Map Thread XXI
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The reverse. This takes place in the 24th century.
Earth has... been through a lot.
Besides what bob hope said, here are some relevant threads:historical stuff, Map for "Official" TL's, and the base maps I use currently (credits to Library of Alexandria and Tethys00 for it)
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"While all sides did not exactly got what they wanted from the peace, the treaties that where drawn up following the negotiated peace reflected the outcome of the war very well, since neither party could claim total victory. In Eastern Europe, most of the treaty of Brest-Litovsk was upheld. giving Germany huge sway in the region, it was also hoped that these new states would serve as a buffer against the Russian Bolsheviks. In the West, less radical changes to the border where made. Luxemburg was annexed into Germany and plebiscites where held in Alsace-Loraine leading to minor changes on the Franco-German border. The ailing Habsburg Empire was restructured into a Triple Monarchy, which won out against the idea of turning the empire into a federation. While it lost Istria to the Italians, Montenegro was incorporated into the the Kingdom of Illyria. A plebiscite was held in West Galicia, and it joined the nascent kingdom of Poland. In the Middle-East both France and Britain created mandates for themselves while an Arab kingdom was founded which was nominally tied to the Ottoman Empire. This state of affairs would rapidly change however with the Habsburg Empire being the first piece to fall, hurdling Europe towards an other devastating war."
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So... OTL?
It was the capital of the Crownland of Galicia-Lodomeria and everything.
Are all of those from different scenarios?
I wouldn't call the late Austrian Empire boring. Stress-inducing, yes...
(Who was it that described the Empire's condition as "Fatal, but not serious"? )
A genuine negotiated peace? Tricky, even if you keep the US out of the war. You'd have to bring both sides to the ragged edge of collapse without actually tipping over while also convincing both sides that one more good push wouldn't bring down their opponents...
Wow, thank you so much! Very surreal to see someone do a cover of my maps, especially the old ones I made back in high school. I should apologise for the gratuitous East African subdivisions in the Africa map haha.
Most of the maps on left side (except for the Danube empire map and the Greater South map) come from different iterations of the same timeline which I've been privately developing over time. All the others were one-shots.
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Poseidon's Chosen Nation
The High Kingdom of Atlantis is a nation right off the coast of Europe. Settled by Ancient Greek Colonizers during the Late Bronze Age Era, Atlantis chose Poseidon, his family and Oceanus to be their patron Gods, with the Trident as a symbol and names in honor of these deities being common place. For hundreds of years, Atlantis remained politically fractured, until the rise of the Phoenician City States all across the North African coast. Around 700 BCE, with the rise of the maritime powers of the Mediterranean creating an economic vacuum, the petty king of Tritonopolis, Atlantor I united all of colonized Atlantis, becoming the High King of the united Atlantis. As such, Atlantis is considered in modern times to be the oldest monarchy on the planet, as the House of Atlantor continues to rule Atlantis to this day. This unity of Atlantis was fractured however, as the rivalries between the city states continued even after unification, and the system of allowing the petty kings to retain their positions as autonomous royals created many civil wars in Atlantis. This situation was finally resolved for some centuries when in 138 BCE, when High King Tritonius III The Great managed to exert Royal Authority throughout the borders. The reign of Tritonius III was extremely peaceful and prosperous and this remained the situation in Atlantis until the Romans completed their conquest of Iberia in 19 BC, which saw an influx of Celtic Iberian tribes fleeing from the Roman government into Atlantis. The Celts and Atlanteans had been natural trading partners, with the Celts being Atlantis’s trading gateway to Europe, and the Atlanteans being the resource hub for the Celts. As a result, Atlantis supported Celtic resistance against Rome, until the Romans decided to land an invasion fleet in 2 BCE at the mouth of the Great Thalassan Bay. A standoff ensued for two years until the weak minded King Atlantor V gave into Roman demands and stopped giving Celts the incentive to revolt. The Romans left not soon after, unwilling to stay so long so across treacherous waters.
This cowardice brought with it renewed tensions as anti and pro-Roman factions in Atlantis fought with one another over multiple civil wars. Eventually Christianity also made its way over to Atlantis in around 100 AD, but unlike the other places associated with Ancient Mediterranean, the Atlanteans by and large rejected Christianity, remaining true to the Olympian Pantheon – which in Atlantean folk memory had evolved to displace Zeus with Poseidon as the King of the Gods. When Rome fell in 476 AD, the Atlanteans rejoiced, for the anti-Roman faction had come to power in 389 AD, having basically turned the High King into a prisoner in his own palace. This Dictatorship, called the Autocracy of Potamoi was overthrown brutally by pro-Royalists in the Revolution of 716 AD. This upheaval however allowed Arab traders and pirates to make small colonies in the southern and mostly uninhabited region of Atlantis bringing Islam with them. Most of the Arabs that settled southern Atlantis, or Filantis to the Arabs, were from Morocco and mostly Berber by genetics. At the same time, King Tritonius VI allowed Visigothic refugees from the Islamic Invasion to settle down in small parts of northern Atlantis as well.
