Map Thread XX

Courtesy of u/Historynerd0921 from Reddit (HBNG-Kor on DeviantArt), Red Flag over Seoul: a 1970 Korea where the North emerged mostly victorious, with the rump South reduced to the rough boundaries of the Pusan Perimeter.
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Thousands of bodies laid dead on the shores of Inchon. General Douglas MacArthur's rash plan to land at Inchon, take Seoul, cut the North Korean supply lines and recover South Korea had turned into a catastrophe as almost everyone had predicted. Everyone except the bigoted general, who was soon sacked for being responsible for thousands of American deaths on Inchon's shores, all for nothing. Not all the steam for fighting was gone, but the will for offensive operations had been greatly reduced among the American command in Korea. A few attempts at landing in Wonsan, Yosu, and Mokpo were made, but with lacking support and extremely cautious generals, no good progress could be made.

By 1952, South Korea looked little different from mid-1950, with the Nakdong River defence line staying stagnant and a few strongholds being established in Southern Cholla province. With increasing casualties and an unresolved stalemate, pressure was mounting up on the army to end the war, as the conflict was turning unpopular day by day. Inclined to do something that would either improve the opinion on the war or pull the North Koreans to the negotiating table, the commanders drew up a plan for a coordinated operation to retake Kwangju, a major city in southern Korea.

September 1953: the operation was commenced with initial victories as the Americans neared Kwangju. But then, the North Koreans offered to begin negotiating for a peace. Though North Korean lands north of the 38th parallel was unscathed by any land battles throughout the war, that did not mean that they could avoid the might of the American air power. Cities across North Korea were bombed throughout the war by American bombers departing from air bases across Japan and what was left of South Korea, which wore away North Korea's war machine bit by bit and nurturing discontent among the North Korean populace. This reality, coalesced with a sudden offensive from the Americans, had coerced Kim Il Sung into peace talks against his will. Negotiations were long and often broke down, but they nevertheless continued. The American offensive on Kwangju, despite the generals' requests, were stopped in fears of provoking the North Koreans and destroying a chance to exit the war.

In the end, an armistice was signed and the war ended with a North Korean victory, as South Korea was reduced into a rump state at the edge of the Korean peninsula. South Korean president Syngman Rhee objected to the armistice at first, but with threats to abandon him entirely if he did not accept the armistice, Rhee caved and agreed to the terms of peace. Rhee was forced to resign a few months after the war in 1954, with Pyung-Ok Chough taking office as the new post-Rhee president. Pyung-Ok Chough, as a staunch anti-communist he was, instituted dictatorial measures that resulted in notable socialist figures such as Cho Bong-Am being taken behind bars. No matter how brutal Chough's reign was, it was ended by not the will of the people, but the forces of nature - cardiovascular symptoms after his abdomen surgery. In the post-Chough drama, the military enacted a coup and accepted a return to democracy, citing their cause as political and social unrest in post-Chough South Korea that threatened the survival of the state. The Supreme Council for National Reconstruction was instituted as the provisional government, with Kim Jong-Pil as its head. Though the military's provisional government did not last due to public pressure, the key figures in the military coup participated in the ensuing elections and elected themselves into key political figures, continuing the military dictatorship that continues today under Kim Jong-Pil.

In North Korea, the triumph had greatly elevated Kim Il-Sung's position in the country even further, resulting in the opposing factions in the Worker's Party of Korea being purged and an incontestable cult of personality being formed around Kim Il-Sung. In Japan, with an imminent communist threat so close to home, the Japanese constitution was amended to facilitate the recreation of the military with American and domestic support in fear of the ascendant communists throughout Asia. In 1953, President Harry Truman stepped down in shame with his term ending, being criticized to be unable to contain the growing communist threat in Asia. Though South Korea survived as a state, there was no denying that the Korean War was a defeat for the Americans; an uneasy start to the Cold War for the free world.
 
