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Population: 206,611,000
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Population: 30,888,000
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Montgomery USA, by wildviper121
MONTGOMERY USA
Sidewise through the dimensions, American democracy started off on a bad foot. General Montgomery, the conqueror of the north (in OTL he was shot by a cannon) takes the place of Commander in Chief George Washington, who valiantly sacrificed his life in the Battle of Brandywine. Montgomery has less faith in republicanism than Washington, and when the fateful opportunity of crisis comes, proclaims himself Dictator of America. He is shortly thereafter deposed, but despite President Jefferson's best efforts, Montgomery's example lives on. Presidential elections, when they do happen, are more often won by the man with the most bayonets than the man with the most votes. Two great powers--the Virginian Clique of elite planters and the Essex Junto of rich merchants--compete for political power. Dictators and demagogues are more frequent than honest men.
With a divided domestic politics, the United States is prey to hostile outsiders. The British Empire aims to reconquer its orphaned colonies, while the many Francophones of the continent aim to displace American power. Meanwhile, the thundering mammoth of Mexico begins its quest for conquest, looking to the north.

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Here are the list of American leaders:

Leaders of the United States

  • 1776-77: George Washington of Virginia; Commander-in-Chief of the Continental Army (KIA)
  • 1777-87: Richard Montgomery of New York; Commander-in-Chief of the Continental Army
  • 1787-88: James Madison of Virginia, President of the Continental Congress
    • As Quebec revolts, Madison calls General Montgomery to aid the USA. Montgomery’s ego leads to:
  • 1788-89: Richard Montgomery of New York; Dictator of the United States of America
    • Montgomery’s reign is short; he has little support and self-exiles. Quebec does declare independence
  • Election of 1790: Thomas Jefferson (VA) vs John Adams (MA) vs Alexander Hamilton (NY)
    • In the first free election, democratic Jefferson wins a 3-year term
  • 1790-93: President Thomas Jefferson (VA) / John Adams (MA)
    • Jefferson gets a Bill of Rights passed despite Adams’ scheming; Adams is pressed out
  • Election of 1793: President Thomas Jefferson (VA) / Senator Aaron Burr (NY-Republican) vs Ex-VP John Adams (MA-Federalist) / Senator Thomas Pinckney (SC-Federalist)
    • Parties form on the issues of foreign policy, human rights, and government power
  • 1793-96: President Thomas Jefferson (VA-Republican) / Vice President Aaron Burr (NY-Republican)
    • 1794-1795: Aaron Burr (NY-Republican); President of the Northwest Republic
      • Burr, sidelined by Jefferson for his treachery, fails to establish a new country in the NW Territory
    • Jefferson keeps the US neutral as war erupts between France and Britain
  • Election of 1796: Senator James Madison (VA-Jeffersonian) / Governor George Clinton (NY-Jeffersonian) vs Senator Alexander Hamilton (NY-F) / Senator Thomas Pinckney (SC-F)
    • Madison wins on Jefferson’s coattails despite Hamilton's best efforts
  • 1796-99: President James Madison (VA-J) / Vice President George Clinton (NY-J)
    • Madison fails to prevent Britain from taking back Labrador from Quebec
  • Election of 1799: Senator Thomas Pinckney (SC-F) / Governor Alexander Hamilton (NY-F) vs President James Madison (VA-J) / Vice President George Clinton (NY-J)
    • Pinckney accidentally gets first place due to Adams’ scheming. Hamilton, with the aid of General Benedict Arnold, force Pinckney to decline and Hamilton is declared the winner.
  • 1800-01: President Alexander Hamilton (NY-F)
    • Hamilton rules as a dictator but fails to hold onto power; he is deposed by the Virginian Clique of planters and unintentionally killed (a la Pompey)
  • 1801: President Thomas Pinckney (SC-F) / Vice President George Clinton (NY-J)
    • Pinckney is given power, as the rightful winner. But he's not much better than Hamilton in the Virginians’ minds and is deposed.
  • 1801-02: President George Clinton (NY-J)
    • Clinton completes the term in office. Notably, he buys Louisiana from the French.
  • Election of 1802: Senator James Monroe (VA-J) / Ex-VP Aaron Burr (NY-J) vs. Governor John Adams (MA-F) / Senator Charles Pinckney (SC-F)
    • Monroe teams up with Burr (whose politicking makes up for his exile) and wins against the stained Federalists
  • 1802-03: President James Monroe (VA-J) / Vice President Aaron Burr (NY-J)
    • Monroe is swept into disaster with the Francophone invasions; he is unpopular with the Federalist Congress for his proposed Amendments.
  • 1803: President Aaron Burr (NY-F) / Vice President John Adams (MA-F)
    • Burr signs a deal with the Federalists and Monroe is ‘impeached.’ Burr leads the US army to battle and is soundly trounced; he is not invited back to power
  • 1804-08: President John Adams (MA-F)
    • Adams, president at last, defeats the Union’s enemies and passes a series of constitutional amendments to increase the president’s power. He is forced to agree to Louisiana’s independence, however, and resigns in disgrace
