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I didn't touch either of those one but the former it's the result of the Turkish invasion in 1974 and the founding of the Turkish republic of northern Cyprus in 1983. Ireland did claim North at that time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Cyprus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articles_2_and_3_of_the_Constitution_of_Ireland
For Norhter Cyprus I was more thinking because of the state of Turkey itself. I doubt it could be ejected from NATO (and had early fears against the Soviets due to them trying to make them give up substantial territories) so I don't see them going pro-Soviet, even if it were just nominal, like from the Cold War's earlier proxy wars and such in the Middle East. I also feel you should go over the Western Sahara again. Perhaps have it be split like it did IOTL between Mauritania and Morocco, with Mauritania getting the southern third. The independence groups may still manage to wreck the mines that got Mauritania half its annual income here, but as the country as a whole is much large rectangular it wouldn't matter. I expect a lot could be done about the arguments between Maghreb states here. And which of the states in Africa where supported by the French here? The third link posted relates to that.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_territorial_claims_against_Turkey
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Straits_crisis
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/coldwar2.htm
 
Map of the US northeast and Canada, 200 years after the Nuclear war and 170 years after the foundation of the New UN in Laos.
 

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I’ll be happy to help out. :)

Perhaps some declining *Hunnic steppe empire spanning Eastern Europe?

I was in fact actually thinking of Eastern/Central Europe as the crumbling fringes of some sort of Steppe empire, if perhaps a few cycles of Inner Asia later than the Huns. Sort of like in GURPS Ezcalli. Not quite sure about the ethnic balance, I'm unsure as to the status of Germanic peoples south of Denmark and the Baltic (overrun by Slavs pushed west? Mixed with the Celts? Confined to a Slavic/Celtic borderland? Pushed into north Italy and the Balkans?) In any event, with the Roman empire never really getting off the ground there has been no spread of monotheist religion from the Middle East to north Europe, and most of the area is various flavors of paganism and fragmented politically west of the *Khanate, although there might be Buddhists in eastern Europe (another thing I'm thinking about)
 
I was in fact actually thinking of Eastern/Central Europe as the crumbling fringes of some sort of Steppe empire, if perhaps a few cycles of Inner Asia later than the Huns. Sort of like in GURPS Ezcalli. Not quite sure about the ethnic balance, I'm unsure as to the status of Germanic peoples south of Denmark and the Baltic (overrun by Slavs pushed west? Mixed with the Celts? Confined to a Slavic/Celtic borderland? Pushed into north Italy and the Balkans?) In any event, with the Roman empire never really getting off the ground there has been no spread of monotheist religion from the Middle East to north Europe, and most of the area is various flavors of paganism and fragmented politically west of the *Khanate, although there might be Buddhists in eastern Europe (another thing I'm thinking about)


Could be shamanistic Turks. They are bound to show up sooner or later, unless the POD is very old. Much more likely compared to the Mongols anyway.
 
I have some pointers
1. All borders should remain 1 pixel thick to maximize detail and make it generally look better.
2. Boxes showing who controls what small islands (ie. Hawaii or the Falklands) should remain as boxes unless absolutely necessary
3. Most borders (especially in the old world) should refrain from being rounded or straight.
Thanks for the advice, i’ll Make some changes to fit what you said
 
I was in fact actually thinking of Eastern/Central Europe as the crumbling fringes of some sort of Steppe empire, if perhaps a few cycles of Inner Asia later than the Huns. Sort of like in GURPS Ezcalli. Not quite sure about the ethnic balance, I'm unsure as to the status of Germanic peoples south of Denmark and the Baltic (overrun by Slavs pushed west? Mixed with the Celts? Confined to a Slavic/Celtic borderland? Pushed into north Italy and the Balkans?) In any event, with the Roman empire never really getting off the ground there has been no spread of monotheist religion from the Middle East to north Europe, and most of the area is various flavors of paganism and fragmented politically west of the *Khanate, although there might be Buddhists in eastern Europe (another thing I'm thinking about)

That would certainly work. A few possible additions:

- South Asia as a mix of Persian, Turkic, and local dynasties.
- If there are Asian colonies in the Americas, maybe it was the Malay peoples who came to dominate Southeast Asia instead of Hindus from India doing it?
- Maybe as part of the old steppe empire, a conquest dynasty in (northern?) China.
 