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Courtesy of u/Historynerd0921 from Reddit (HBNG-Kor on DeviantArt), a 1970 map where communist Korea emerged mostly victorious: Red Flag over Seoul.
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Thousands of bodies laid dead on the shores of Inchon. General Douglass MacArthur's rash plan to land at Inchon, take Seoul, cut the North Korean supply lines and recover South Korea had turned into a catastrophe as almost everyone had predicted. Everyone except the bigoted general, who was soon sacked for being responsible for the death of thousands of Americans on Inchon's shores, all for nothing. Not all the steam for fighting was gone, but the will for offensive operations had been greatly reduced among the American command in Korea. A few attempts at landing in Wonsan, Yosu, and Mokpo were made, but with lacking support and extremely cautious generals, no good progress could be made.

By 1952, South Korea looked little different from mid-1950, with the Nakdong River defence line staying stagnant and a few strongholds being established in Southern Cholla province. With increasing casualties and an unresolved stalemate, pressure was mounting up on the army to end the war, as the conflict was turning unpopular day by day. Inclined to do something that would either improve the opinion on the war or pull the North Koreans to the negotiating table, the commanders drew up a plan for a coordinated operation to retake Kwangju, a major city in southern Korea.

September 1953: the operation was commenced with initial victories as the Americans neared Kwangju. But then, the North Koreans offered to begin negotiating for a peace. Though North Korean lands north of the 38th parallel was unscathed by any land battles throughout the war, that did not mean that they could avoid the might of the American air power. Cities across North Korea were bombed throughout the war by American bombers departing from air bases across Japan and what was left of South Korea, which wore away North Korea's war machine bit by bit and nurturing discontent among the North Korean populace. This reality, coalesced with a sudden offensive from the Americans, had coerced Kim Il Sung into peace talks against his will. Negotiations were long and often broke down, but they nevertheless continued. The American offensive on Kwangju, despite the generals' requests, were stopped in fears of provoking the North Koreans and destroying a chance to exit the war.

In the end, an armistice was signed and the war ended with a North Korean victory, as South Korea was reduced into a rump state at the edge of the Korean peninsula. South Korean president Syngman Rhee objected to the armistice at first, but with threats to abandon him entirely if he did not accept the armistice, Rhee caved and agreed to the terms of peace. Rhee was forced to resign a few months after the war in 1954, with Pyung-Ok Chough taking office as the new post-Rhee president. Pyung-Ok Chough, as a staunch anti-communist he was, instituted dictatorial measures that resulted in notable socialist figures such as Cho Bong-Am being taken behind bars. No matter how brutal Chough's reign was, it was ended by not the will of the people, but the forces of nature - cardiovascular symptoms after his abdomen surgery. In the post-Chough drama, the military enacted a coup and accepted a return to democracy, citing their cause as political and social unrest in post-Chough South Korea that threatened the survival of the state. The Supreme Council for National Reconstruction was instituted as the provisional government, with Kim Jong-Pil as its head. Though the military's provisional government did not last due to public pressure, the key figures in the military coup participated in the ensuing elections and elected themselves into key political figures, continuing the military dictatorship that continues today under Kim Jong-Pil.

In North Korea, the triumph had greatly elevated Kim Il-Sung's position in the country even further, resulting in the opposing factions in the Worker's Party of Korea being purged and an uncontestable cult of personality being formed around Kim Il-Sung. In Japan, with an imminent communist threat so close to home, the Japanese constitution was amended to facilitate the recreation of the military with American and domestic support in fear of the ascendent communists throughout Asia. In 1953, President Harry Truman stepped down in shame with his term ending, being criticized to be unable to contain the growing communist threat in Asia. Though South Korea survived as a state, there was no denying that the Korean War was a defeat, an uneasy onset of the Cold War for the Americans.

While I have doubles of the failure of Inchon, and the failed breakout from the Pusan perimeter, (By the time of Inchon the US/UN and SK forces greatly outnumber the nine or ten North Korean divisions facing them. The North Koreans have stretched their supply lines to breaking point trying to pierce the defences around Pusan, and would have great difficulties in bringing up supplies or reinforcements even without a landing at Inchon.)

This is a lovely map with very interesting affects from this.

From Japan getting it military back and A9 being throw out the window to the enlarged North Korea and the affects on the Cold War to little rump South Korea hanging on.
 
