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With higher sea levels and no ice, Antarctica might be more of a large archipelago, like OTL Indonesia, than a continent. The north/south orientation of this *Antarctic Archipelago will give it a much more varied climate than *Indonesia, perhaps leading to greater diversification and specification amongst it's marsupial population.
Without having been glaciated in the geologically recent past, this Antarctica wouldn't have been depressed by the weight of the ice and so would probably be high enough in elevation not to be broken up, though I guess it depends on just how high sea levels are.
A little shitpost I threw together a little while ago.
The Japanese Reich in the moments before decolonization, Circa 1945.
Once i have access to photoshop again ill make a more detailed version with a legend and fix little things that i have better ideas for now
Just a simple idea I had, a look at Africa in a Kaiserreich cold war timeline.
The Reichspakt was able to hold out until 1945, after which the German government escaped to Africa and joined the Entente. In the following years, the International followed and mopped them up, though not without difficulties. With the new cold war with the Russian Republic, the International struggled to supply a faraway continent-sized campaign, raising objections from some portions of the military and populace (of the less authoritarian member states, like France). After all, the colonial remnants were essentially powerless on the world stage, and resources could be put to better use in opposition to Moscow. On the other hand, Russia and Japan were already beginning to interfere with the continent, and successfully spreading the revolution would be a major ideological victory.
Things got complicated quickly. Before the twice-exiled French government in Dakar even capitulated, rebellions had broken out, notably in the country now called Mali. Not wanting to commit colonization, the International chose not to intervene. Not long after, just as troops entered Kinshasa, the colonial HQ in Dar es Salaam was suddenly overthrown, and Mittelafrika collapsed. Unable and unwilling to just conquer independent territories, the International was forced to switch to less direct tactics of spreading influence.
Ah, yes, Misizibbi. From the timeline when the first European explorer to hear the name of the river was told it by someone with a head cold.
Don't forget about Ailingoi or , as Europe calls it , ''Illinois''.
So more tinkering in the Leveeverse.
I was working last night and had a thought. For context, ITTL, the UK puts Germany "in charge" of the Ottoman Empire. Keep in mind, Germany at this point ITTL is sans the southern states (including Saxony), Bismarck has been sacked, and Frederick III is kaiser, currently working to make Germany a much stronger parliamentary system on par with the UK. German advisors are sent to the Ottoman Empire to help establish order after the embarrassing defeat in the Bulgarian War of Independence (TTL's Russo-Turkish War). Unfortunately nationalist tensions within the Ottoman Empire are far too great for these advisors and the existing Ottoman system to overcome. A hardline politician takes control of the empire, assassinating Sultan Abdul Hamid II, and turning the empire into an incredibly strict Islamic theocracy with incredibly right-wing politics. This causes the dissolution of the empire. Various ethnic groups in the empire split off to form their own independent states. These are the Kurdish Republic, Syria, Lebanon, and the Mamluk Empire. Egypt and Iran both take advantage of the chaos to snatch former Ottoman territory. Meanwhile, an underground movement of left-wing Turks engages in an insurgency in the newly-established Turkish Caliphate.
This is has been true through all the various iterations of the map and my outline. What might change though is the creation of another breakaway state: Saloniki. Basically, Jewish groups in Thessaloniki declare their independence from the empire in the aftermath of the far right takeover, fearing that the religious extremism will surely lead to reprisals against Jews. As such, with Germany's help, they form an independent state centered around Thessaloniki, called Saloniki. In effect, this is a German client state, serving as a bastion of liberalism within the former empire. It comes into frequent conflict with the Turkish Caliphate. Note: I am not 100% sold on this yet. I am very willing to just scrap this idea of an independent Jewish state entirely, but figured I might as well explore it however briefly! Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!
I was working last night and had a thought. For context, ITTL, the UK puts Germany "in charge" of the Ottoman Empire. Keep in mind, Germany at this point ITTL is sans the southern states (including Saxony), Bismarck has been sacked, and Frederick III is kaiser, currently working to make Germany a much stronger parliamentary system on par with the UK. German advisors are sent to the Ottoman Empire to help establish order after the embarrassing defeat in the Bulgarian War of Independence (TTL's Russo-Turkish War). Unfortunately nationalist tensions within the Ottoman Empire are far too great for these advisors and the existing Ottoman system to overcome. A hardline politician takes control of the empire, assassinating Sultan Abdul Hamid II, and turning the empire into an incredibly strict Islamic theocracy with incredibly right-wing politics. This causes the dissolution of the empire. Various ethnic groups in the empire split off to form their own independent states. These are the Kurdish Republic, Syria, Lebanon, and the Mamluk Empire. Egypt and Iran both take advantage of the chaos to snatch former Ottoman territory. Meanwhile, an underground movement of left-wing Turks engages in an insurgency in the newly-established Turkish Caliphate.
