on and nuke anywhere that you want to without looking for advice, because this whole concept of literally the entire world getting nuked, especially in 1962, just simply does not makes sense (no offense because your map is fantastic and waaaay better than mine, that I will only be able to post tomorrow!)
Also another important note, since you are talking about the year of 1962 in a Cuban Missile War, then the Soviet Union did not had access to that many nukes, nor ballistic missile technology that would be able to reach and nuke that many places in the US and elsewhere, in 1960 they only had around 1.605 nukes, whereas the United States had a whopping 18.638, the year that the worst nuclear Cold War that could occur is the year of 1985, where the Soviets had 37,000 nukes, and the US had 21,392, with a total of 61,662 nukes worldwide.
For example, neither India, nor Pakistan, nor China had nuclear weapons in 1962, and Israel only had very few rudimentary nuclear weapons (its first deliverable nuclear weapon did not come until around 1966), so you should really focus on doing whatever you want with your ASB crossover timeline, because focusing on real-life plans and stockpiles during the Cuban Missile Crisis would result in your TL becoming extremely anachronistic and nonsensical.
Repeating again, not only was the nuclear delivery technology and stockpile of the year of 1962 not able to nuke these many regions around the world, but even in the late Cold War in the 1980s in the peak of nuclear weapon stockpiles, regions like Latin America, Africa, Oceania, and Southeast Asia were not intended to be nuked at all to begin with as far as publicly-available declassified documents say, but even if certain regions outside of the Northern Hemisphere were indeed secretly planned to be nuked, then NATO, the Warsaw Pact, and China would likely only look to hit army bases, they could not waste nukes by nuking random places when they needed to deal the maximum amount of destruction as possible to incapacitate the nuclear and military capabilities of their rivals, before all of their most-populated cities, army bases, and airports were reduced to rubble.
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I imagine they should have better relations, military cooperation even, perhaps the USA is also more present in the region.
Most unlikely duo of the century, and for some reason I love it!