Map Thread XXI

I am imagining a map of Antarctica, with Norwegian territory and claims staying, but with New Swabia remaining. I am surprised Germany took back land from Denmark, as Hitler thought it made a compact size as it was, either as a puppet or a future reichsgau. Well, I suppose it helps underscore the favoritism for Norwegians here. Iceland and the Faroes independent here, occupied by the British, Germans, or are they doing their own thing?
Iceland and the Faroes are independent but host a British military presence. In this universe, Hitler initially planned on keeping Denmark whole, but when they rejected overtures to align with Germany in the post-Dunkirk order, Hitler decided to take North Schleswig (though Denmark still remains Finlandized)
 
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Please note that this map is not a political statement, just a scenario.

The Year 2020, Europe reigns supreme across the world, holding colonies across the Americas, Asia, Africa and Oceania. For the most part despite some setbacks and conflicts arising, the world has remained mostly peaceful. A world-spanning conflict in the modern era would be seen as impossible and something that can only happen in fantasy or science fiction. This write-up will go through the Point of Divergence and each continent's effects from it.


POD:
The POD occurred around January 1885 when Fredrick III for an unknown reason would see his health greatly improve, possibly because he quit smoking earlier. Having been much healthier and not developing cancer (or it not advancing) his reign of the German Empire continued past 1888 for another 27 Years. During this time he would see the German Empire liberalized, with the country slowly becoming more democratic. Despite often opposing Bismarck, Frederick would never dismiss him from chancellorship in 1890, however, he would retire on April 16, 1892. Frederick would decide to continue keeping the balance of power in Europe making attempts to reduce tension among European powers, especially with the French. Nothing much changed too much until 1914 when Archduke Franz Ferdinard would avoid his assassination attempt, thus preventing the July crisis. Fredrick eventually died on October 19, 1915. His first son Wilhelm II died in 1907 from an unexpected accident leading his second son, Prince Henry, to become Kaiser Henry I.


Europe:
Despite avoiding the World Wars, Europe remains in a semi-cold war (no idea what to call it) between several European powers. Tensions between several of them began to cool down throughout the 1920s. The Germans and French 1920 would begin talks of normalizing relationships. Despite Europe starting to see peace deals made, Wars often still start between countries, such as the Austrian Civil War in 1925, which saw the Austrians and Hungarians fight against each other who should become the dominant group, leading to a truce after the conflict ended in less than 2 months and the federalizing the Austrian-Hungarian empire into the United Federation of Danubia. France and Italy meanwhile would become more hostile over the region of Tunisia. This eventually sparked the Tunisian War in 1932, a border conflict between Italian and French forces in Northern Africa, mainly in Tunisia and Libya. France and Italy were cautious about not escalating the conflict to mainland Europe, and eventually, in 1933 the conflict came to an end with the French keeping Tunisia, although Italy still hold a claim over the region. The German Empire under Frederick would see itself liberalized into a full Federal Constitutional Monarch. Even after he died in 1915 his successor Henry I would continue these reforms. Henry I would die in 1929, and his son, Waldemar, became Kaiser. The British would remain the dominant power of the globe, however, in Europe, they still take a general splendid isolationist approach. In 1914, Home Rule would be achieved in Ireland, and while there are still those who want total independence from Britain, many enjoy this new act. The Russians meanwhile would see their empire industrialized from Ukraine to Kazakhstan. By the 1950s their industrialization efforts would succeed, making them the third most powerful country in the world behind Germany and Britain. Also, the 1950s would see Europe demilitarise as their semi-cold war would move from militarism to economic dominance. The European powers would also be more focused on their colonies and their control over there. By the 1980s the semi-cold war in Europe has largely died out, and in 1995 the European Council was founded. Europe in the 2020s remains in an uneasy peace.