  • Election of 1808: Senator Charles Pinckney (SC-F)
    • Pinckney (the brother of the last one) wins in an uncontested election. Burr is invited back as his VP by Congress.
  • 1808-12: President Charles Pinckney (SC-F) / Vice President Aaron Burr (NY-F)
    • Pinckney overseas a relatively peaceful period, except for Burr getting his leg blown off by the British in Florida.
  • Election of 1812: Vice President Aaron Burr (NY) / General Benedict Arnold (CT-F) vs President James Monroe (VA-J) / Governor De Witt Clinton (NY-J)
    • Burr finally wins on his own against Monroe! This pisses off the Virginians, who rebel.
  • 1812-13: President Aaron Burr (NY-F) / Vice President Benedict Arnold (CT-F)
    • Burr and Arnold fight against the rebelling Virginians and are defeated in battle.
  • 1813-16: President James Monroe (VA-J) / Vice President De Witt Clinton (NY-J)
    • Monroe and Clinton are given power by the Virginia Junto. This is an unpopular move in the North, which threatens rebellion
  • Election of 1816: President Aaron Burr (VA-Union) / President James Monroe (VA-Union)
    • With Mexico and Britain preparing invasion, Burr and Monroe overcome their differences and agree to fight off the invaders together, finally combining North and South.
  • 1816-18: President Aaron Burr (VA-Union) / Vice President James Monroe (VA-Union)
    • Burr, leading the Union armies in person, is again trounced in battle unheroically.
  • 1818-19: President James Monroe (VA-J)
    • Monroe negotiates the peace treaty, then resigns in disgrace
  • 1819-20: President James Madison (VA-J)
    • Madison, appointed by Congress, oversees an interim period.
  • Election of 1820: Senator Andrew Jackson (FR-J) / Governor Henry Lee IV (VA-J) vs Senator Henry Clay (KT-J) / Senator Charles Pinckney II (SC-J) vs Senator John Quincy Adams (MA-F) / Senator Nathan Sanford (NY-F)
    • In a three-way election, General Jackson (one of the few men with good military records) wins against rivals.
  • 1820-24: President Andrew Jackson (FR-J) / Vice President Henry Lee IV (VA-J)
    • Jackson manages to stamp out all the various crises confronting the US (epidemics, debts, revolts, slavery-debates). He declines to run again.
  • Election of 1824: Vice President Henry Lee IV (VA-Democratic) / Senator Henry Clay (KT-Democratic) vs Ex-President Aaron Burr (NY-F) / Senator John Quincy Adams (MA-F)
    • Henry Lee IV wins on Jackson’s coattails, though Burr conspires with the Essex Junto and organizes a rebellion.
  • 1824-27: President Henry Lee IV (VA-D) / Vice President Henry Clay (KT-D)
    • Lee, split on many issues with Jackson and Clay, fails to get support to squash Aaron Burr’s rebellion. He resigns in frustration. The last powerful Virginian; western states are now the center of the Democratic Party.
  • 1827-28: President Henry Clay (KT-D)
    • Clay negotiates a deal with Burr and focuses on building domestic infrastructure.
  • Election of 1828: President Henry Clay (KT-D) / Senator John C Calhoun (SC-D) vs Ex-President Aaron Burr (NY-F) / Senator John Quincy Adams (MA-F)
    • Clay is reasonably popular and wins against Burr, who’s growing old
  • 1828: President Henry Clay (KT-D) / Vice President John C Calhoun (SC-D)
    • Burr rebels, defeats Clay in the Battle of Columbus (the Virginians don't support Clay, who's from Kentucky) and marches his armies onto the national capital
  • 1828-29: Dictator Aaron Burr (NY-F)
    • The elderly Burr makes his last act to ban slavery, but rebels tear up the order and have him exiled. Shortly thereafter, he dies.
  • 1829-32: President Henry Clay (KT-D) / Vice President John C Calhoun (SC-D)
    • Clay is returned to power, though fails to find compromise on the slavery question, which Burr ignited
  • Election of 1832: Senator John C Calhoun (SC-D) / Senator William Henry Harrison (OH-D) vs Governor John Quincy Adams (MA-Freedom) / Senator John Sergeant (PA-Freedom)
    • The issue of slavery is at the forefront; the Freedom Party loses
  • 1832-36: President John C Calhoun (SC-D) / Vice President William Henry Harrison (OH-D)
    • 1832-35: President John Quincy Adams (MA-Freedom) / Vice President John Sergeant (PA-Freedom); the Federation of the United States – Boston.
    • The American Civil War, between Calhoun and John Quincy Adams, results in the defeat of the North, the destruction of much of the country, and the prolongment of slavery.
  • Election of 1836: President John C Calhoun (SC-D) / Vice President William Henry Harrison (OH-D) vs Ex-President Henry Clay (KT-National) / Senator John Tyler (VA-National)
    • Clay runs in the hope of negotiating a just peace and rebuilding the nation; the south vengefully reelects Calhoun
  • 1836-39: President John C Calhoun (SC-D) / Vice President William Henry Harrison (OH-D)
    • With the nation split and destroyed, Calhoun and his slavers are unable to defeat the invasion of Great Britain.
  • 1839-??: Sir Charles Metcalfe, Baron of Metcalfe, Governor-General of the Province of North America of the Empire of Great Britain
    • Calhoun surrenders, though rebels continue in the west. Slavery is outlawed and a colonial government is put in charge. However, the British control is tenuous and can be displaced.
(see if you can spot the parallels to Mexico)
 
