Perhaps sometime in the future when I figure out how to make wikiboxes and Coats of Arms. Right now I'm working on a sequel to my War of Austrian Succession map.
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With the emphasis placed on Catholicism by later monarchs, how are non-Catholics within the empire treated? Particularly Protestants, considering how many would live within the empire and the fact that many of the German realms would have Protestant monarchs. The Jews would also be interesting to consider given that Napoleon was a significant liberator of the Jews to the point of anti-Semites calling him the Antichrist for this.
While the Emperor and the government favours its Catholic subjects, the Fundamental Laws of the Empire of the Romans guarantees to every individual the freedom to practice their own religion in peace (e.g. If a Catholic community wants to build a church, they could get government funding for it, but Protestants building a church or Muslims building a mosque would have to pay for it out of their own pocket, and other policies like this). This is especially important because the Empire would have large numbers of Muslim subjects also in Egypt and the Levant. Despite this, the Emperors have sunk significant funding into peaceful conversion and missionary activities, particularly in Africa, India, and the Holy Land, as well as granting financial incentives to converts, such as tax breaks, subsidies for Catholic businesses, easier to achieve high government post, etc.
How extensive would the empire’s holdings in India be, and how far north do their Levantine territories go? Are there any significant African territories that you can think of aside from Egypt?
Also, for the sake of clarity, is the map set in the present day? If so was there any sort of decolonization?
Paphlagonia - Argentina's future province?
This map depicts how changes brought on by climate change may make the Antarctic Peninsula, also known as the Palmer Peninsula, habitable for large-scale civilian colonization.
Paphlagonia can be broadly split between the northern and southern lands, named Saint Martin Land and Taylor-Joy land respectively; divided at the Revelle inlet and Wordie Bay. Saint Martin Land resembles the northern stretches of current-day Norway in climate, the snow which previously covered Antarctica's rocky cliffs are here relegated to the inland mountain chain. This is the warmest and most populated part of Paphlagonia. Taylor-Joy land is much more frigid; more comparable to modern-day northern Canada. A few large ice sheets are still precariously present here. Only the mineral resources of the interior make permanent habitation economically viable.
The export of raw resources, such as uranium, Iron and Lithium, makes up the bulk of the province's economy. A few train lines dot the interior of the province; passenger rail in the north and freight rail in the south.
Nice! Although I will admit the name made my brain go here.
The Empire's holdings in India and Sub-Saharan Africa are quite limited. In India, it would be mostly present-day Kerala and some surrounding territories, plus the scattered cities they had OTL. In Africa, TTL did not see large scale division and colonisation by the European powers. They were mostly content with some direct rule along the coasts, indirect rule of the coastal adjacent states, and trade with the interior. Most of the missionary work funded by the HRE takes place outside of the HRE itself, usually in various native African and Indian states. Their Levantine territories would include all of present day Israel, Palestine, Jordan and Lebanon, along with parts of OTL Syria adjacent to Lebanon, along with a coastal exclave around Antioch.
The map is set around late 90s/early 2000s. There was not much in the way of decolonisation TTL, because there was not much in the way of directly controlled territory. Most of that was around the Mediterranean and coastal Africa/India, these territories were integrated pretty well into the metropole, while the states under indirect rule remain vassals, some officially and some unofficially, as those are relatively inexpensive to maintain.
What is this? An FHTL of some kind?So I was looking at the map I posted back on page 383, and I noticed a couple of errors. So here is a fixed version that also adds a couple of notes to explain details on the global situation.
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It's a cover of a scenario by a DeviantArtist where the COVID pandemic is worse and leads to civil wars in both China and the US.
[statement that would get me consigned to chat].
Very interesting POD. What’s Bosnia like? Does Republika Srpska still exist? Did the Croats manage to push for the creation of their own entity? What’s up in there generally.
How integrated is the e EAF?
Which states on this map aren’t internationally recognized?
Did Serbia march back into Kosovo as soon as the US collapsed? Did Britain or the EU react? Did Russia directly support it? Indirectly? Or not at all?
qazse
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Bosnia is just coasting along and is more-or-less the same as always. EDIT: I'd better add that they're in the European sphere of influence.
As integrated as the pre-COVID United States.
Several of the Chinese statelets, the German Democratic State and the ISWA.
They marched back into Kosovo following the collapse of NATO. Britain and the EU issued diplomatic condemnations, but that was all. Russia supplied equipment to the Serbian army, but that was all.
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Poor thing. I’m honestly a big fan of 3 entity Bosnias which is part of why I asked, though the main reason was not seeing Republika Srpska on the map so I wondered if it had been abolished.