North America:
North America generally remained the same until around 1914. In the United States, Woodrow Wilson would still win the 1912 and 1916 elections. Without the Russian Revolution and the following civil war, the Red Scare would be largely avoided. In Mexico, the Mexican Revolution ended generally the same way as it did in our timeline. In Canada, the country has avoided the Great War and would avoid its economic hardship in the early 1920s. The roaring twenties of our world was more of a blundering twenties, with a sluggish economy and several strikes across major American cities. Prohibition would be avoided, and while the temperance movement continue to exist up until the 1940s and some counties ban alcohol to be distributed, it would never be established nationwide. Despite the economy not being the best, Black Tuesday would never occur and thus no Great Depression. The Dominion of Newfoundland would never go bankrupt and never suspended its government, thus never joining Canada. In 1965, the Caribbean Federation was formed as a dominion by the British colonies in the West Antilles. By the 2010s, the US still resembles itself from the 1910s. Segregation still exists with most states enforcing it. When it comes to women getting the right to vote it often depends on the state, with some of them not allowing it while some do. The US would also never become the world superpower, instead of remaining an isolationist regional power in the Americas.

South America:
Like the North, South America generally remained the same until 1914. The dreadnought race would continue in South America past 1915 between Argentina, Brazil and Chile. South America would experience an economic boom in the late 1920s thanks to Europe importing agricultural products from the region. This boost would allow several South American countries to industrialize starting in the 1930s. Several early South American conflicts such as the Chaco War would be avoided, although tensions between many of those nations remain high. In 1943 the Buenos Aires Treaty would be signed between Brazil, Chile and Argentina effectively ending the dreadnought race. By the 1980s, Argentina and Brazil would become regional powers in the Americas in the same vein as the United States. As of 2020, South America while facing several issues such as pollution and political corruption is a much wealthier and more influential continent.

Africa:
The Scramble for Africa still occurs and is divided in the relative same way as in our timeline. By 1914, nearly all of Africa had been colonized with Ethiopia and Liberia being the exception. Morocco remains an issue with the French, even with the Agadir crisis butterflying away. In South Africa, despite Apartheid not occurring, segregation between Whites and Blacks in the country continues to this day. In the Congo, rebellions would become commonplace in the region, to the point the Belgians couldn’t handle it. In 1970 the Belgians would give independence to Katanga and the Congo. The Congo would end up like a Belgian client state and often remains poor and most of the population suffer extreme poverty. In Algeria, the population would be divided between the Arab and Berber populations and the Pied-Noir Europeans. In the 1960s, France would reorganize their African holdings, with West and Central Africa being made into dominion-like states, while Algeria remain part of France proper. The Federation of Rhodesia and Nyasaland would soon evolve into the Dominion of Rhodesia and Nyasaland. In the Ethiopian Empire, the country would follow Japan's industrialization policy, and by the 21st century is a fully industrialized nation like the west. In Egypt, the country after several rebellions would become a British dominion under the monarchy. As of 2020, Most of Africa would be under European control. Rebellions are common but are often and usually crush harshly. Despite this, the hope for African independence remains high among many Africans.

Asia:

Like Africa, many parts of Asia are under European colonial control. The British Raj remains a consent problem for the British. Calls from Indians for autonomy to independence rise. As India's population continued to grow, the British were reluctantly forced to turn the subcontinent into a dominion to avoid any major rebellions in the colony. The Ottoman Empire, known to many as the “Sick Men of Europe”, would continue to see itself in decline. However, with the Austrian civil war leading to the federalization of their empire, the Ottomans decide to do the same and started from 1926 to 1934 would see several economic and government reformations, and would see the Ottoman federalization of their empire, and giving autonomy to the Armenians, Greeks, Arabs, Ayssrians, Kurds, Jews and etc. In Arabia, the Rashidi dynasty would conquer and unite all of Arabia under their control. Their reliance on the Ottomans would see itself decrease over the years. In Central Asia, the Russians continue to hold dominance over the region despite some resistance being held. Iran and Afghanistan would modernize throughout the mid-20th century, and also end up as Industrialized modern states by 2020. In China, the civil war would never occur although the country remain in a state of warlords until the 1960s. Japan meanwhile would never go to war with China. The country remains an Authoritarian democracy to this day and an ally of Britain. In 1997, with the Hong Kong deal expiring, Conflict between China and the British occur over the city. Eventually the British would negotiate their hold on the city for another 50 years. Despite this tension remain high between China and Britain. In Southeast Asia, the French would continue to rule the Indochina, despite resistance from natives. In Indonesia, like in India, the Dutch were forced to reform the colony into a dominion similar to the British. The Philippines would gain its independence from the US in 1955, and while an American ally, they been saying influenced by the Germans and Japanese.