Courtesy of u/Historynerd0921 from Reddit (HBNG-Kor on DeviantArt), Red Flag over Seoul: a 1970 Korea where the North emerged mostly victorious, with the rump South reduced to the rough boundaries of the Pusan Perimeter.
0sjm2k8jg9071.png

Thousands of bodies laid dead on the shores of Inchon. General Douglas MacArthur's rash plan to land at Inchon, take Seoul, cut the North Korean supply lines and recover South Korea had turned into a catastrophe as almost everyone had predicted. Everyone except the bigoted general, who was soon sacked for being responsible for thousands of American deaths on Inchon's shores, all for nothing. Not all the steam for fighting was gone, but the will for offensive operations had been greatly reduced among the American command in Korea. A few attempts at landing in Wonsan, Yosu, and Mokpo were made, but with lacking support and extremely cautious generals, no good progress could be made.

By 1952, South Korea looked little different from mid-1950, with the Nakdong River defence line staying stagnant and a few strongholds being established in Southern Cholla province. With increasing casualties and an unresolved stalemate, pressure was mounting up on the army to end the war, as the conflict was turning unpopular day by day. Inclined to do something that would either improve the opinion on the war or pull the North Koreans to the negotiating table, the commanders drew up a plan for a coordinated operation to retake Kwangju, a major city in southern Korea.

September 1953: the operation was commenced with initial victories as the Americans neared Kwangju. But then, the North Koreans offered to begin negotiating for a peace. Though North Korean lands north of the 38th parallel was unscathed by any land battles throughout the war, that did not mean that they could avoid the might of the American air power. Cities across North Korea were bombed throughout the war by American bombers departing from air bases across Japan and what was left of South Korea, which wore away North Korea's war machine bit by bit and nurturing discontent among the North Korean populace. This reality, coalesced with a sudden offensive from the Americans, had coerced Kim Il Sung into peace talks against his will. Negotiations were long and often broke down, but they nevertheless continued. The American offensive on Kwangju, despite the generals' requests, were stopped in fears of provoking the North Koreans and destroying a chance to exit the war.

In the end, an armistice was signed and the war ended with a North Korean victory, as South Korea was reduced into a rump state at the edge of the Korean peninsula. South Korean president Syngman Rhee objected to the armistice at first, but with threats to abandon him entirely if he did not accept the armistice, Rhee caved and agreed to the terms of peace. Rhee was forced to resign a few months after the war in 1954, with Pyung-Ok Chough taking office as the new post-Rhee president. Pyung-Ok Chough, as a staunch anti-communist he was, instituted dictatorial measures that resulted in notable socialist figures such as Cho Bong-Am being taken behind bars. No matter how brutal Chough's reign was, it was ended by not the will of the people, but the forces of nature - cardiovascular symptoms after his abdomen surgery. In the post-Chough drama, the military enacted a coup and accepted a return to democracy, citing their cause as political and social unrest in post-Chough South Korea that threatened the survival of the state. The Supreme Council for National Reconstruction was instituted as the provisional government, with Kim Jong-Pil as its head. Though the military's provisional government did not last due to public pressure, the key figures in the military coup participated in the ensuing elections and elected themselves into key political figures, continuing the military dictatorship that continues today under Kim Jong-Pil.

In North Korea, the triumph had greatly elevated Kim Il-Sung's position in the country even further, resulting in the opposing factions in the Worker's Party of Korea being purged and an incontestable cult of personality being formed around Kim Il-Sung. In Japan, with an imminent communist threat so close to home, the Japanese constitution was amended to facilitate the recreation of the military with American and domestic support in fear of the ascendant communists throughout Asia. In 1953, President Harry Truman stepped down in shame with his term ending, being criticized to be unable to contain the growing communist threat in Asia. Though South Korea survived as a state, there was no denying that the Korean War was a defeat for the Americans; an uneasy start to the Cold War for the free world.
So what happens to "South Korea"? Japanese appendage (I bet that would go over well)? Giant US military base? BFFs with Taiwan? Desperate attempt at far-north Singapore, except without the whole "critical transport hub" thing?
 
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Another map of Europe at 05th May 1944 from the timeline 1940 - La France continue la guerre (France fights on).