Damn. Which country ended up dominating and how democratic is it (IIRC Rwanda is far less democratic than, say, Tanzania so how did that end up going during unification?)
What about the Russian puppets in Georgia, recent Russian annexations, especially the Baltics, or even the Serbian reintegration of Kosovo? Does the UN recognize those? Are there countries that don’t recognize some of those?
A great victory for Serbia. I imagine whatever leader did that has a very easy time getting re-elected. What ended up happening with the Albanians in kosovo? Are they still there, and if they are do they have full rights, is there military resistance, secessionist political parties, how much autonomy do they have, etc?
Naturally I don’t necessarily expect you to have an answer to all of this.
And grey: Busy colonizing space and quietly paying for the International Fleet so they will be on their side if another conflict ever comes
I really like this. I’m a big fan of the Enderverse and the shadow sub-series (excluding the final novel, what a joke)
I actually made a gif series of maybe 15 slides showing the expansion of the FPE maybe 5 years ago and posted it. Your map is a lot better though and much more artistic then a sloppy worlda.
Card’s in universe world building certainly has some holes. Like how nothing much has changed in the hundred years from the present leading up to the first formic war except one or two things. Of course, the original novel was written in the 80’s and the war was probably imagined closer to our current present day then the 2115 date they picked when it came time to write the prequels. The prequels also change up the world a lot more to help deal with that, but in ways that are as you mention inconsistent with the original novel, which makes mention of about 2 changes from the present. A big second Warsaw Pact around a renewed Russian empire (Putin’s wet dream I guess) and a united democratic China.
I’m rambling on too much about this series and it’s worldbuilding. Been waiting three years for the conclusion to that prequel trilogy…
Anyways nice map!
qazse
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Ever so slightly Tanzania due to their slightly higher population. The EAU is prone to major political swings due to the differing ideologies of the Tanzanian and Kenyan parties.
A few more UN member states recognise Abkhazia and South Ossetia, but the UN as a whole doesn't. The annexations are not recognised, but Serbia's reintegration of Kosovo has been.
The Albanians in Kosovo are being deported en masse and Serbians moved in to replace them to secure Serbian rule over Kosovo perpetually. There is a little bit of resistance, but with the collapse of NATO Kosovo is effectively at Serbia's mercy.
Ah interesting. Makes sense, especially with, again I think Rwanda's leader, who is quite a skilled politician and has a hugely disproportionate role in the politics of the region right now, eventually probably dying or retiring, it seems reasonable that the bigger countries would simply outweigh Rwanda and Burundi. How involved are they in the Congo? I assume Kivu is their handiwork?
Ah so the UN more or less has its current position, Kosovo is Serbia, Ukraine isn't to be carved up, and Abkhazia and Ossetia are Georgian. When you say Serbia's reintegration of Kosovo has been recognized, I assume you mean by countries that currently recognize Kosovo as an independent state? I imagine there's a "Free Kosova" movement among the Albanian diaspora worldwide akin to "Free Tibet". Is such a movement backed by any countries which consider Kosovo to be "a country under Serbian occupation"? Perhaps not since the likes of Albania would be too scared for their own safety to push that without NATO backing and anyone big enough to do that probably doesn't care about some little Balkan ethnic spats.
Ah so it's the worst case scenario for them. Hmm. Certainly sadly a plausible course of action, though I do kind of want to stress that there is a wide spectrum of Serb opinions between "Kosovo is Serbia" and "We will finish what Milošević started".
However, there is certainly a lot of hate between the groups and many Serbs do wonder what happens to their country when it takes in so many voters that see it as an enemy, so the latter isn't exactly a fringe opinion. There is even just among some a vague desire for the Albanians to cease to be there without any direct desire to ethnically cleanse and just hoping the issue will resolve itself "somehow", so some such people could be the sorts to denounce deportation but do nothing about it.
Still, as likely as it is, I'm always sad to see that prevail in ATLs rather than the "let them have their autonomy in a multiethnic Serbia", which really isn't that uncommon, especially with a COVID-era POD which MIGHT mean Serbia re-enters the province before any of the recent escalations happened. Though I still think that similar escalations in violence might instead still happen and in fact be the nominal catalyst for war, meaning the Serbs would be coming in pumped up on vendetta, though they could also not happen because the kosovars aren't likely to be as ballsy without the US backing them. This isn't me saying you should change the lore, it's 100% a plausible scenario, just musings. In short, damn that's cursed but very plausible with sprinklings of a desire to mention that such aspirations aren't universal.
Out of curiosity, WHO is the president that reintegrates Kosovo? The idea of someone as milquetoast as Vučić being "the great president who leads his country to a final resounding victory in the Kosovo dispute" and revered by crazy macho nationalists for generations to come is hilarious. Not implausible, the man knows what buys him votes, that's why he has such aggressive rhetoric on the Kosovo issue, it's just funny. I don't really see anyone else getting elected given the POD so I guess a big win for the SNS.