Oceania:
Australia and New Zealand remain similar to other British dominions. They still resemble themselves in the 1920s.

Technology:
Technology is both advanced and lacking in this world. Agriculture is more advance, with more advanced farming techniques. Military technology is a bit strange, with at first being advanced in the 1940s but is around the 1970s when it comes to 2020. Nuclear Weapons were first built by the Germans in 1964 and by 2020, the US, UK, France, and Russia, China have at least 1 functioning nuke. In terms of architecture, at first neoclassical dominated cities, but by the 1940s Art Deco would become the popular style. When it comes to Cars, they resemble themselves in the 1950s.

In General, this world isn’t a utopia or a dystopia, really it depends on where you live.
 
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I'm just passing this around as an Idea, but would anyone be interested in a oneshot map based on the disaster novel, Nihon Chinbotsu (Japan sinks)?

scene from one of it's film adaptations explaining the situation in the story (to be used to in making the patches for the map):

What I'm proposing here is a oneshot discussing how the effects of the destruction of Japan would be felt globally. That and the partial destruction of part of the East Coast of Russia and the Korean peninsula, as Japan pulls them down with it. One thing's for sure, there's going to be a huge diaspora of Japanese people now that tthey've lost their home as well as a lot of crying Weeaboos distraught at Japan's sinking in this oneshot
 
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I'm just passing this around as an Idea, but would anyone be interested in a oneshot map based on the disaster novel, Nihon Chinbotsu (Japan sinks)?

scene from one of it's film adaptations explaining the situation in the story (to be used to in making the patches for the map):

What I'm proposing here is a oneshot discussing how the effects of the destruction of Japan would be felt globally. That and the partial destruction of part of the East Coast of Russia and the Korean peninsula, as Japan pulls them down with it. One thing's for sure, there's going to be a huge diaspora of Japanese people now that tthey've lost their home as well as a lot of crying Weeaboos distraught at Japan's sinking in this oneshot
A. If you want a discussion, maybe you can start a new discuss thread, maybe ASB since this is impossible ? Or a map request ?

B. Not to be crass, but you do realise there's a lot of people literally going to cry here from :
a. Japaneses living abroad who literally just lost their home and most likely their families
b. Foreigners who were in Japan and most liekly lost their lives.
c. US Navy and other militaries families who just lost their family members in duty in Japan.
d. Koreans, Russians, Chinese, Taiwanese, and other nations people who most likely got hit by tsunamis.
e. Any person understanding economy knowing they're facing a new global economic crisis.
f. Surviving Japanese people who lost their home and now must live as exiles destroying their way of life forever.

Instead of just go "Haha, Weeaboos go cry" ?
 
*snip*

Not a whole lot with this map, it's a fake nation inspired by the Arma series. The whole jist of it is surviving sizeable eastern european German population... also orthodox Germans sounded cool too.

OMG, I really really love that idea! I definitely would try this out for a vacation goal or something. Really nice.
 
I'm just passing this around as an Idea, but would anyone be interested in a oneshot map based on the disaster novel, Nihon Chinbotsu (Japan sinks)?

scene from one of it's film adaptations explaining the situation in the story (to be used to in making the patches for the map):

What I'm proposing here is a oneshot discussing how the effects of the destruction of Japan would be felt globally. That and the partial destruction of part of the East Coast of Russia and the Korean peninsula, as Japan pulls them down with it. One thing's for sure, there's going to be a huge diaspora of Japanese people now that tthey've lost their home as well as a lot of crying Weeaboos distraught at Japan's sinking in this oneshot
Whats the pod, the 1970s book, 2006 movie, or the 2020 anime?
 