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[50+ Likes] Rise of the Old Man (surviving Ottoman Empire), by Sārthākā
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Basically the Ottomans win the 1877 war (as a defensive victory) as a PoD. Its an in verse infographic​
 
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MONTGOMERY USA
Sidewise through the dimensions, American democracy started off on a bad foot. General Montgomery, the conqueror of the north (in OTL he was shot by a cannon) takes the place of Commander in Chief George Washington, who valiantly sacrificed his life in the Battle of Brandywine. Montgomery has less faith in republicanism than Washington, and when the fateful opportunity of crisis comes, proclaims himself Dictator of America. He is shortly thereafter deposed, but despite President Jefferson's best efforts, Montgomery's example lives on. Presidential elections, when they do happen, are more often won by the man with the most bayonets than the man with the most votes. Two great powers--the Virginian Clique of elite planters and the Essex Junto of rich merchants--compete for political power. Dictators and demagogues are more frequent than honest men.
With a divided domestic politics, the United States is prey to hostile outsiders. The British Empire aims to reconquer its orphaned colonies, while the many Francophones of the continent aim to displace American power. Meanwhile, the thundering mammoth of Mexico begins its quest for conquest, looking to the north.

View attachment 714896

Here are the list of American leaders:

Leaders of the United States

  • 1776-77: George Washington of Virginia; Commander-in-Chief of the Continental Army (KIA)
  • 1777-87: Richard Montgomery of New York; Commander-in-Chief of the Continental Army
  • 1787-88: James Madison of Virginia, President of the Continental Congress
    • As Quebec revolts, Madison calls General Montgomery to aid the USA. Montgomery’s ego leads to:
  • 1788-89: Richard Montgomery of New York; Dictator of the United States of America
    • Montgomery’s reign is short; he has little support and self-exiles. Quebec does declare independence
  • Election of 1790: Thomas Jefferson (VA) vs John Adams (MA) vs Alexander Hamilton (NY)
    • In the first free election, democratic Jefferson wins a 3-year term
  • 1790-93: President Thomas Jefferson (VA) / John Adams (MA)
    • Jefferson gets a Bill of Rights passed despite Adams’ scheming; Adams is pressed out
  • Election of 1793: President Thomas Jefferson (VA) / Senator Aaron Burr (NY-Republican) vs Ex-VP John Adams (MA-Federalist) / Senator Thomas Pinckney (SC-Federalist)
    • Parties form on the issues of foreign policy, human rights, and government power
  • 1793-96: President Thomas Jefferson (VA-Republican) / Vice President Aaron Burr (NY-Republican)
    • 1794-1795: Aaron Burr (NY-Republican); President of the Northwest Republic
      • Burr, sidelined by Jefferson for his treachery, fails to establish a new country in the NW Territory
    • Jefferson keeps the US neutral as war erupts between France and Britain
  • Election of 1796: Senator James Madison (VA-Jeffersonian) / Governor George Clinton (NY-Jeffersonian) vs Senator Alexander Hamilton (NY-F) / Senator Thomas Pinckney (SC-F)
    • Madison wins on Jefferson’s coattails despite Hamilton's best efforts
  • 1796-99: President James Madison (VA-J) / Vice President George Clinton (NY-J)
    • Madison fails to prevent Britain from taking back Labrador from Quebec