  • It's been 3 days since the British landed in Normandy with relative ease, the deception of the false landing in Calais has worked, Caen is expected to fall within a few days and with the Allied forces preparing to cross the Dordogne front, the German situation in France becomes untenable.
  • The Italian front is still stagnated along the Gothic line. In the Alps, the French forces have come to a standstill against the German and Italo-fascist forces.
  • The battle of the Vistula continues, the Warsaw uprising will not last much longer than 3 months. In Slovakia however, the uprising against the Nazis and the Slovak fascist government sees relative success.
  • Romania has been almost completely liberated, Soviet-Romanian forces prepare to invade Hungary.
  • Following the liberation of Belgrade, King Peter II and Marshal Tito will be forced to make concessions and compromises for the new postwar Yugoslavia.

(Note, this map is only canon at the Italian, Albanian, Yugoslav and Occitan fronts, the story is still being written and it's at 1944, the Eastern and Normany fronts are courtesy of @PauL62 post here: https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/map-thread-xx.492239/page-49 )
 
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I guess the Chetniks here are subsumed into the WAllies? Or the Dinara Division got destroyed?

A bad time to be a German in occupied Serbia, since the very instant the Western Allies land, all their collaborates will immediately turn on them with a vengeance
 

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Here's a map of the Republic of Colombia in 1860 that I commissioned for my Gran Colombia Timeline!

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Credits go to Luk_Zloty: reddit and devianart.
I was going to go read that since it is a very nicemap, but woah, huge! ;-)

Would you mind giving a TL;DR and how Colombia in this timeline avoided being so ridden with internal conflict that it was able to stay together?
 
I guess the Chetniks here are subsumed into the WAllies? Or the Dinara Division got destroyed?

A bad time to be a German in occupied Serbia, since the very instant the Western Allies land, all their collaborates will immediately turn on them with a vengeance
If I’m not wrong the chetniks will be purged as OTL since Tito has the upper hand. Yet
King Peter II will remain on his throne with Tito as Prime Minister founding the Socialist Federal Kingdom of Yugoslavia
 
Thank you! I might make a successor map focusing on this idea :)

I've also updated the map with some more detailed lore.

Sounds really good, Azerbaijan have always been a pretty easy place to make large linguistic change and with theRus hitting in the middle of the Turkish, it would be even easier.
 
If I’m not wrong the chetniks will be purged as OTL since Tito has the upper hand. Yet
King Peter II will remain on his throne with Tito as Prime Minister founding the Socialist Federal Kingdom of Yugoslavia
That is the most blessed thing I have ever seen and I work on TRO
 
So, I was discussing the phenomenon of "Ideal World Maps" that was big a few years back with some people & I decided to make something of a parody on the concept.

It takes 1 part things I actually believe in scaled up to insane amounts I no longer support & 6 parts things I meme on scaled up to even greater insanity. I tried to subvert the tropes of these maps as well, which, since I don't like Britwanks, Ameriwanks, & Deutschwanks that pretend to be wholesome wasn't hard, but I also in a roundabout way followed many of the tropes intentionally. For example, the implicit genocide that was a staple of such maps is explicit here & is in one case reversed onto white Christians, namely Mormons (I guess one might see this as a monstrous and evil hyperexaggeration of me taking issue with a few things in the LDS creed). The map is, as should be obvious to any non-psychopath, not an ideal world. I might even say it's worse. This is also not meant to insult people who made such maps, rather to poke fun at trends, tropes, & a few unfortunately questionable maps that were posted. It is an experiment in implicit & explicit cursedness. This isn't in shitposts just because the map actually turned out not too bad for a Worlda.