Here's another map from my TL. This is a map from the present and the TL is currently in the 1810's so its a "bit" of an spoiler. Anyhow most of the TL is planned in my head and this does not really show massive spoilers, only vaguely referring to an event in the 1920's. By the way I experimented with GIS for the topography, and I let the program create the rivers so they may be off. Most of the job was still done with paint.

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So I created a religion map for my medieval America world (for what it's worth, it's just the After the End faiths and where they'd be in this world, since I like them a lot). The religions mapped here are based on if a majority of people within a state follow that religion, so religions like Imamism in California and Atomicism in the Southwest won't show up on the map
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Key:
  • Cream: Conclavian Catholicism (American Catholic, led by the Pope in St. Louis)
  • Light grey: Evangelicalism (conglomerated Protestantism)
  • Lime green: Revelationism (if backwoods Pentecostalism became pagan)
  • Dark teal: Americanism (that which needs no introduction)
  • Sky blue: Anabaptism (based around the Amish traditions of interior Pennsylvania)
  • Darker sky blue: Neo-Norse paganism (A Minnesota Vikings fan's somewhat poor reimagining of a post-Ragnarök Norse religion)
  • Ocean blue: Lakeshore faiths (the folklore of the Great Lakes became a religion. Involves a good bit of football)
  • Crimson: Galvanism/Rust Cult (Praise be to Father Ford)
  • Tannish-red: Anglicanism (got a little confused on what the "Archbishop of Canterbury" means. New Brunswick has never been more important)
  • Neon green: Elven paganism (D&D elf religion basically)
  • Burnt orange: Ursuline Catholicism (Matriarchial Quebecois Catholicism under the Order of St. Ursula. Doesn't like the Pope in St. Louis)
  • Forest green: Neo-Celtic Christianity (not much different from Anglicanism, despite the name, just emphasizes a Celtic identity more)
  • Light reddish-brown: Peyotism (The Native American Church, essentially. Has lost adherents to the Conclavians and the below faith)
  • Deep green: Trailwalker faiths (if the mythos of the Wild West became a religion. Losing ground to the Conclavians)
  • Light orange: Ceticism (Californian Confucianism, basically)
  • Light green: Gaianism (Matriarchial Wiccan tree-huggers, essentially)
  • Dirt brown (in the northwest): Alaskan Orthodoxy (in a bizarre twist of fate, a syncretic Orthodox Church arose out of the conglomeration of churches in Alaska. Despite the name and theological similarities to Eastern Orthodoxy, it's remarkably different, due to its inclusion of some Protestant theology and folk traditions)
  • Light purple: Mormonism (has become something of a new Judaism, just Christian)
  • Dark gold: Sagrado Corazón (Mexican folk Catholics that worship saints as if they were gods themselves)
  • Light gold: Guadalupean Catholicism (Cristero Catholicism, doesn't like the Pope)
  • Striped light-orange-pale-green: Cetic majority ruled by a Nazarene minority (the Nazarenes, a Christian group from Southern California based on the many churches there, rule this portion of California, which still has a Cetic majority)
  • Dark reddish brown: Dwarven paganism (Moradin in Yellowstone)
  • Darker scarlet: Neo-Aztec faiths (does blood sacrifices with even more zeal than the old Aztecs)
  • Faint green: Neo-Mayan faiths (has syncretized with Catholicism to some degree)
  • Purple: Moravian Church (Moravian missionary efforts bore quite a lot of fruit in Central America)
  • Colombian gold: Patria Grande (believes that Simón Bolívar and the Colombian revolutionaries were divine agents chosen by God Himself to establish Gran Colombia and venerate them as Saints. Many also seek to restore Gran Colombia)
  • Lighter grey-brown: Santeria (Experienced a revival after the Event. Leading the push against the Voodoo Haitians)
  • Darker grey-brown: Voodou/Voodoo (currently going through troubles with the rumors of the Haitian Emperor's meddling with dark forces)
  • Striped Cream-darker grey-brown: Catholic majority ruled by a Voodoo minority (the King of Louisiana is Voodoo, as are more than a few nobles, but most Louisianans are Catholic)
  • Cyan: Brethren (if Pirates of the Caribbean became a religion. One Jack Sparrow of Tortuga has made a name for himself as a powerful Brethren pirate)
  • Striped emerald green-tannish-red: Mixed Protestant majority ruled over by a Sunni Muslim minority (the Guyanas are very religiously pluralistic, owing to their colonial heritage)
  • Magenta: Incan paganism (Inti has been syncretized with the Christian God, as have much of other Incan practices)
  • Reddish-brown: Brazilian Apostolicism (one of the bajillion religions in Brazil, based on Brazilian Catholicism. Unlike North America, it never elected a Pope after the Event, and instead went on its own way as a seperate church)