  • Election of 1799: Senator Thomas Pinckney (SC-F) / Governor Alexander Hamilton (NY-F) vs President James Madison (VA-J) / Vice President George Clinton (NY-J)
    • Pinckney accidentally gets first place due to Adams’ scheming. Hamilton, with the aid of General Benedict Arnold, force Pinckney to decline and Hamilton is declared the winner.
  • 1800-01: President Alexander Hamilton (NY-F)
    • Hamilton rules as a dictator but fails to hold onto power; he is deposed by the Virginian Clique of planters and unintentionally killed (a la Pompey)
  • 1801: President Thomas Pinckney (SC-F) / Vice President George Clinton (NY-J)
    • Pinckney is given power, as the rightful winner. But he's not much better than Hamilton in the Virginians’ minds and is deposed.
  • 1801-02: President George Clinton (NY-J)
    • Clinton completes the term in office. Notably, he buys Louisiana from the French.
  • Election of 1802: Senator James Monroe (VA-J) / Ex-VP Aaron Burr (NY-J) vs. Governor John Adams (MA-F) / Senator Charles Pinckney (SC-F)
    • Monroe teams up with Burr (whose politicking makes up for his exile) and wins against the stained Federalists
  • 1802-03: President James Monroe (VA-J) / Vice President Aaron Burr (NY-J)
    • Monroe is swept into disaster with the Francophone invasions; he is unpopular with the Federalist Congress for his proposed Amendments.
  • 1803: President Aaron Burr (NY-F) / Vice President John Adams (MA-F)
    • Burr signs a deal with the Federalists and Monroe is ‘impeached.’ Burr leads the US army to battle and is soundly trounced; he is not invited back to power
  • 1804-08: President John Adams (MA-F)
    • Adams, president at last, defeats the Union’s enemies and passes a series of constitutional amendments to increase the president’s power. He is forced to agree to Louisiana’s independence, however, and resigns in disgrace
  • Election of 1808: Senator Charles Pinckney (SC-F)
    • Pinckney (the brother of the last one) wins in an uncontested election. Burr is invited back as his VP by Congress.
  • 1808-12: President Charles Pinckney (SC-F) / Vice President Aaron Burr (NY-F)
    • Pinckney overseas a relatively peaceful period, except for Burr getting his leg blown off by the British in Florida.
  • Election of 1812: Vice President Aaron Burr (NY) / General Benedict Arnold (CT-F) vs President James Monroe (VA-J) / Governor De Witt Clinton (NY-J)
    • Burr finally wins on his own against Monroe! This pisses off the Virginians, who rebel.
  • 1812-13: President Aaron Burr (NY-F) / Vice President Benedict Arnold (CT-F)
    • Burr and Arnold fight against the rebelling Virginians and are defeated in battle.
  • 1813-16: President James Monroe (VA-J) / Vice President De Witt Clinton (NY-J)
    • Monroe and Clinton are given power by the Virginia Junto. This is an unpopular move in the North, which threatens rebellion
  • Election of 1816: President Aaron Burr (VA-Union) / President James Monroe (VA-Union)
    • With Mexico and Britain preparing invasion, Burr and Monroe overcome their differences and agree to fight off the invaders together, finally combining North and South.
  • 1816-18: President Aaron Burr (VA-Union) / Vice President James Monroe (VA-Union)
    • Burr, leading the Union armies in person, is again trounced in battle unheroically.
  • 1818-19: President James Monroe (VA-J)
    • Monroe negotiates the peace treaty, then resigns in disgrace
  • 1819-20: President James Madison (VA-J)
    • Madison, appointed by Congress, oversees an interim period.
