I did think of that, but historically the Sassanids never really deported people for them to be majority wherever they ended up, and the constant Muslim threat to the west for nearly a thousand years would have pretty much put a stop to such things on the frontier in my opinion.
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46/10, not enough Iran.1800 Years of Sassanid UnityThe lore is basically the Sassanids manage to barely hold on under competent military leadership against the Rashidun Invasion whilst the Byzantines suffer the Sassanid fate of our timeline, falling to the Arabs. The end result is that Sassanid Iran is still majority Zoroastrian (with noticeable Christian, Jewish, Tengri and Buddhist minorities), Central Asia is still majority Tengri and Buddhist and Islam is never a dominant force in India, though through Arabian trade, it still reaches down south into Africa and even convert some parts of coastal Sumatra to Islam. Basically all of the Roman Empire barring Britain within those on the European continent are Muslims whilst Britain, Ireland and western Germany are the last bastions of Christianity. Scandinavia and eastern germany still follows the Pagan Nordic/Germanic Pagan faith whilst the Kievan Rus converted to Islam in this world. Basically the entire history of the world is different.
In this backdrop, in this timeline's 2024 AD, the Sassanids are celebrating 1800 years of dynastic unity and prosperity and stability between all religious and cultural groups.
Thoughts?
1800 Years of Sassanid UnityThe lore is basically the Sassanids manage to barely hold on under competent military leadership against the Rashidun Invasion whilst the Byzantines suffer the Sassanid fate of our timeline, falling to the Arabs. The end result is that Sassanid Iran is still majority Zoroastrian (with noticeable Christian, Jewish, Tengri and Buddhist minorities), Central Asia is still majority Tengri and Buddhist and Islam is never a dominant force in India, though through Arabian trade, it still reaches down south into Africa and even convert some parts of coastal Sumatra to Islam. Basically all of the Roman Empire barring Britain within those on the European continent are Muslims whilst Britain, Ireland and western Germany are the last bastions of Christianity. Scandinavia and eastern germany still follows the Pagan Nordic/Germanic Pagan faith whilst the Kievan Rus converted to Islam in this world. Basically the entire history of the world is different.
In this backdrop, in this timeline's 2024 AD, the Sassanids are celebrating 1800 years of dynastic unity and prosperity and stability between all religious and cultural groups.
Thoughts?
This is what I've been waiting for...thank you, good sir, and bravo!
Decisive Sasanid Victory!
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This has made me realize the need for a Political/Current Politics Map Thread in Chat; has anyone tried this idea before?
Not as such.
There is a "Political Map" thread, but it is pretty much only for heat maps of U.S. elections.
It has been inactive for 6 months, however.
To be fair I’m not sure how much of a need there is for “current politics maps,” seeing as until recently there haven’t really been many map changes or even major potential map changes that necessarily implicate current events, whereas with wikiboxes there are always new elections, political figures, etc.
This may be a stretch but perhaps there should just be a “Current Politics Graphics Thread” for any graphics (maps, wikiboxes, etc.)?
The "current politics maps" issues stems from maps about, say, a future dismemberment of Russia after the Ukrainian war spiraled out of control or some such.
I would love if this sort of thread were to be made...but maybe not just political stuff? e.g., if we wanted to post a cool ethnic map or something along those lines.
Ngl but I kinda want to see what the rest of the world looks like especially the new relationship between Europe and dar-islam because damn the butterflies be flapping.
It could be anything tbh, given how far back the POD is.
Historical examples of a friendly relationship between sociocultural kin could be the transatlantic one today. An example of an indifferent relationship would be India and much of maritime SE Asia. And the hostile one would be China and other former sinosphere states, think Vietnam or Japan.
I meant more along the lines of Dar-Islam being centered around the Mediterranean. At that point I think it be impossible for the Christian/pagan and Islamic worlds to be truly distinct and separate like OTL. This new Islamic world is going to have at the very least the entirety of the Byzantine empire plus much of Ilirya and Italy
The Empire of Romania
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In the 7th century, the Arab invasions still occur. However, it has more resemblance to the Great Migration of the 4th century, and though the Arabian tribes were united under a confederacy, there was no Islamic element, since the religion never came to being. Overtime, as land were conquered from the Byzantines and Persians, the various Arab tribes broke up and formed their own states. Due to there being no Islam, Arabization never catched on as much as it did OTL. Instead, the various Arab kingdoms converted to various religions, from Orthodox Christianity, to Zoroastrianism. Also, migration from the Arabian Peninsula were less intense, thus resultingly the peninsula is more populated and developed here.