I noticed after that I made it that the purple Black Hills state wasn't colored with a religion, so I'm gonna describe it here. In short, it's Americanist, and the folks of the Black Hills act as caretakers of Mount Rushmore, the greatest monument to the Founders west of the Mississippi
Who areDwarfes in this world? Literally Dwarfes?
 
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Who Dwarfes in this world are? Literally Dwarfes?
Yeah, this is designed to be a D&D world, so I threw the dwarves in the Rockies, most notably around Yellowstone. I still have the elf-dwarf rivalry from other fantasy works, too, despite the distance between the two races
 

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Here's another map from my TL. This is a map from the present and the TL is currently in the 1810's so its a "bit" of an spoiler. Anyhow most of the TL is planned in my head and this does not really show massive spoilers, only vaguely referring to an event in the 1920's. By the way I experimented with GIS for the topography, and I let the program create the rivers so they may be off. Most of the job was still done with paint.

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How did you let the system create the rivers? Is it drawn from raster or something.
 
I'm just passing this around as an Idea, but would anyone be interested in a oneshot map based on the disaster novel, Nihon Chinbotsu (Japan sinks)?

scene from one of it's film adaptations explaining the situation in the story (to be used to in making the patches for the map):

What I'm proposing here is a oneshot discussing how the effects of the destruction of Japan would be felt globally. That and the partial destruction of part of the East Coast of Russia and the Korean peninsula, as Japan pulls them down with it. One thing's for sure, there's going to be a huge diaspora of Japanese people now that tthey've lost their home as well as a lot of crying Weeaboos distraught at Japan's sinking in this oneshot
Yeah, go for it! Sounds like an interesting concept.

How fast is the sinking, anyway? I assume by the "huge diaspora", it's not immediate, so that a lot of people can get away.

A diaspora of a people-without-a-home of fhis size is essentially unprecedented, no? (Well, the Jews, yeah, but they never made up over 125 million)

Hmm, perhaps the now-overseas Japanese can find a new home somewhere besides being effective refugees... maybe if they pool enough money to colonise Antarctica or buy some small Pacific Island or something (though probably nowhere near enough to house 125 million comfortably, so it'll probably be like a ceremonial-type country or something - also the first of it's kind?)
 
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Yeah, go for it! Sounds like an interesting concept.

How fast is the sinking, anyway? I assume by the "huge diaspora", it's not immediate, so that a lot of people can get away.

A diaspora of a people-without-a-home of fhis size is essentially unprecedented, no? (Well, the Jews, yeah, but they never made up over 125 million)

Hmm, perhaps the now-overseas Japanese can find a new home somewhere besides being effective refugees... maybe if they pool enough money to colonise Antarctica or buy some small Pacific Island or something (though probably nowhere near enough to house 125 million comfortably, so it'll probably be like a ceremonial-type country or something - also the first of it's kind?)
based on that scene, within a year.
 
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