  • Election of 1820: Senator Andrew Jackson (FR-J) / Governor Henry Lee IV (VA-J) vs Senator Henry Clay (KT-J) / Senator Charles Pinckney II (SC-J) vs Senator John Quincy Adams (MA-F) / Senator Nathan Sanford (NY-F)
    • In a three-way election, General Jackson (one of the few men with good military records) wins against rivals.
  • 1820-24: President Andrew Jackson (FR-J) / Vice President Henry Lee IV (VA-J)
    • Jackson manages to stamp out all the various crises confronting the US (epidemics, debts, revolts, slavery-debates). He declines to run again.
  • Election of 1824: Vice President Henry Lee IV (VA-Democratic) / Senator Henry Clay (KT-Democratic) vs Ex-President Aaron Burr (NY-F) / Senator John Quincy Adams (MA-F)
    • Henry Lee IV wins on Jackson’s coattails, though Burr conspires with the Essex Junto and organizes a rebellion.
  • 1824-27: President Henry Lee IV (VA-D) / Vice President Henry Clay (KT-D)
    • Lee, split on many issues with Jackson and Clay, fails to get support to squash Aaron Burr’s rebellion. He resigns in frustration. The last powerful Virginian; western states are now the center of the Democratic Party.
  • 1827-28: President Henry Clay (KT-D)
    • Clay negotiates a deal with Burr and focuses on building domestic infrastructure.
  • Election of 1828: President Henry Clay (KT-D) / Senator John C Calhoun (SC-D) vs Ex-President Aaron Burr (NY-F) / Senator John Quincy Adams (MA-F)
    • Clay is reasonably popular and wins against Burr, who’s growing old
  • 1828: President Henry Clay (KT-D) / Vice President John C Calhoun (SC-D)
    • Burr rebels, defeats Clay in the Battle of Columbus (the Virginians don't support Clay, who's from Kentucky) and marches his armies onto the national capital
  • 1828-29: Dictator Aaron Burr (NY-F)
    • The elderly Burr makes his last act to ban slavery, but rebels tear up the order and have him exiled. Shortly thereafter, he dies.
  • 1829-32: President Henry Clay (KT-D) / Vice President John C Calhoun (SC-D)
    • Clay is returned to power, though fails to find compromise on the slavery question, which Burr ignited
  • Election of 1832: Senator John C Calhoun (SC-D) / Senator William Henry Harrison (OH-D) vs Governor John Quincy Adams (MA-Freedom) / Senator John Sergeant (PA-Freedom)
    • The issue of slavery is at the forefront; the Freedom Party loses
  • 1832-36: President John C Calhoun (SC-D) / Vice President William Henry Harrison (OH-D)
    • 1832-35: President John Quincy Adams (MA-Freedom) / Vice President John Sergeant (PA-Freedom); the Federation of the United States – Boston.
    • The American Civil War, between Calhoun and John Quincy Adams, results in the defeat of the North, the destruction of much of the country, and the prolongment of slavery.
  • Election of 1836: President John C Calhoun (SC-D) / Vice President William Henry Harrison (OH-D) vs Ex-President Henry Clay (KT-National) / Senator John Tyler (VA-National)
    • Clay runs in the hope of negotiating a just peace and rebuilding the nation; the south vengefully reelects Calhoun
  • 1836-39: President John C Calhoun (SC-D) / Vice President William Henry Harrison (OH-D)
    • With the nation split and destroyed, Calhoun and his slavers are unable to defeat the invasion of Great Britain.
  • 1839-??: Sir Charles Metcalfe, Baron of Metcalfe, Governor-General of the Province of North America of the Empire of Great Britain
    • Calhoun surrenders, though rebels continue in the west. Slavery is outlawed and a colonial government is put in charge. However, the British control is tenuous and can be displaced.
(see if you can spot the parallels to Mexico)

