The POD is a bigger Lutheran Templar movement. It’s also why while German Templars are dominating, there’s also Nordic, American and Ethiopian Templars.
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The POD is a bigger Lutheran Templar movement. It’s also why while German Templars are dominating, there’s also Nordic, American and Ethiopian Templars.
I'm curious. Are the borders arbitrary or do they follow the rivers and mountains?
I understand their fertility idols are almost as intricate as their rolling boulder traps.
Most of the borders either follow major ranges or rivers, with some more or less corresponding to drainage basin, while some of them are totally arbitrary.
Here is my submission to the Our Fair Country DBWI Contest:
POD: New York doesn't cede Fort Franklin to Ohio in 1799
Franklin is a city in the U.S. state of New York, and the county seat of Saguin County. The city proper has a population of 254,382, making it the second largest in New York, Saguin County is home to 449,386 people, making it the 6th most populated in the state. The county is an exclave as it is located more than 60 miles away from upstate new york and the state of Ohio and Pennsylvania are between it and New York
Franklin was established as a New Yorker outpost in the ohio country in 1791, and grew in importance during the Ohio Country war when the Fort would be the center of New York's presence in the disputed region and the only part of it that the state held total control over.
After Virginia rescinded the potomac resolutions, New York was left with a settlement in the country it had agreed to sell to the federal government, however many opposed it as the state has spent a considerable ammount fortifying the site and settling the swamps surrounding it, many also thought it would give new york an edge in controlling the economy of the future state of Ohio as well as put it in a better position in the border dispute with pennsylvania over the Lake Erie coast.
New York sent several hundred settlers over the next few years and New York organized it as a county in late 1798, this started a crisis as NY had previously agreed to give up its claim, New York initially claimed all the land between the Sandusky River and Pennsylvania's border, including the entire Saguin River Basin, this proposal was opposed by virginia and the congress, after much negotation both parties agreed to give New York a territory of less than 700 square miles, much less than the initially claimed 6,000 square miles, New York also had to give reparation to the federal government ammounting to six thousands pound, more than half of the price it sold the entire ohio county to the government.
New York quickly settled the exclave for fear of having it taken over, inviting thousands of families, but the state realized the potential of the city lay in the building of canal between Lake Erie and the Ohio River, In 1816, New York proposed Ohio to conjointly build a canal withotu national help, however the cost of the endeavour, the enmity between the two states over Franklin and the fear that the canal may overwhelmingly profit New York led to Ohio's refusal, Virginia and Pennsylvania, both lacking a port on Lake Erie (Waterford wouldn't be built for another 5 years) made a counter offer of a canal that would stay in Ohio, with its outlet in the Sandusky river, the state accepted and the Ohio and Erie Canal would be built between 1818 and 1823.
This would be a blow the city would never really recover from, as the city of Ogontz in Ohio siphoned most of the trade coming from the lakes, nevertheless its unique location brought some business opportunities, New York also invested significiantly in the city in hope of making it into an example of the State in the great lake region, the city benefited from Ogontz's boom, especially during and after the Civil war , the railway linking the latter city to Pittsburgh would cross Franklin, it would also become renowned as a touristic destination, the main one on the shores of lake erie, attracting summer tourists from not only Ohio and Pennsylvania but also Michigan, Ontario and the rest of New York. Like many places in the midwest it welcomed german migrants during the 19th century, although the county was quickly filled and the german influence is a bit less common than in most of Ohio.
Many resident of Detroit or Ogontz have been moving to Franklin following the stagnation of the two industrial cities over the past couple decades, many new yorkers also come to Franklin Seasonally, which accented gentrification, especially along the shore east and west of the city center, immigration from the city of New York also made this city more ethnically diverse than the surrounding north ohio. It also tend to vote more to the left than most of conservative Upstate New York, although Social Labor has consistently lower results than in other places in Northern Ohio.
Most Franklinite are proud to be New Yorkers, and several attempts, including two referendum in 1905 and 1983, to merge it with Ohio have met strong opposition, there exists a small party advocating for Statehood of Saguin County, but it has never gathered more than 7% of votes at local elections
POD: New York doesn't cede Fort Franklin to Ohio in 1799
Franklin is a city in the U.S. state of New York, and the county seat of Saguin County. The city proper has a population of 254,382, making it the second largest in New York, Saguin County is home to 449,386 people, making it the 6th most populated in the state. The county is an exclave as it is located more than 60 miles away from upstate new york and the state of Ohio and Pennsylvania are between it and New York
Franklin was established as a New Yorker outpost in the ohio country in 1791, and grew in importance during the Ohio Country war when the Fort would be the center of New York's presence in the disputed region and the only part of it that the state held total control over.
After Virginia rescinded the potomac resolutions, New York was left with a settlement in the country it had agreed to sell to the federal government, however many opposed it as the state has spent a considerable ammount fortifying the site and settling the swamps surrounding it, many also thought it would give new york an edge in controlling the economy of the future state of Ohio as well as put it in a better position in the border dispute with pennsylvania over the Lake Erie coast.
New York sent several hundred settlers over the next few years and New York organized it as a county in late 1798, this started a crisis as NY had previously agreed to give up its claim, New York initially claimed all the land between the Sandusky River and Pennsylvania's border, including the entire Saguin River Basin, this proposal was opposed by virginia and the congress, after much negotation both parties agreed to give New York a territory of less than 700 square miles, much less than the initially claimed 6,000 square miles, New York also had to give reparation to the federal government ammounting to six thousands pound, more than half of the price it sold the entire ohio county to the government.