Eventually the small Arab colonies turned into city states, and eventually into kingdoms, with the rise of Sultan Muhammad Almanzor I who united Filantis (Islamic Atlantis) in the south for the first time in 923 AD. This eventually led to conflict between the High Kingdom of Atlantis and the Sultanate of Filantis until the Marriage of 1381. The House of Almanzor had been reduced by war to a single woman, Rabia, who married King Atlantor XII if Filantis gained permanent cultural and religious autonomy, which he granted through the Charter of Zahran.
For the next 400 years, Atlantis remained an isolationist country, eventually colonizing all of its lands until the 7 Years War, when Spain made an attempt to ally itself with Atlantis against Portugal. Atlantis refused, and this led to the Spanish Blockade of Atlantis, which forced High Queen Penelope II to side with the British. At the end of the 7 Years War, Penelope II made Atlantis’s neutrality firm internationally recognized, and took massive amounts of economic reparations. Atlantis remained neutral in the Revolutionary Era and also remained neutral during the Napoleonic Wars, though it took on a pro-British stance as the Continental Blockade against Britain hurt its economy. During the 1830s, Atlantis started to industrialize, slowly but surely. In WW1, Atlantis’s neutrality was broken when the German ships headed for the Ottoman Empire by mistake fired on Atlantean patrol ships. The Germans got away but were identified and the Atlanteans declared war on the Central Powers in late 1914. Though some 200,000 Atlantean soldiers did fight in France and Italy and even in Gallipoli against the Central Powers, the main Atlantean contribution came in the form of resources, as Atlantis was brimming in them, and in Versailles, Atlantis received Togo as a colony and many economic reparations. In WW2, Atlantis remained neutral until 1942, after the submarine warfare became too much to bear. Atlanteans served against the Axis powers in North Africa, France and Italy. Atlantis became a founding member of NATO and eventually joined the EU later onwards as well. Today, Atlantis is a modern and powerful European nation.
Thoughts and comments? (Yes there is a ASBish Butterfly net.)
I think it was a German saying during the war.
"The situation in Germany is serious but not fatal, while the situation in Austria-Hungary is fatal but not serious".
"While all sides did not exactly got what they wanted from the peace, the treaties that where drawn up following the negotiated peace reflected the outcome of the war very well, since neither party could claim total victory. In Eastern Europe, most of the treaty of Brest-Litovsk was upheld. giving Germany huge sway in the region, it was also hoped that these new states would serve as a buffer against the Russian Bolsheviks. In the West, less radical changes to the border where made. Luxemburg was annexed into Germany and plebiscites where held in Alsace-Loraine leading to minor changes on the Franco-German border. The ailing Habsburg Empire was restructured into a Triple Monarchy, which won out against the idea of turning the empire into a federation. While it lost Istria to the Italians, Montenegro was incorporated into the the Kingdom of Illyria. A plebiscite was held in West Galicia, and it joined the nascent kingdom of Poland. In the Middle-East both France and Britain created mandates for themselves while an Arab kingdom was founded which was nominally tied to the Ottoman Empire. This state of affairs would rapidly change however with the Habsburg Empire being the first piece to fall, hurdling Europe towards an other devastating war."
Now this is a great map, you nailed the old school map/textbook feel.
A map of an alternate Poland. TTL Poland has somewhat less land in the west, but more than makes up for it in the east.
MODERN TAMRIEL SERIES #1:-
THE EMPIRE OF CYRODIIL
With the declaration of the 8th Era after the formation of the Tamriellic Union - an economic and political supranational union of Tamriellic Nations - the Empire of Cyrodiil became the largest, most populous, and most powerful nation in the TU. The Imperial City, the center of Tamriel, and the Nexus of Mundus became the de-facto capital of the TU, becoming the figurehead city of all of Tamriel for the first time since the days of the Oblivion Crisis. After centuries - millennia even - of warfare, genocides, and empires coming and going, Tamriel was ready to rest, and instead pursue her ambitions economically, and no other country showcased that fact more than Cyrodiil. The common currency and free borders - The Alinor Area - allowed for immense wealth to flow into the nation as Cyrodiil, and indeed all of Tamriel finally put the memory of the Great Wars of the Fourth to the Seventh Eras behind them. THE EMPIRE OF CYRODIIL
Boasting a population of over 110 Million, Cyrodiil is the most populous member of the Tamriellic Union. Though not as cosmopolitan as the glory days of the Third Empire due to the Imperial-centric focus of the Fifth and Sixth Empires, it remains the most ethnically and racially diverse region of Tamriel to this date. It is dominated by the Races of Man at around ~87% with the rest being Elvish populations. Tamriellic remains - like throughout all of Tamriel - the favored languages of communication between all cultures, though, of course, Cyrodiilic is spoken by and large as well. Its government is a Parliamentary Constitutional Monarchy headed by His Majesty the Emperor Desilus III of the House of Carvain who united the now called 7th Empire of Cyrodiil. Its current High Chancellor after the Elections of 8E 1 is Nelsinah Teltis - a Dunmer Warrioress from Cheydinhal - whose political party - Cyrodiil Forward - managed to win a supermajority. Like all TU members, the Tamriellic Crown (TRC) is the nation's currency.