If this post shouldn't be here or shouldn't be posted at all to begin with, I am happy to oblige, though, again, I DO NOT ACTUALLY ENDORSE THE VAST MAJORITY OF THIS MAP, LIKE LITERALLY I ENDORSE THE PROTECTION OF THE AMAZON RAINFOREST, MAKING FUN OF AUSTRALIANS, AND PAN SLAVISM, NOT ALL THE OTHER MADNESS AND EVEN THE STUFF I SUPPORT IS MOSTLY WARPED THROUGH EXAGGERATION. It is a parody. Without further ado, get ready to cry:


Americas:

- The US has been partitioned between Canada and Mexico. Canada is a republic, overall quite inclusive & democratic, healthcare & shit. Mexico is a growing economic powerhouse. The Free States of the South are a majority-black democratic republic. Black people are present and welcome throughout the Americas, but if they want a state by black people and unofficially for black people, they can move here. Owning a confederate flag is punishable by spanking with a willow frond. The Mormon extermination zone is going well.
- The Zapatistas finally broke away - Haiti got big & also ate almost all European possessions in the Caribbean
- Guyana & Trinidad-Tobago are one
- Beeg Colombia, Venezuela, & Bolivia, the classic Argentina gets Uruguay & Las Malvinas (go away anglo)
- French Guyana is free as the Republic of Amazonia
- The Amazon is a UN international park that somehow actually functions.
- Hawaii & Oklahoma are independent states in free association with Mexico. To continue living the American lifestyle, go to Virginia, the rump/puppet Canada keeps around

Europe:

- The Vatican is gone
- Bit more Poldering by the Dutch
- Germany has been deleted. So have Austria & Belgium. France ends at the Rhine, Bayern got thicc, Sorbia is free, Poland can into west, the Danes & Dutch also got a bit. What's left is a UN occupation zone whose governing council must consist of one Jew, on Slav, & one Romani along with 2 others.
- Big autonomy in Spain
- Slovakia gets Carpathian Ruthenia, Poland wank Poland wank. The Slavs, Balts & Romanians coalesce into a EU-style union, the Russians are kept out to avoid them dominating. What's left of Ukraine after the Russo-Polish partition is a Slavic Union occupation zone as punishment for being cringe. Yugoslavia is back & bigger. Serbia looks oddly different this time... hmmmmm. Also that's not Croatia, it's Slovenia.
- United Ireland, you can't take away Scotland's FREEDOOOOOOOOOM, England is occupied by various former colonies to extract reparations. All living members of the royal family are enslaved, the next generation will be freed though

Asia:

- The Saudis lose land to Yemen, Oman, & a restored Hejaz under the Jordanian Hashemites
- Kurdish autonomy in Syria
- Israel & Palestine 1 state 2 nations federal solution
- Armenia gets Karabakh
- Persia gets big. Why? Iran has cool history & I like. Unfortunately for Shahaboos, it's still an Islamic republic, but the authoritarianism has mellowed out substantially
- Free Karakalpakstan
- United India, but Muslim autonomy is respected
- Bhutan wank
- Federalized China
- United Korea. The DPRK is actually Democratic by the magic power of wholesomechungusization
- That's Laos, not Thailand
- Weebland loses the Ryukyus
- Big Pilipinas, also Brunei is eaten, Sarawak gets its own subnational monarchy in the Malaysian rotary system. Free Timor, united Papua
- Champa gets autonomy! The Cham aren't gone!
- North Sentinel Island stands as a shining light of primitivism in a world of technological advancement. They don't need your fancy tech & nominal Indian sovereignty

Greater & lesser Zealandia:

- The Waititi Kingdom of Aotearoa reigns supreme! One specific town in the former Australia has been destroyed by flooding. The Australians are happy to live under their wholesome chungus Maori overlords.

Africa:

- The Libyan Jamhiriya is restored under the leadership of the Libyan-Yugoslav band Jamhiriya. Gadaffism spreads out, but not too far
- Long Egypt
- The Green Sahara project is going well in the refloration area. Expanding Lake Chad has also been a great succes
- Western Sahara is free
- Chad is partitioned by Libya & the Central African Republic as punishment for supporting Kosovo
- Most of Sub-Saharan Africa has changed little beyond the occasional regional supranational union & the arbitrary unification of the Congos "lmao similar name also I'm tired of seeing the DRC partitioned", in keeping with the "if I don't know the region, I won't change it much just to be safe" trope in such maps

Broader:

- Island colonies & small overseas territories are either given independence or attached to a nearby former colony of the same power if they're largely uninhabited




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La France continue la guerre (France fights on)
I like that TL but haven't managed to follow it all that well. Thanks for the maps!
Ideal World Maps
Actually, that Canada looks genuinely good. Libya is alright. The Saharan development zone is a cool idea. New Zealand is

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I like that TL but haven't managed to follow it all that well. Thanks for the maps!

