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[spoonzandforkz]

Two Economic Titans - What if Russia wasn't screwed by the 20th Century

Tackled an idea I've had for a long time (with my memory being jogged by the TFS timeline). Basically, what if Russia isn't screwed over by all the catastrophes it went through during the 20th century - WW1, the civil war, WW2 etc. Essentially, Russia continues to industrialise, and with a much larger population than OTL, is able to economically challenge the US by the late 1960s.

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Awesome map! Russia really had a terrible 20th century OTL - there's not really a lot of Russo-wanks around, though.

A couple of questions, if they're fine:

1. Is there a cold war brewing between the two superpowers (besides US and UK chastisement of Russia's lack of democracy in the last paragraphs)? Perhaps there might be no ideological conflict to add to the fire here like capitalism vs communism, but one wonders when one looks at the Russia's quick convergence on the American economy.

2.. How's Europe here? Is it integrated a la the European Union or European Economic Area? And what about their colonial empires? Do they still exist? (besides the British Commonwealth, which I assume is a federal type thingy)


3. Without the Soviet example, did any countries turn socialist or communist? (IMO, I actually think the socialist cause might be stronger at least in the Western world, given less association with famine-prone Stalinist dictatorships, which is obviously butterflied here)

 

[Ski-U-Mahdi]

Emirate of Egypt - the Great Arab Empire (circa 1910)
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This map shows the mighty Emirate of Egypt and its vassal states, with their capitals marked with a star, and the rest of important cities marked by a point.

The vassal states are:
- Rashidi Emirate of Ha'il
- Sultanate of Aussa
- Ethiopian Empire
- Emirate of al-Hasa
- Majerteen Sultanate

Nice map. Heads up though, The arabic script you used is placed incorrectly. Arabic is read right to left, however, you placed the letters left to right. It should look like this: امارة مصر

 

[MultiplePOD]

My Grand Project: World! (Working Title)
Here's what I have so far:

• my inability to attach text files to my reply here
• help
• over 25 slides of alternate-history fun
• breaking of stereotypes, hopefully
• seriously how do i attach a text file

A .json file specifically.

 

[Gust]

Here's a complete political nano worlda.

 

[LoneStarCowboy]

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Here's a complete political nano worlda.

Oh God, that's tiny

 

[Selvetrica]

Ive been working on this for about a week or two and wanted to show it to a greater audience . This is the world of Nuala, Land of Green Mist. A fantasy Ireland based on the book of Invasions that will be for a DND campaign.

 

[Gust]

And here's a pico worlda... 64 times smaller than normal worlda. I promise I won't do more.

 

[Frank Hart]

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I think you accidentally annexed Vietnam into China.

Also, the Central American states should still be visible at this scale.

 

[Gust]

I think you accidentally annexed Vietnam into China.

Also, the Central American states should still be visible at this scale.

Yeah Vietnam is a mistake. I may have a look at CA again.

 

[JackLumber]

 

[FancyHat]

gotta say, not a huge fan of the choice of color for Ethiopia

 

[JackLumber]

gotta say, not a huge fan of the choice of color for Ethiopia

I was running out of colours don't breath too much into it

 

[PobreCesar]

Here's a complete political nano worlda.

Oddly addictive to use.

And here's a pico world

At this point the deformation of geography is starting to make this an alternate history map of the asb variety all on its own.

 

[PobreCesar]

Since it exists...

An approximation of In the Presence of Mine Enemies by Harry Turtledove.

Basically, the idea was that the Axis wins WW2 and then wins an implicitly nuclear WW3 against the US and friends. I took the liberty of assuming that the Iranians and Indians (mentioned to have been conquered) were incorporated after this war. China is split in two and the larger, Southern government has to permit Japanese troops to enter the costal zone at will. New Zealand has been partitioned. Argentina was rewarded for its large Italian population. Germany has made an extensive economic zone in South America in addition to its tributes from subordinate members of the Greater German Empire (ex. Britain) and occupied countries (ex. Canada). South Africa was mentioned as being independent so I had the Germans give them Nigeria. Spain was rewarded for its cooperation, the Arabian peninsula is under joint Italo-German occupation with Yemen going to the Italians and Oman going to the Germans. I also wonder if maybe in this world the Arab unification projects were a little more successful until they got smashed in WW3.

I know IPoME is not the most realistic work of alternate history as history, but I will say it was (in my humble opinion) a good book as a book about the suffering of the characters forced to live in hiding their whole lives.

 

[ogabola]

I know you're no good for me
But you've become a part of me
Everywhere I go, your face I see
Every step I take, you take with me
Nowhere to run to, baby
Nowhere to hide
Got nowhere to run to, baby
Nowhere to hide
I know you're no good for me
But free of you, I'll never be...​

take your meds

 

[Unkown00]

What if the Entente won the Second Great War?


In this alternate world, the United States under Herbert Hoover would continue to get worse and worse as the economy continues to decline. Meanwhile, the confederacy does better, because why not. By the time the Great War began, the US was unprepared, much more than in the series. This allows the Confederacy to push across the nation, capturing Philadelphia and Los Angelis. Meanwhile, in Europe, the Germans are outnumbered on all sides, and Berlin begins superbombed by the British (who developed the weapon first) forced them to surrender. Finally, the US surrender in 1945, with New York being superbomed. With the end of the war, Germany and the US were balkanize. Eventually, a cold war develops between the West (lead by the Confederacy) and the East (Lead by the Russians).

 

[Oxander]

What if the Entente won the Second Great War?


In this alternate world, the United States under Herbert Hoover would continue to get worse and worse as the economy continues to decline. Meanwhile, the confederacy does better, because why not. By the time the Great War began, the US was unprepared, much more than in the series. This allows the Confederacy to push across the nation, capturing Philadelphia and Los Angelis. Meanwhile, in Europe, the Germans are outnumbered on all sides, and Berlin begins superbombed by the British (who developed the weapon first) forced them to surrender. Finally, the US surrender in 1945, with New York being superbomed. With the end of the war, Germany and the US were balkanize. Eventually, a cold war develops between the West (lead by the Confederacy) and the East (Lead by the Russians).

Hey, that's neat. You mind if I futz with it and maybe do a variation/cover?

 

[Unkown00]

Hey, that's neat. You mind if I futz with it and maybe do a variation/cover?

Just credit me for the original map, then sure.

 

[Oxander]

Just credit me for the original map, then sure.

Already there!

Neato, lemme see what kind of bonkers nonsense I can come up with.

 

[FesteringSpore]

A rather basic one; a world where Italy times its defection to the Allies waaaaay better than OTL, resulting in Fascist Italy surviving and emerging to lead its own bloc following Germany's defeat. Done in the Diamond basemap style, so a bit more minimalistic than your average fare.

I might do a present-day map at some point.

And as always, I'll field questions if there are any.