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B_Munro Cover Project: Round Two, Khanates
You may remember the B_Munro cover project from several months ago, in which several of us got together and covered a single Munro map. We had a month to work and were prohibited from talking in too much detail about our work, the aim being to see how different people interpreted the same map...
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I'm not done with those yet. Besides, it's Renaissance Italy, which never managed to effectively unite OTL or do colonies outside the Med-Black Sea area, while Japan before the modern era never extended beyond, well, Japan. I am thinking of doing a modern Japan and Italy wank as well, but Roman-wanks, like Nazi-wanks, are cliche enough at this point that I'm not doing them.
Ah got it
Tho pre modern japan did end up expending further north into Korea than what is shown on the map.
Maybe you should look for more obscure totalitarian regimes to make wank of. A Khmer Rouge wank, perhaps? 😱
I just didn't have space to label every somewhat important country, so I regrettably had to leave a bunch out. The places in Britain and France being some of those.
Obviously, there's the Kingdom of Scotland up there in the north. The Dual Kingdom of Normandy-Cornwall is the purplish nation, England is the pink, and then there's the overweight nation of Paris under Normandy's control, and Burgundy is in a similar situation regarding the Netherlands.
Two maps of a victorious Germany's border region with the Japanese sphere. Being on the far side of the Ural mountains the Jenisseidistrikt does not form an integral part of the Reich, but is more akin to a colony, serving as a buffer. The Jenisseidistrikt is bordered on the east by the Yenisei river and on the west by the Ural mountains, forming a well-secured line of defence. It's largest city and capital is Himmlerstadt, although both Katharinaburg and Tcheljabinsk are more practicably accessed from the Reich and serve important functions thereof. The bulk of the German population resides in the big cities, though they only form a majority in Nordkrasnojarsk. The only other areas that have any substantial German settlement are on the border with German Turkestan, colonies of Volga German and Mennonite settlers that have lived in the region for centuries.
Together with German Turkestan, this colony of the Reich forms the border with the Japanese sphere, and is particularly heavily militarised, especially along the Militärgrenze, which stretches from Jenisseisk to the Arctic Ocean, and is headquartered in Nordkrasnojarsk. As tensions build between the two powers, the now divided city of Krasnoyarsk essentially becomes an equivalent to the era of the OTL Berlin Wall.
As it is not formally part of the Reich, emigration to the district is not officially encouraged, beyond the necessary military populations along the border with the Free Russian State (a Japanese satellite). Nevertheless, the Jenisseidistrikt has taken on a somewhat notorious population - that of the adherents of the German Faith Movement, more commonly known simply as Germanic paganism. The Jenisseidistrikt is something of a promised land for these people, who have come to dominate the tract of land which is within the German empire yet to some extent self-governing and free of Berlin's ever more stringent anti-religious policies. They are tolerated by Berlin: They are a fanatically loyal population, who even went to the extent of naming the Jenisseidistrikt's capital after Heinrich Himmler to get him on-side, and have their own ways of supporting the Reich: Most notoriously, they have embraced the practice of plural marriage - previously only legally extended to decorated soldiers - which since Hitler made the population of defeated Great Britain available, mostly consists of imported English captives becoming a massive concubine class, who also make up household servants and the like on Siberia's massive estates (the mining and factory work remains the preserve of the Slavs and other lesser peoples, who could never be entrusted with household and estate work).
To the left is the political map of the territory, and to the right a map of dioceses (which I guess I'd call something like Glaubensbewegunghain?) of the German Faith Movement.
(edit: based on this map - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Map_of_subdivisions_of_Russia.svg)
Together with German Turkestan, this colony of the Reich forms the border with the Japanese sphere, and is particularly heavily militarised, especially along the Militärgrenze, which stretches from Jenisseisk to the Arctic Ocean, and is headquartered in Nordkrasnojarsk. As tensions build between the two powers, the now divided city of Krasnoyarsk essentially becomes an equivalent to the era of the OTL Berlin Wall.