That would certainly work. A few possible additions:

- Maybe as part of the old steppe empire, a conquest dynasty in (northern?) China.

having an existing great power competitor in its own back yard certainly would be a force for keeping China more militarily competitive. Currently I am unsure whether to make the colonies in north America Chinese, Japanese, Korean (mighty Korea is almost a cliche itself by now, isn't it?) or, given your suggestion, steppe invaders north China. The original Lion's Blood had a Chinese colony on the north American west coast, but I suspect it was more there to signal "alternate history" than the product of much thought.

- If there are Asian colonies in the Americas, maybe it was the Malay peoples who came to dominate Southeast Asia instead of Hindus from India doing it?

Don't quite follow.
 
having an existing great power competitor in its own back yard certainly would be a force for keeping China more militarily competitive. Currently I am unsure whether to make the colonies in north America Chinese, Japanese, Korean (mighty Korea is almost a cliche itself by now, isn't it?) or, given your suggestion, steppe invaders north China. The original Lion's Blood had a Chinese colony on the north American west coast, but I suspect it was more there to signal "alternate history" than the product of much thought.
I have an idea, how about Laos colony? or maybe Cambodia colonies.
 
having an existing great power competitor in its own back yard certainly would be a force for keeping China more militarily competitive. Currently I am unsure whether to make the colonies in north America Chinese, Japanese, Korean (mighty Korea is almost a cliche itself by now, isn't it?) or, given your suggestion, steppe invaders north China. The original Lion's Blood had a Chinese colony on the north American west coast, but I suspect it was more there to signal "alternate history" than the product of much thought.

Well, as far as Northeast Asia is concerned, you really only have Japan, China and Korea to choose from. :p Or something like the Manchus or Mongols. But even Mongol America has been done a lot.

Don't quite follow.

Apologies, that portion was half-baked. I was proposing Malay domination of Southeast Asia and their eventual colonization of the Americas.
 
Here's a quick snippet of a map I've been working on. The premise is that France and the HRE switch places, and I'm trying to build a world around that. The map shows the situation around roughly 1000-1100. Suggestions are welcome, since besides France/Germany/England I'm pretty stuck on what realms could be around.

Stylistically,I'm more than happy about how it's turning out. I would like to expand the heraldry a bit more but unforeseen circumstances have made me put those plans on hold for the moment.

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Maybe the Western Slavs gain a larger foothold in Eastern Germany.
 
This is my first map ever, its based off a ck2-Eu4 conversion game I've been playing for a year and now I'm just waiting for the EU4-Vic2 converter to be updated.
Work in Progress obviously and any thoughts about it are welcomed.
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Hi, welcome to the mapping community. Just some advice:

- borders are only meant to be one pixel wide. This does make mapping somewhat fiddly, but it's worth the effort.
- Try to use a better program like paint.net, because layers are very useful for mapping borders.
- Attempt to avoid major edits to the basemap unless you are adding a new landmass.
- I'd use a colour scheme such as Toast3r, SUCK, or the NCS for better colours.
 
Map of the Greater South African Federation, in 1939, during WW2. The Dark Orange is the 'South Africa Proper' states with medium autonomy, the orange is Autonomous states, with high autonomy, and the pale orange is the mandates, with very high autonomy. (Based on a mp hoi4 game I'm doing.)
 

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Here's my interpretation of the world of The Grasshopper Lies Heavy, the book-within-a-book from The Man in the High Castle.

It's my favorite thing about the novel because it rally shows just how culturally and historically different and disconnected the Axis victory world is from our own. For anyone who doesn't know, the novel, written by the titular man in the high castle, Hawthorne Abendsen, is about a world where the allies won World War II...only told from the perspective of people who've lived and grown up fed the fascist and racist propaganda the Axis live by.