This is super specific but I do have to wonder who exactly Serbia is resettling Kosovo with, I mean, the region is poor as shit, even when they're in power there, the Albanians are still leaving en masse. A good chunk of Serbs that have fled Kosovo since the 90s have set up pretty comfortable lives in central Serbia, they might be disinclined to go back. Very patriotic diaspora "re-emigree" types, called Povratniks I think, and local patriots and nationalists could certainly be eager to move, and of course perhaps the homeless or poor or something like that.
What did NATO collapse over?
How did the German Democratic State emerge?
qazse
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Actually, Kivu was granted independence by the DRC, who wished to jettison the most difficult-to-govern parts of their country.
Yeah, pretty much.
I can't really say since my knowledge of Serbian politics is next to nothing.
It collapsed alongside the United States.
Following Germany and its allies' defeat in the Baltic War, the discredited German government collapsed and the nation fell into civil war. The National Democratic Party, with the aid of neo-Nazi forces in eastern Germany, was able to launch a successful Nazi rebellion that overran the entirety of the former GDR, plus West Berlin. After a ceasefire was signed the GDS was able to consolidate its holdings, and have begun building a modernised version of Hitler's Reich.
Year: Literally 1984
Situation: Everything is fine in all corners of the World
Status of Freedom and Equality: Granted to most of the people but some People have more freedom and equality than others
PS: Kaiser is watching you so don't do anything bad
Situation: Everything is fine in all corners of the World
Status of Freedom and Equality: Granted to most of the people but some People have more freedom and equality than others
PS: Kaiser is watching you so don't do anything bad
A Map of the European Social Union
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Hi alternatehistory.com this is a map cover that I made based on a self interpretation of the map/scenario "Years of Shawarma" by MrImperatorRoma mostly because I really liked the scenario plus he was kind enough to allow me the permissions to make this map (I recommend everyone to go look his map now, as it also has basically most of the lore both in the description and in the map (minus self interpretations I had to make for unnamed nations on that map)).
I made this also based on a rejected proposal for the French departments, the Chassis Figuratif as I feel like those fit really well on a radical, obsessed with rationality, and zealously anti-chauvinist revolutionary republic.
I really want to thank both MrImperatorRoma for allowing me to make this map from his scenario in the first place and Pr_Quantum/Votre Idéolinguiste Local for helping me with nearly all the French in this map as I don't speak it at all, without them this map wouldn't be possible. Also Special thanks to Roxypoots, "Larry", ajw20_YT for helping me and doing me a favor while I was making the map
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Hi alternatehistory.com this is a map cover that I made based on a self interpretation of the map/scenario "Years of Shawarma" by MrImperatorRoma mostly because I really liked the scenario plus he was kind enough to allow me the permissions to make this map (I recommend everyone to go look his map now, as it also has basically most of the lore both in the description and in the map (minus self interpretations I had to make for unnamed nations on that map)).
I made this also based on a rejected proposal for the French departments, the Chassis Figuratif as I feel like those fit really well on a radical, obsessed with rationality, and zealously anti-chauvinist revolutionary republic.
I really want to thank both MrImperatorRoma for allowing me to make this map from his scenario in the first place and Pr_Quantum/Votre Idéolinguiste Local for helping me with nearly all the French in this map as I don't speak it at all, without them this map wouldn't be possible. Also Special thanks to Roxypoots, "Larry", ajw20_YT for helping me and doing me a favor while I was making the map
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A Map of the European Social Union
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Hi alternatehistory.com this is a map cover that I made based on a self interpretation of the map/scenario "Years of Shawarma" by MrImperatorRoma mostly because I really liked the scenario plus he was kind enough to allow me the permissions to make this map (I recommend everyone to go look his map now, as it also has basically most of the lore both in the description and in the map (minus self interpretations I had to make for unnamed nations on that map)).
I made this also based on a rejected proposal for the French departments, the Chassis Figuratif as I feel like those fit really well on a radical, obsessed with rationality, and zealously anti-chauvinist revolutionary republic.
I really want to thank both MrImperatorRoma for allowing me to make this map from his scenario in the first place and Pr_Quantum/Votre Idéolinguiste Local for helping me with nearly all the French in this map as I don't speak it at all, without them this map wouldn't be possible. Also Special thanks to roxypoots, "Larry", ajw20_YT for helping me and doing me a favor while I was making the
Funny enough Imagined the butterflied version of Robespierre to never rise to the same amount power as otl and instead be Danton the one to lead the state during it's early days
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