Actually, that Canada looks genuinely good. Libya is alright. The Saharan development zone is a cool idea. New Zealand is

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Thanks, though that Canada would definitely quickly become a case of the tail wagging the dog. Ah yes, AltGeo isn't for everyone. Honestly, I usually don't like it much myself, but I do like the concepts of Zealandia & a thawed out Antarctic archipelago. As for Libya, well, most people don't like Gadaffism & visually, yeah I'm happy enough with it.
 
So, I was discussing the phenomenon of "Ideal World Maps" that was big a few years back with some people & I decided to make something of a parody on the concept.

It takes 1 part things I actually believe in scaled up to insane amounts I no longer support & 6 parts things I meme on scaled up to even greater insanity. I tried to subvert the tropes of these maps as well, which, since I don't like Britwanks, Ameriwanks, & Deutschwanks that pretend to be wholesome wasn't hard, but I also in a roundabout way followed many of the tropes intentionally. For example, the implicit genocide that was a staple of such maps is explicit here & is in one case reversed onto white Christians, namely Mormons (I guess one might see this as a monstrous and evil hyperexaggeration of me taking issue with a few things in the LDS creed). The map is, as should be obvious to any non-psychopath, not an ideal world. I might even say it's worse. This is also not meant to insult people who made such maps, rather to poke fun at trends, tropes, & a few unfortunately questionable maps that were posted. It is an experiment in implicit & explicit cursedness. This isn't in shitposts just because the map actually turned out not too bad for a Worlda.

If this post shouldn't be here or shouldn't be posted at all to begin with, I am happy to oblige, though, again, I DO NOT ACTUALLY ENDORSE THE VAST MAJORITY OF THIS MAP, LIKE LITERALLY I ENDORSE THE PROTECTION OF THE AMAZON RAINFOREST, MAKING FUN OF AUSTRALIANS, AND PAN SLAVISM, NOT ALL THE OTHER MADNESS AND EVEN THE STUFF I SUPPORT IS MOSTLY WARPED THROUGH EXAGGERATION. It is a parody. Without further ado, get ready to cry:


Americas:

- The US has been partitioned between Canada and Mexico. Canada is a republic, overall quite inclusive & democratic, healthcare & shit. Mexico is a growing economic powerhouse. The Free States of the South are a majority-black democratic republic. Black people are present and welcome throughout the Americas, but if they want a state by black people and unofficially for black people, they can move here. Owning a confederate flag is punishable by spanking with a willow frond. The Mormon extermination zone is going well.
- The Zapatistas finally broke away - Haiti got big & also ate almost all European possessions in the Caribbean
- Guyana & Trinidad-Tobago are one
- Beeg Colombia, Venezuela, & Bolivia, the classic Argentina gets Uruguay & Las Malvinas (go away anglo)
- French Guyana is free as the Republic of Amazonia
- The Amazon is a UN international park that somehow actually functions.
- Hawaii & Oklahoma are independent states in free association with Mexico. To continue living the American lifestyle, go to Virginia, the rump/puppet Canada keeps around

Europe:

- The Vatican is gone
- Bit more Poldering by the Dutch
- Germany has been deleted. So have Austria & Belgium. France ends at the Rhine, Bayern got thicc, Sorbia is free, Poland can into west, the Danes & Dutch also got a bit. What's left is a UN occupation zone whose governing council must consist of one Jew, on Slav, & one Romani along with 2 others.
- Big autonomy in Spain
- Slovakia gets Carpathian Ruthenia, Poland wank Poland wank. The Slavs, Balts & Romanians coalesce into a EU-style union, the Russians are kept out to avoid them dominating. What's left of Ukraine after the Russo-Polish partition is a Slavic Union occupation zone as punishment for being cringe. Yugoslavia is back & bigger. Serbia looks oddly different this time... hmmmmm. Also that's not Croatia, it's Slovenia.
- United Ireland, you can't take away Scotland's FREEDOOOOOOOOOM, England is occupied by various former colonies to extract reparations. All living members of the royal family are enslaved, the next generation will be freed though