Fast forward to the 20th century, the Magyar Empire of the Romans stands dominant in the Middle East. Its main rival is the Turkic Zoroastrian Gerayid Empire, In case it's not clear, the Magyars here never settled in Pannonia, but in Thrace, conquered from the Byzantines. Thus, Hungary ITTL is Slavic. They also converted to Orthodox Christianity instead of Catholicism. Speaking of Orthodoxy, in this world the religion is more widespread, with the two Romanias and also Japan being the Orthodox world powers (if you are rather knowledgeable about internet alternate history, it should be obvious what I am inspired by). The world is less European-dominated than it is OTL, with major Asian and African countries being regional and even world powers. Besides it allies in the League of Five Emperors, the only European country Romania could be said to being close with is the Holy Roman Empire, and even then their relationship is tenuous, due to the whole "legacy of the Romans" thing (though in the past years they have somewhat compromised on it). The Empire of the Eastern Romans is basically a Malay-speaking equivalent of the Romanians, but their culture now somewhat resembles those of the Magyars and Greeks due to centuries of colonization and the Orthodox faith. Besides those shown on the map, Romania has other colonial possessions on the Pacific Ocean, Africa, and even the Caribbean.
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Frustrated with my perpetual paucity of progress on projects persisting past one day (look through the WIP thread at all the things I'm working on but can't seem to finish), I resolved to take a map I had once started about a more successful Indian War of Independence and finish it in one day. It didn't happen in quite that time but at least I can now present it to you here...
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This map depicts a world where the Indian Rebellion/War of Independence/Mutiny was more (though not entirely) successful, preserving the Mughals in truncated form alongside its fellow gunpowder empires in Iran and Turkey (and incidentally collapsing much of British power for the next generation).
Almost ninety years later, the world is fighting a second world war, pitting a modernized & disgruntled Japan and Austria-Hungary (taking Libya in WW1 created a great opportunity for deporting dissidents) in alliance with a revenge-craving France against much of the rest of the world, a clash that will determine much of coming human history.
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This map depicts a world where the Indian Rebellion/War of Independence/Mutiny was more (though not entirely) successful, preserving the Mughals in truncated form alongside its fellow gunpowder empires in Iran and Turkey (and incidentally collapsing much of British power for the next generation).
Almost ninety years later, the world is fighting a second world war, pitting a modernized & disgruntled Japan and Austria-Hungary (taking Libya in WW1 created a great opportunity for deporting dissidents) in alliance with a revenge-craving France against much of the rest of the world, a clash that will determine much of coming human history.
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Is it not better placed in the OTL map thread? There are more maps like this one there.
I made a map that was basically that, although it actually combined the colors of the Paradox maps (EU4 and Victoria II) with the use of national flag colors for "colorless" countries (IIRC at least Ireland, India, Israel, Pakistan and Ukraine use colors taken from their national flags). I don't know if that's what you're looking for though.
I honestly don't understand where some of the colors came from. I am thinking, for example, of the current costume of putting Japan and Russia in various shades of yellow.
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United States becomes Portugal then? This sounds very similar to the 1974 Revolucion dos Cravos in Portugal against Estado NovoMap of the World in 2001
As part of the epilogue for my hiatus/dead timeline CPCW, I made a map showing the "end result" of the world, in 2001.
Democratic Japan helped in the Chinese civil war to get a pro-Japanese democratic faction on top, Indonesia and Malaysia (though fractured) were decolonised peacefully and brought into Japan's sphere, and Korea split amicably through a referendum. Britain succeeded in forming a reduced commonwealth (CANZUK plus a bit more), the USSR had an early soft collapse, the socialist EU analogue spans Eurasia from France to Kamchatka, and India split up in a civil war. The United States is on its second constitution after a bloodless coup overthrew their colonialist government fighting over US Africa (modern Man, Togo, Ubangi, down to Katanga).
For Japan there is the imperial seal (thought there might have been some not so positive stuff from WW2 times that influenced it as well).
Russia is the Tsarist gold, Black-Gold-White were the Romanov colours.
AFAIK there was even a "war" over whether Russia should be green or gold here (general solution seems to have been gold for monarchy, green for republic, thought not always).
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