This is has been true through all the various iterations of the map and my outline. What might change though is the creation of another breakaway state: Saloniki. Basically, Jewish groups in Thessaloniki declare their independence from the empire in the aftermath of the far right takeover, fearing that the religious extremism will surely lead to reprisals against Jews. As such, with Germany's help, they form an independent state centered around Thessaloniki, called Saloniki. In effect, this is a German client state, serving as a bastion of liberalism within the former empire. It comes into frequent conflict with the Turkish Caliphate. Note: I am not 100% sold on this yet. I am very willing to just scrap this idea of an independent Jewish state entirely, but figured I might as well explore it however briefly! Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!
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And here is another VT-BAM.
My attempt to recreate the Kingdom of Mercia (Mierce)
My attempt to recreate the Kingdom of Mercia (Mierce)
Were there even enough slaves (i.e. Mamluks) in Iraq at that point to even form their own state? Local tribal elites were still very powerful and the slave trade was in decline by then. Incidentally, most slaves in Iraq were black/obviously mixed-race so that's a Zanj Rebellion pt. 2.
Most of that Jewish state isn't Jewish (even the cities and towns weren't too Jewish outside of Saloniki and certain parts of Constantinople and Jews are very much a minority), and Russia and Greece would never allow Mt. Athos to be controlled by Jews. Greece and Bulgaria would fight over the region, or it would just be its own independent state, I mean I could vaguely see idealistic Western Europeans trying to make a multiethnic principality/kingdom of "Macedonia" or "Thrace" in that region, especially if it's to keep it separate from Greece, Bulgaria, and Turkey.
This doesn't make any sense, given Ottoman politics at the time.
Kurdish nationalism was quite weak in this time period. Iran is too weak to take advantage of an Ottoman collapse. Gulf Coast was already under British influence and in the event of an Ottoman collapse Iraq would under British Influence as well. Crete should go to Greece. Lebanon only came about as a result of French colonization, without it there would no independent Lebanon especially one that big. An independent and strong Egypt would be able to take the Levant without European interference in the event of an Ottoman collapse.
Jewish community is too small, weak, and uninterested in an Independent Jewish Thessaloniki
Mamluks were already crushed since 1831 and were made up Caucasians.
Hmm... Blue-y frontier. I don't know what you're referring to. In the middle of the continent there is New-France which has rebel activity in the north (indicated by pink outline). west of that is Chistiania, Mexico and Nelson.
POD: House of Habsburg dies out and the line goes to the Bavarian Wittelsbachs c. ~1760. France successfully becomes a constitutional monarchy and expands ala the Revolutionary Wars hoping to be crowned Holy Roman Emperor replacing the Wittelsbachs. This leads to a new Europe after years of conflict and prevents the unanimous ascendancy of any power or the rise of agglomerate nationalism in Italy and Germany . Russia undergoes a revolution like the French Revolution as a result of a Decembrist Revolt gone to far and spreads their ideology to Poland, the Baltics, Prussia, and other states. From there, history spirals away.
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That's a really beautiful map. A few questions:
POD: House of Habsburg dies out and the line goes to the Bavarian Wittelsbachs c. ~1760. France successfully becomes a constitutional monarchy and expands ala the Revolutionary Wars hoping to be crowned Holy Roman Emperor replacing the Wittelsbachs. This leads to a new Europe after years of conflict and prevents the unanimous ascendancy of any power or the rise of agglomerate nationalism in Italy and Germany . Russia undergoes a revolution like the French Revolution as a result of a Decembrist Revolt gone to far and spreads their ideology to Poland, the Baltics, Prussia, and other states. From there, history spirals away.
- Why is Indonesia balkanized so heavily? Collapse after a colonial withdrawal or no colonization in the first place?
- What's going on South Africa? It looks like it has the Apartheid color.
- What year is this?
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