As it is not formally part of the Reich, emigration to the district is not officially encouraged, beyond the necessary military populations along the border with the Free Russian State (a Japanese satellite). Nevertheless, the Jenisseidistrikt has taken on a somewhat notorious population - that of the adherents of the German Faith Movement, more commonly known simply as Germanic paganism. The Jenisseidistrikt is something of a promised land for these people, who have come to dominate the tract of land which is within the German empire yet to some extent self-governing and free of Berlin's ever more stringent anti-religious policies. They are tolerated by Berlin: They are a fanatically loyal population, who even went to the extent of naming the Jenisseidistrikt's capital after Heinrich Himmler to get him on-side, and have their own ways of supporting the Reich: Most notoriously, they have embraced the practice of plural marriage - previously only legally extended to decorated soldiers - which since Hitler made the population of defeated Great Britain available, mostly consists of imported English captives becoming a massive concubine class, who also make up household servants and the like on Siberia's massive estates (the mining and factory work remains the preserve of the Slavs and other lesser peoples, who could never be entrusted with household and estate work).
To the left is the political map of the territory, and to the right a map of dioceses (which I guess I'd call something like Glaubensbewegunghain?) of the German Faith Movement.
(edit: based on this map - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Map_of_subdivisions_of_Russia.svg)
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A futurist Italy map that will take place in my TL. Italy falls to political chaos slightly earlier than OTL, and due to various butterfly’s the futurist movement supplants Fascism (Mussolini ends up as a Futurist lieutenant).
The regime manages to gain various territories, but peaks out as shown on the map. Areas in light grey are irredenta still claimed by the regime but in foreign hands.
I really like how the aesthetic seems to match the POD, if that makes sense. I'm curious as to how 'Libya' ended up the shape it did and also as to why there are no further irredentist claims in Albania: are the Italians happy with just the one port city there?
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Earlier on in the late 1890s, Italy had come to an arrangement over partitioning Tunisia (see in my TL). Ottoman Tripolitania ended up that shape as defined in the peace treaty to the Three Years War, of which the Ottomans were on the winning side (Hence Libya is a bit longer).
The Italians later conquered Ottoman Libya together with the Greeks who gained Cyrenaica. They very much have a special relationship, with similar futurist like dictatorships.
In terms of Albania, it doesn’t exist. Instead it’s divided between Greek Epirus, Montenegro and Serbia (the latter two forming Yugoslavia later on), as per the original partition plan before their OTL falling out in the Balkan War.
Controlling IRL Vlore is enough to block off the Adriatic, so my assumption is Italian irredentism is instead mostly focused to the north with the rump Austro-Hungarians (the Dalmatian coastal bits were occupied during Austria’s crisis/slow motion semi collapse in 1917, but the British prevented any more).
Otherwise Italian claims are mostly levied against the French. Italy was on the same losing side as them in the Three Years War. They blame the French for giving them the scraps of Tunisia (hence the claim to the rest), and for losing the war for their side. Corsica ends up as a very contentious sticking point in the 20th century, with Italian backed Corsican separatists fighting a northern Irish like conflict over the island.
Sorry that’s a very long and rambling explanation. Glad you like the map!
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ASB, considering you’ve drained the Georgia Straight and sunk Newfoundland.
Also borders along the St Lawrence River make 100 puppies sad per kilometre it is followed, and this one follows it all the way
To seriously answer: It’s an alternate future, maybe around the year 2080. Somehow we prevent rising sea levels. The southwest states have voted to rejoin Mexico on account of having majority Spanish speaking populations and more cultural ties, mostly due to immigration. The US reluctantly let them go but arranged a much closer post NAFTA/USMCA deal with Mexico that is more like a mini EU with free movement of people.
after the death of Queen Elizabeth II in the late 2020’s republicans comecrawling out of the woodwork across the remaining Commonwealth realms, Canada especially. Quebec separatism makes a comeback. Canada fractures into its provinces with only some regional associations remains. These small post Canadian states are gradually absorbed into the US, joining of their own free will. When Ontario (which kept calling itself Canada (only Manitoba and the territories stayed) joins it triggers a war with Quebec.
Mexico meanwhile has a incredible time modernizing and growing. They pupetise and then annex Central America.
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