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What in the goddamn world are those Chinese and Indian borders.

Let me cleanse your eyes from this atrocity with a different form of atrocity.
Remember Thrance ?
I continued 'til Danube and Sava, and through Anatolia to the Caucasus and Levant. It's still WIP thus far.
I'm matching the provinces to my 8K-BAM basemap's. Names are all Francified, with the cutoffs between different symbols between 60K, 200K and 1Mhab. Places with less than 20Khab can be displayed, but all that are over are displayed.

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This will be perfect to annoy nationalists later. ^^
When it is complete (ie I can't find any of the Europe VT-BAM basemap left to fill with provinces) I'll post it to DA.
 
United Kingdom (Kind Of The Same)
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Spain (Kind Of The Same)
Myanmar (Kind Of The Same)
Wow. You're playing really fast and loose with the definition of "kind of the same."

Looks like some one let the Americans draw the borders.
Hey now. This is twice this was mentioned. Sure, the US has internal borders that have straight lines, and the US has external borders that have straight lines. But if you want straight line borders imposed on other areas of the world, the experts are more often the French and the British. :)

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Let me cleanse your eyes from this atrocity with a different form of atrocity.
Remember Thrance ?
I continued 'til Danube and Sava, and through Anatolia to the Caucasus and Levant. It's still WIP thus far.
I'm matching the provinces to my 8K-BAM basemap's. Names are all Francified, with the cutoffs between different symbols between 60K, 200K and 1Mhab. Places with less than 20Khab can be displayed, but all that are over are displayed.

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This will be perfect to annoy nationalists later. ^^
When it is complete (ie I can't find any of the Europe VT-BAM basemap left to fill with provinces) I'll post it to DA.
Something something Latin Empire something something
 
This is an ASB map that I made out of boredom, it is loosely based on EEUSG's People's Republic of the Antilles. Basically it is a CSA that managed to achieve all of its goals (including the completely unrealistic Golden Circle) only to fall into a socialist revolution in the early 20th century which in turn left the slavocratic system of government practically intact.

The Scarlet Circle:
The CSA manages to win the civil war and become independent from the United States. They rapidly industrialize under the guidance of Jefferson Davis, Alexander H. Stephens, and their successors, while ironically further tightening Richmond's hold on the states.

In the 1880's they have a war against a republican Mexico in which the Union intervenes on the side of Mexico, the United Kingdom and France support the Confederation (but unlike the Timeline-191 they do not demand the end of slavery) allowing the CSA defeat both. Northern Mexico and the American states of Maryland, Delaware, Missouri, Kansas, West Virginia (which joins the confederate state of Virginia) and southern California and Illinois are annexed by the Confederation. The expansion continued for the next several decades. Cuba and Puerto Rico were bought from Spain, Panama from Colombia, the Virgin Islands from Denmark and Miskito from England, Central America and Hawaii were taken by filibusters, the rest of Mexico and Haiti were forcibly annexed and the Dominican Republic voluntarily requested to join the Confederation after seeing where the wind was blowing. By 1930 it seemed that everything was perfect for the Confederates; Blacks were still enslaved, Latinos and Asians were dying by the hundreds in factories under a regime similar to apartheid and the plantation elite was filling their pockets with money, surely nothing could go wrong... right?

In 1931, after a particularly bad economic depression, poor whites, Latinos, and Asians decided they had enough of being exploited. Being the majority of the population and not being as absurdly guarded as the black slaves, the workers started a Marxist revolution that quickly spread to the entire Confederation. For them the aristocracy was to blame for all their evils and the black slaves who, from their perspective, received unfair benefits such as accommodation, food and material goods, supposedly only because of their racial condition, were just as guilty as they.

The Confederate Civil War lasted six long years and after it ended (with a revolutionary victory) all the wealthy southerners had a special meeting with the edge of a guillotine, the collaborating ethnic groups such as the Native American slavers and free blacks who "benefited from the system" were expelled to autonomous territories that are nothing more than giant concentration camps. Meanwhile, the slaves were nationalized to be used in the factories where the workers used to work, although the term "ward of the state" is used to avoid the negative connotations of the term slave.

By 1980, the PCA (People's Confederation of America) is on the brink of collapse. The nation is today practically in every sense a Hispanic country and the Spanish language has long ago relegated English as a lingua franca (although with many words borrowed from English), the culture on the other hand is undeniably Southern and strangely protestantism It is still a fairly popular religion throughout the country (although it is officially banned by the government).

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Wow. You're playing really fast and loose with the definition of "kind of the same."