I feel like the British will dragged themselves in a forever mess in North America and leave as soon as they enter.

In OTL, the British gave up any attempts on retaking the US since the end of the Revolution and got far more with trade and business with the USA. (And the hope the Union would stay as land power.) Yes, this is an OTL, but marching into the Union and setting up an Domomion is an disaster in the making, and distracted them from their real interests. (With the British acting as the prefect symbol of uniting the defeated Americans to fight against.)
 
MONTGOMERY USA
Sidewise through the dimensions, American democracy started off on a bad foot. General Montgomery, the conqueror of the north (in OTL he was shot by a cannon) takes the place of Commander in Chief George Washington, who valiantly sacrificed his life in the Battle of Brandywine. Montgomery has less faith in republicanism than Washington, and when the fateful opportunity of crisis comes, proclaims himself Dictator of America. He is shortly thereafter deposed, but despite President Jefferson's best efforts, Montgomery's example lives on. Presidential elections, when they do happen, are more often won by the man with the most bayonets than the man with the most votes. Two great powers--the Virginian Clique of elite planters and the Essex Junto of rich merchants--compete for political power. Dictators and demagogues are more frequent than honest men.
With a divided domestic politics, the United States is prey to hostile outsiders. The British Empire aims to reconquer its orphaned colonies, while the many Francophones of the continent aim to displace American power. Meanwhile, the thundering mammoth of Mexico begins its quest for conquest, looking to the north.

View attachment 714896

Here are the list of American leaders:

Leaders of the United States

  • 1776-77: George Washington of Virginia; Commander-in-Chief of the Continental Army (KIA)
  • 1777-87: Richard Montgomery of New York; Commander-in-Chief of the Continental Army
  • 1787-88: James Madison of Virginia, President of the Continental Congress
    • As Quebec revolts, Madison calls General Montgomery to aid the USA. Montgomery’s ego leads to:
  • 1788-89: Richard Montgomery of New York; Dictator of the United States of America
    • Montgomery’s reign is short; he has little support and self-exiles. Quebec does declare independence
  • Election of 1790: Thomas Jefferson (VA) vs John Adams (MA) vs Alexander Hamilton (NY)
    • In the first free election, democratic Jefferson wins a 3-year term
  • 1790-93: President Thomas Jefferson (VA) / John Adams (MA)
    • Jefferson gets a Bill of Rights passed despite Adams’ scheming; Adams is pressed out
  • Election of 1793: President Thomas Jefferson (VA) / Senator Aaron Burr (NY-Republican) vs Ex-VP John Adams (MA-Federalist) / Senator Thomas Pinckney (SC-Federalist)
    • Parties form on the issues of foreign policy, human rights, and government power
  • 1793-96: President Thomas Jefferson (VA-Republican) / Vice President Aaron Burr (NY-Republican)
    • 1794-1795: Aaron Burr (NY-Republican); President of the Northwest Republic
      • Burr, sidelined by Jefferson for his treachery, fails to establish a new country in the NW Territory
    • Jefferson keeps the US neutral as war erupts between France and Britain
  • Election of 1796: Senator James Madison (VA-Jeffersonian) / Governor George Clinton (NY-Jeffersonian) vs Senator Alexander Hamilton (NY-F) / Senator Thomas Pinckney (SC-F)
    • Madison wins on Jefferson’s coattails despite Hamilton's best efforts
  • 1796-99: President James Madison (VA-J) / Vice President George Clinton (NY-J)
    • Madison fails to prevent Britain from taking back Labrador from Quebec
  • Election of 1799: Senator Thomas Pinckney (SC-F) / Governor Alexander Hamilton (NY-F) vs President James Madison (VA-J) / Vice President George Clinton (NY-J)
    • Pinckney accidentally gets first place due to Adams’ scheming. Hamilton, with the aid of General Benedict Arnold, force Pinckney to decline and Hamilton is declared the winner.
  • 1800-01: President Alexander Hamilton (NY-F)
    • Hamilton rules as a dictator but fails to hold onto power; he is deposed by the Virginian Clique of planters and unintentionally killed (a la Pompey)
  • 1801: President Thomas Pinckney (SC-F) / Vice President George Clinton (NY-J)
    • Pinckney is given power, as the rightful winner. But he's not much better than Hamilton in the Virginians’ minds and is deposed.
  • 1801-02: President George Clinton (NY-J)
    • Clinton completes the term in office. Notably, he buys Louisiana from the French.
  • Election of 1802: Senator James Monroe (VA-J) / Ex-VP Aaron Burr (NY-J) vs. Governor John Adams (MA-F) / Senator Charles Pinckney (SC-F)
    • Monroe teams up with Burr (whose politicking makes up for his exile) and wins against the stained Federalists
  • 1802-03: President James Monroe (VA-J) / Vice President Aaron Burr (NY-J)
    • Monroe is swept into disaster with the Francophone invasions; he is unpopular with the Federalist Congress for his proposed Amendments.
  • 1803: President Aaron Burr (NY-F) / Vice President John Adams (MA-F)
    • Burr signs a deal with the Federalists and Monroe is ‘impeached.’ Burr leads the US army to battle and is soundly trounced; he is not invited back to power
  • 1804-08: President John Adams (MA-F)
    • Adams, president at last, defeats the Union’s enemies and passes a series of constitutional amendments to increase the president’s power. He is forced to agree to Louisiana’s independence, however, and resigns in disgrace
  • Election of 1808: Senator Charles Pinckney (SC-F)
    • Pinckney (the brother of the last one) wins in an uncontested election. Burr is invited back as his VP by Congress.
  • 1808-12: President Charles Pinckney (SC-F) / Vice President Aaron Burr (NY-F)
    • Pinckney overseas a relatively peaceful period, except for Burr getting his leg blown off by the British in Florida.
  • Election of 1812: Vice President Aaron Burr (NY) / General Benedict Arnold (CT-F) vs President James Monroe (VA-J) / Governor De Witt Clinton (NY-J)
    • Burr finally wins on his own against Monroe! This pisses off the Virginians, who rebel.
  • 1812-13: President Aaron Burr (NY-F) / Vice President Benedict Arnold (CT-F)
    • Burr and Arnold fight against the rebelling Virginians and are defeated in battle.
  • 1813-16: President James Monroe (VA-J) / Vice President De Witt Clinton (NY-J)
    • Monroe and Clinton are given power by the Virginia Junto. This is an unpopular move in the North, which threatens rebellion
  • Election of 1816: President Aaron Burr (VA-Union) / President James Monroe (VA-Union)
    • With Mexico and Britain preparing invasion, Burr and Monroe overcome their differences and agree to fight off the invaders together, finally combining North and South.