In this timeline, Roosevelt isn't assassinated by Joe Zangara (who killed him in the MITHC universe) in 1933 and goes on to serve two terms as president. The New Deal pulls America out of the Great Depression, America re-arms, and implements anti-nazi policies while helping supply Britain and the Soviets. These are continued by his successor Rexford Tugwell, who sees America through World War II. Not only does this help splinter German-Japanese relations, he also pulls the U.S. fleet out of Pearl Harbor before the inevitable bombing attack. With its battleships intact, the U.S. manages to prevent Japan from taking the Philippines and Australia. Eventually, the islands themselves are invaded and occupied.

Meanwhile, in Europe, the Germans fail to take Malta and so Churchill remains in power. British forces go on to defeat Rommel's in North Africa and later move up through Turkey and the Caucasus to link up with the Russian army in Stalingrad. The deciding factor, however, is Italy's decision to switch sides, which opens up the "soft underbelly of Europe." Thanks to this, Berlin eventually falls to the British. With that, World War II ends. Hitler is captured, tried, and hanged in Munich. His final words are "'Deutsche, hier steh' Ich."

After the war, the world becomes divided between American and British hegemony. Russia (seen by the people of the MITHC world as backward land of inferior peasant slavs and thus had no chance of becoming a world power) is divided between both sides (just as America is in the novel proper). Europe falls under a British-led Union, where all use the same currency, language, and flag. Africa, the Middle East, India, and Burma remain firmly in the hands of the British Empire. America sends food, education, and new technology to the people of Asia, such as one-dollar television kits. Chiang Kai-shek leads Nationalist China, who industrializes far quicker. While Japan and China are not officially occupied by the U.S., the two are undoubtedly part of the American bloc. America even goes so far to abolish all racist and segregationist policies by 1950, reaching a new level of prosperity never seen before.

Things, unfortunately, go down the drain after about ten years. In Singapore and the Malay States, Churchill (who still remains in power) begins to suspect the U.S. is undermining their rule by appealing to the Chinese populations in the regions. While America has reversed its racial policies, Britain's stance on white supremacy has only intensified: not only are the darker races excluded from many public facilities, but they begin opening up concentration camps to deal with the Chinese in South Asia. Churchill gradually becomes more and more autocratic and ruthless as he ages.

Afterward, details get fuzzier. As this is a novel from an Axis-dominated world, America is seen as economically strong but lacking in spirituality, due to being a "racially bastardized" plutocracy. Britain is as well, but with their increasing emphasis on Anglo-Saxon purity, they seem destined to win this version of the Cold War.

Naturally, all of this purely implausible, but it's really the core of The Man in the High Castle. How much ideology can change the way people look at history.
 
Can someone do a Nepal wank?

Maybe Nepal owning land from West of Bhutan to East of Kashmir......
All you should need. Anyways, someone wanking Nepal would need to focus just in that region or the butterflies (or lack) would make the rest of the map look tacky. Simply prevented the treaty shown on this top map from taking away land, though it is just a shame likely the whole place is then subsumed into India. India was rather jingoistic in invading their neighbors after independence.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Nepal
 
All you should need. Anyways, someone wanking Nepal would need to focus just in that region or the butterflies (or lack) would make the rest of the map look tacky. Simply prevented the treaty shown on this top map from taking away land, though it is just a shame likely the whole place is then subsumed into India. India was rather jingoistic in invading their neighbors after independence.

I am quite familiar with the concept of Greater Nepal. In fact, I'm from Nepal too. Could you tell me if there's a forum to request wank timelines?
 
(seriously how do you make oceans look good)

Short of adding a topographical layer showing sea levels, there are many ways to add depth to sea regions.

One way would be to add the names of the local oceans, coves, inlets or whatever. Another approach would be to add a stroke effect to the sea layer, either solid or in a pattern of a suitable colour. Then there's adding longitude/latitude lines. In the same vein, the frame of the map is a good way to complement the sea layer. Try to experiment with different styles :)
 
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