Hey now. This is twice this was mentioned. Sure, the US has internal borders that have straight lines, and the US has external borders that have straight lines. But if you want straight line borders imposed on other areas of the world, the experts are more often the French and the British. :)

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The Brits and French liked adding some nice diagonals to their straight lines rather than just sticking to parallels and meridians like the Americans.
 
But if you want straight line borders imposed on other areas of the world, the experts are more often the French and the British.
So it is much worse.
While the countries colonised by France and the UK had these hideous borders imposed on them by the law, the US chose to impose them on itself. 🤪
 
Alternative Map For Europe (Have Some Troubles With Some Edits & Feel Free To Re-Edit In Any Way) =
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[1] United Kingdom (Kind Of The Same) + [2] Ireland (Given Part Of United Kingdom) + [3] Norway (No Change) + [4] Sweden (No Change) + [5] Denmark (Given Part Of Germany) + [6] Finland (No Change) + [7] Estonia (No Change) + [8] Latvia (No Change) + [9] Lithuania (United With Belarus) + [10] Netherlands (United With Belgium & Luxembourg) + [11] France (Kind Of The Same) + [12] Portugal (Given Part Of Spain) + [13] Spain (Kind Of The Same) + [14] Prussia (North Germany) + [15] Austria (South Germany) + [16] Switzerland (United With Liechtenstein) + [17] North Italy (Need Alternative Name) + [18] South Italy (Need Alternative Name) + [19] Poland (Given Part Of Russia) + [20] Hungary (United With Slovakia) + [21] Czech Republic (No Charge) + [22] Ukraine (Kind Of The Same) + [23] Romania (United With Moldova & Part Of Ukraine) + [24] Croatia (United With Slovenia & Bosnia And Herzegovina) + [25] Serbia (United With Montenegro & Kosovo) + [26] Albania (United With North Macedonia) + [27] Bulgaria (No Charge) + [28] Greece (Given Part Of Turkey) + [29] Iceland (No Charge) + [30] Cyprus (United With West & East).
Northern Italy is just Italy. Southern Italy Naples
 
I was inspired to make this map of a weird, implausible scenario i thought up! Info/lore below.

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My idea for this little timeline was to have an Asian colonizer that arises late to the game, but not so late that there's nothing left for them in the new world. I don't have a specific POD in mind, but i'm thinking that for some divergent set of reasons, in the 18th century the Japanese Shogunate starts weakening from inside. When some European explorers pay them a visit in the 1770s or so and try to convince them to stop having the country be closed, they decide to go full Meiji and end the Edo period 90 years early. They later go on a colonization kick, but because the Qing dynasty is still doing pretty good for itself they decide to go east instead of west. They grab up little Pacific islands, Hawaii, and by the 1820s-1830s they reach North America.

They set up shop in the San Francisco Bay area, and sign a big treaty with newly-independent Mexico where they basically buy most of Alta California. The Americans and British are pretty worried about this whole thing, especially when more and more Japanese settlers start arriving, so they pester them into signing treaties that explicitly delineate exactly where the borders are gonna be. Around that time the Mexican-American war happens, but ITTL it's much more Texas-centric. The American Civil War ends up starting earlier, but the outcome is the same as OTL. As the 19th century progresses it becomes clear that Canada and Mexico have more breathing room on the continent than they probably expected. Mexico is a bit more stable and developed than OTL, and in keeping on good terms with Japan actually becomes a close ally.

Anyway, by 1916 Oregon (actually mostly Washington state) is the only west coast US state. The presence of Japanese America kinda gave the whole concept of Manifest Destiny a reality check, and the US has barely expanded beyond the continent in this timeline. While Japanese America is a big, valuable trading partner, it's pretty homogenous and also kind of an insular independent thing. I imagine that Oregon and British Columbia here are much more vital arteries than they are OTL, and they would also be more tolerant of/attract more non-Japanese Asian immigrants. I think European Americans are more likely to see Asian people as equals in this timeline, as Japan has been a powerful empire since the revolutionary era and is actually on the continent. "They aren't coming for us, they're already here."
 
Some of Joe R. Lansdale's fantasy/alternate history stories have a US with a Japanese neighbor on the west coast. What I found memorable about it was that the Japanese had planted flowering cherries everywhere along the border where they could grow, as a symbol of peaceable relations between the two nations.
 
Very interesting, I'll have to read it. Why does Britain control South Sudan and the Sinai Peninsula but not the bulk of Egypt? Or is that too deep into spoiler territory?
Egypt doesn’t fall into such crippling debt as OTL, and that combined with winning the war with Ethiopia leaves it in a much stronger position. Not strong enough to avoid British encroachment, but enough to preserve Egyptian independence.
 
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