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As a worldbuilder whose fantasy map is just Tamriel turned upside down, more please.MODERN TAMRIEL SERIES #1:-With the declaration of the 8th Era after the formation of the Tamriellic Union - an economic and political supranational union of Tamriellic Nations - the Empire of Cyrodiil became the largest, most populous, and most powerful nation in the TU. The Imperial City, the center of Tamriel, and the Nexus of Mundus became the de-facto capital of the TU, becoming the figurehead city of all of Tamriel for the first time since the days of the Oblivion Crisis. After centuries - millennia even - of warfare, genocides, and empires coming and going, Tamriel was ready to rest, and instead pursue her ambitions economically, and no other country showcased that fact more than Cyrodiil. The common currency and free borders - The Alinor Area - allowed for immense wealth to flow into the nation as Cyrodiil, and indeed all of Tamriel finally put the memory of the Great Wars of the Fourth to the Seventh Eras behind them.
THE EMPIRE OF CYRODIIL
Boasting a population of over 110 Million, Cyrodiil is the most populous member of the Tamriellic Union. Though not as cosmopolitan as the glory days of the Third Empire due to the Imperial-centric focus of the Fifth and Sixth Empires, it remains the most ethnically and racially diverse region of Tamriel to this date. It is dominated by the Races of Man at around ~87% with the rest being Elvish populations. Tamriellic remains - like throughout all of Tamriel - the favored languages of communication between all cultures, though, of course, Cyrodiilic is spoken by and large as well. Its government is a Parliamentary Constitutional Monarchy headed by His Majesty the Emperor Desilus III of the House of Carvain who united the now called 7th Empire of Cyrodiil. Its current High Chancellor after the Elections of 8E 1 is Nelsinah Teltis - a Dunmer Warrioress from Cheydinhal - whose political party - Cyrodiil Forward - managed to win a supermajority. Like all TU members, the Tamriellic Crown (TRC) is the nation's currency.
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The fact that this looks very possible in the ES universe makes this even better. One question. Is the technology modern, or are they still in the medieval technology they had in the games?MODERN TAMRIEL SERIES #1:-With the declaration of the 8th Era after the formation of the Tamriellic Union - an economic and political supranational union of Tamriellic Nations - the Empire of Cyrodiil became the largest, most populous, and most powerful nation in the TU. The Imperial City, the center of Tamriel, and the Nexus of Mundus became the de-facto capital of the TU, becoming the figurehead city of all of Tamriel for the first time since the days of the Oblivion Crisis. After centuries - millennia even - of warfare, genocides, and empires coming and going, Tamriel was ready to rest, and instead pursue her ambitions economically, and no other country showcased that fact more than Cyrodiil. The common currency and free borders - The Alinor Area - allowed for immense wealth to flow into the nation as Cyrodiil, and indeed all of Tamriel finally put the memory of the Great Wars of the Fourth to the Seventh Eras behind them.
THE EMPIRE OF CYRODIIL
Boasting a population of over 110 Million, Cyrodiil is the most populous member of the Tamriellic Union. Though not as cosmopolitan as the glory days of the Third Empire due to the Imperial-centric focus of the Fifth and Sixth Empires, it remains the most ethnically and racially diverse region of Tamriel to this date. It is dominated by the Races of Man at around ~87% with the rest being Elvish populations. Tamriellic remains - like throughout all of Tamriel - the favored languages of communication between all cultures, though, of course, Cyrodiilic is spoken by and large as well. Its government is a Parliamentary Constitutional Monarchy headed by His Majesty the Emperor Desilus III of the House of Carvain who united the now called 7th Empire of Cyrodiil. Its current High Chancellor after the Elections of 8E 1 is Nelsinah Teltis - a Dunmer Warrioress from Cheydinhal - whose political party - Cyrodiil Forward - managed to win a supermajority. Like all TU members, the Tamriellic Crown (TRC) is the nation's currency.
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Civilian Tech is basically 1950s-60s level, whilst due to magic, War tech is kinda stuck in the early 1700s. No one wants to use unwieldy guns and cannons when they have massive spells right there. A weird situation for sure.
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