Asia:

- The Saudis lose land to Yemen, Oman, & a restored Hejaz under the Jordanian Hashemites
- Kurdish autonomy in Syria
- Israel & Palestine 1 state 2 nations federal solution
- Armenia gets Karabakh
- Persia gets big. Why? Iran has cool history & I like. Unfortunately for Shahaboos, it's still an Islamic republic, but the authoritarianism has mellowed out substantially
- Free Karakalpakstan
- United India, but Muslim autonomy is respected
- Bhutan wank
- Federalized China
- United Korea. The DPRK is actually Democratic by the magic power of wholesomechungusization
- That's Laos, not Thailand
- Weebland loses the Ryukyus
- Big Pilipinas, also Brunei is eaten, Sarawak gets its own subnational monarchy in the Malaysian rotary system. Free Timor, united Papua
- Champa gets autonomy! The Cham aren't gone!
- North Sentinel Island stands as a shining light of primitivism in a world of technological advancement. They don't need your fancy tech & nominal Indian sovereignty

Greater & lesser Zealandia:

- The Waititi Kingdom of Aotearoa reigns supreme! One specific town in the former Australia has been destroyed by flooding. The Australians are happy to live under their wholesome chungus Maori overlords.

Africa:

- The Libyan Jamhiriya is restored under the leadership of the Libyan-Yugoslav band Jamhiriya. Gadaffism spreads out, but not too far
- Long Egypt
- The Green Sahara project is going well in the refloration area. Expanding Lake Chad has also been a great succes
- Western Sahara is free
- Chad is partitioned by Libya & the Central African Republic as punishment for supporting Kosovo
- Most of Sub-Saharan Africa has changed little beyond the occasional regional supranational union & the arbitrary unification of the Congos "lmao similar name also I'm tired of seeing the DRC partitioned", in keeping with the "if I don't know the region, I won't change it much just to be safe" trope in such maps

Broader:

- Island colonies & small overseas territories are either given independence or attached to a nearby former colony of the same power if they're largely uninhabited




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I like the idea. I remember seeing the old thread for this long ago. I don’t think this is too bad, actually - besides the bit about the Mormons - we have a democratic unified Korea, united Ireland, federalized China, what seems to be peace in the Middle East, what’s not to like? There’s even reparations for England’s former colonies! (But France gets to grow larger, seems kinda unfair, admittedly those borders at the Rhine are pretty sexy)
 
I was going to go read that since it is a very nicemap, but woah, huge! ;-)

Would you mind giving a TL;DR and how Colombia in this timeline avoided being so ridden with internal conflict that it was able to stay together?
Mostly a result of an earlier end to a much less destructive Independence Wars. The OTL independence wars lasted like two decades and left Colombia devastated. This devastation exacerbated or caused most of the internal divisions. Being better off, Colombia was capable of investing in the infrastructure and development that convinced enough people that the Union was worth it.
 
I like the idea. I remember seeing the old thread for this long ago. I don’t think this is too bad, actually - besides the bit about the Mormons - we have a democratic unified Korea, united Ireland, federalized China, what seems to be peace in the Middle East, what’s not to like? There’s even reparations for England’s former colonies! (But France gets to grow larger, seems kinda unfair, admittedly those borders at the Rhine are pretty sexy)
Well, in keeping with “this is a parody of the ideal map genre”, there are certainly many elements that are actually nice (though if I really wanted to make fun of ideal maps I’d have colonies, but the point was to mostly reverse that), while there is also stuff that is either explicitly or implicitly less than ideal, ie countries having puppet states, sub Saharan Africa still being a mess, etc & then of course Croatia ceasing to exist because “lmao when I am Serb” is obviously not an actually good thing. The Korean situation was meant to be a commentary on those “Rhodesia is still around but it’s wholesome now”, so I took the opposite sort of state, instead of a right wing hellstate, a famous left wing hellstate, wanted it but then made it wholesome. Some things are a real improvement on OTL though for sure, but just as many things are cursed.
 
Okay! I have the greatest map project of your lifetime, but it's a .json file. Those can't be attached. I converted it to a .txt file. It's too big.

Help.

Next time I'm using paint.net.
 
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