  • 1816-18: President Aaron Burr (VA-Union) / Vice President James Monroe (VA-Union)
    • Burr, leading the Union armies in person, is again trounced in battle unheroically.
  • 1818-19: President James Monroe (VA-J)
    • Monroe negotiates the peace treaty, then resigns in disgrace
  • 1819-20: President James Madison (VA-J)
    • Madison, appointed by Congress, oversees an interim period.
  • Election of 1820: Senator Andrew Jackson (FR-J) / Governor Henry Lee IV (VA-J) vs Senator Henry Clay (KT-J) / Senator Charles Pinckney II (SC-J) vs Senator John Quincy Adams (MA-F) / Senator Nathan Sanford (NY-F)
    • In a three-way election, General Jackson (one of the few men with good military records) wins against rivals.
  • 1820-24: President Andrew Jackson (FR-J) / Vice President Henry Lee IV (VA-J)
    • Jackson manages to stamp out all the various crises confronting the US (epidemics, debts, revolts, slavery-debates). He declines to run again.
  • Election of 1824: Vice President Henry Lee IV (VA-Democratic) / Senator Henry Clay (KT-Democratic) vs Ex-President Aaron Burr (NY-F) / Senator John Quincy Adams (MA-F)
    • Henry Lee IV wins on Jackson’s coattails, though Burr conspires with the Essex Junto and organizes a rebellion.
  • 1824-27: President Henry Lee IV (VA-D) / Vice President Henry Clay (KT-D)
    • Lee, split on many issues with Jackson and Clay, fails to get support to squash Aaron Burr’s rebellion. He resigns in frustration. The last powerful Virginian; western states are now the center of the Democratic Party.
  • 1827-28: President Henry Clay (KT-D)
    • Clay negotiates a deal with Burr and focuses on building domestic infrastructure.
  • Election of 1828: President Henry Clay (KT-D) / Senator John C Calhoun (SC-D) vs Ex-President Aaron Burr (NY-F) / Senator John Quincy Adams (MA-F)
    • Clay is reasonably popular and wins against Burr, who’s growing old
  • 1828: President Henry Clay (KT-D) / Vice President John C Calhoun (SC-D)
    • Burr rebels, defeats Clay in the Battle of Columbus (the Virginians don't support Clay, who's from Kentucky) and marches his armies onto the national capital
  • 1828-29: Dictator Aaron Burr (NY-F)
    • The elderly Burr makes his last act to ban slavery, but rebels tear up the order and have him exiled. Shortly thereafter, he dies.
  • 1829-32: President Henry Clay (KT-D) / Vice President John C Calhoun (SC-D)
    • Clay is returned to power, though fails to find compromise on the slavery question, which Burr ignited
  • Election of 1832: Senator John C Calhoun (SC-D) / Senator William Henry Harrison (OH-D) vs Governor John Quincy Adams (MA-Freedom) / Senator John Sergeant (PA-Freedom)
    • The issue of slavery is at the forefront; the Freedom Party loses
  • 1832-36: President John C Calhoun (SC-D) / Vice President William Henry Harrison (OH-D)
    • 1832-35: President John Quincy Adams (MA-Freedom) / Vice President John Sergeant (PA-Freedom); the Federation of the United States – Boston.
    • The American Civil War, between Calhoun and John Quincy Adams, results in the defeat of the North, the destruction of much of the country, and the prolongment of slavery.
  • Election of 1836: President John C Calhoun (SC-D) / Vice President William Henry Harrison (OH-D) vs Ex-President Henry Clay (KT-National) / Senator John Tyler (VA-National)
    • Clay runs in the hope of negotiating a just peace and rebuilding the nation; the south vengefully reelects Calhoun
  • 1836-39: President John C Calhoun (SC-D) / Vice President William Henry Harrison (OH-D)
    • With the nation split and destroyed, Calhoun and his slavers are unable to defeat the invasion of Great Britain.
  • 1839-??: Sir Charles Metcalfe, Baron of Metcalfe, Governor-General of the Province of North America of the Empire of Great Britain
    • Calhoun surrenders, though rebels continue in the west. Slavery is outlawed and a colonial government is put in charge. However, the British control is tenuous and can be displaced.
(see if you can spot the parallels to Mexico)
Burr is Santa Anna and Monroe is Bustamante. What else? What is Texas? What is Mexican American War?
 
Burr is Santa Anna and Monroe is Bustamante. What else? What is Texas? What is Mexican American War?
Louisiana is a bit of a parallel to Texas, with at first a war for independence, then later gobbled by the stronger neighbor. The Mexican-American War is the American-Mexican War. Then, the French invasion of Mexico --> British re-occupation of America
 
Louisiana is a bit of a parallel to Texas, with at first a war for independence, then later gobbled by the stronger neighbor. The Mexican-American War is the American-Mexican War. Then, the French invasion of Mexico --> British re-occupation of America

I see.

Well, going from that, I can see if the parallels hold, the British will bail on the Americans which would give rise to Porfirio Díaz and the Porfiriato.

After that? Another revolution time boys and girls.
 
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