New York quickly settled the exclave for fear of having it taken over, inviting thousands of families, but the state realized the potential of the city lay in the building of canal between Lake Erie and the Ohio River, In 1816, New York proposed Ohio to conjointly build a canal withotu national help, however the cost of the endeavour, the enmity between the two states over Franklin and the fear that the canal may overwhelmingly profit New York led to Ohio's refusal, Virginia and Pennsylvania, both lacking a port on Lake Erie (Waterford wouldn't be built for another 5 years) made a counter offer of a canal that would stay in Ohio, with its outlet in the Sandusky river, the state accepted and the Ohio and Erie Canal would be built between 1818 and 1823.
This would be a blow the city would never really recover from, as the city of Ogontz in Ohio siphoned most of the trade coming from the lakes, nevertheless its unique location brought some business opportunities, New York also invested significiantly in the city in hope of making it into an example of the State in the great lake region, the city benefited from Ogontz's boom, especially during and after the Civil war , the railway linking the latter city to Pittsburgh would cross Franklin, it would also become renowned as a touristic destination, the main one on the shores of lake erie, attracting summer tourists from not only Ohio and Pennsylvania but also Michigan, Ontario and the rest of New York. Like many places in the midwest it welcomed german migrants during the 19th century, although the county was quickly filled and the german influence is a bit less common than in most of Ohio.
Many resident of Detroit or Ogontz have been moving to Franklin following the stagnation of the two industrial cities over the past couple decades, many new yorkers also come to Franklin Seasonally, which accented gentrification, especially along the shore east and west of the city center, immigration from the city of New York also made this city more ethnically diverse than the surrounding north ohio. It also tend to vote more to the left than most of conservative Upstate New York, although Social Labor has consistently lower results than in other places in Northern Ohio.
Most Franklinite are proud to be New Yorkers, and several attempts, including two referendum in 1905 and 1983, to merge it with Ohio have met strong opposition, there exists a small party advocating for Statehood of Saguin County, but it has never gathered more than 7% of votes at local elections
Is it okay if you can DM the map? I'm still on my self exile from Deviantart and I don't wish to go there.
The settlement of Dutch America (or modern day New Rotterdam) was kickstarted by the WIC (Dutch West Indies Company) in 1602 on charter by the Dutch government with the mission of exploring North America's Rivers and Bays for a direct passage through to the India. Along the way, Dutch explorers were charged to map and claim any uncharted areas, which led to more significant expeditions, and with time, the establishment of the New Rotterdam colony.
With Spain having been driving out of South Netherlands by a Netherlands-French coalition, the French and Dutch established close relations, thus averting the Franco-Dutch war and giving the Dutch a fighting chance at a strong colony. The Netherlands were able to expel the German invasion with French support, and averted the British declaring war on them due to their strong alliance with France. With little going on in their corner of the world, they started to establish their colonial empire. It wasn’t until 1921 when the Dutch turned New Rotterdam into a true settler colony. The population underwent slow growth, and primarily consisted of Wallonians and their slaves fleeing religious persecution. By 1750 the population was starting to pick up, with a trickle of Dutch, French, and even German immigrants flowing in for a chance at a new life. This peaceful growth couldn’t go on forever, however. When the U.S declared independence from Britain, they were dragged right into the battle. Being forced to serve as a jumping point for British armies lest they be annexed. With little support from the homeland (for fear of British anger) and British aggression, the Rotterdammers grew increasingly frustrated and independently-minded. The governor Hubert Bakker grew increasingly independently minded, and attempted (but failed) to secure autonomy during a visit to Amsterdam. By 1820 New Rotterdam was in full scale rebellion, which ultimately failed and ended with the treaty of Hudson city. New Rotterdam was granted Autonomy in exchange for tribute to the Dutch homeland.
The Americans had long been aggressive, but by the 1860s and 70s war looked nigh. New Rotterdam grew closer to Britain (much to Dutch displeasure), leaving a foul taste in their citizens mouths. After multiple years of aggressive relations, America declared war on New Rotterdam and the British dominion of Champlain. The war was short lived, but brutal on the Champlainese front, and concluded with the treaty of Goldtown. No territorial exchanges were made, even with America occupying much of Champlain. New Rotterdam was practically snug as a bug with the British empire from then on.
The early 20th century was defined by the great war. Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Bulgaria were defeated after a brutal, six year war. The Netherlands were a major contributor to the axis’s downfall, but were left weak and overstretched. New Rotterdam’s governor Hubert Bakker II declared independence as The Constitutional Duchy of New Rotterdam, taking cues from America and Britain, and christened himself “Duke Hubert II”. The Netherlands let them go without a fight, unwilling to fight more wars. The two nations remained in close political association despite the split, and the Netherlands gave New Rotterdam the territory of Dutch Antilles in a show of good faith (and because they couldn’t effectively control it).
Slowly New Rotterdam grew as a technological hub, and nowadays Hudson City is one of the most prestigious places to live. With a high HDI and GDP of over US 1.2 trillion, they are doing quite well. Hudson City is a global hub of business and commerce, as a center of banking and finance, biotech, finance, transportation, green energy, tourism, news media, traditional media, advertising, legal services, manufacturing, insurance, and space travel. Hudson City also functions as a neutral world stock-exchange (alongside Hong Kong, who they fiercely compete with) and a global hub of diplomacy.
With Spain having been driving out of South Netherlands by a Netherlands-French coalition, the French and Dutch established close relations, thus averting the Franco-Dutch war and giving the Dutch a fighting chance at a strong colony. The Netherlands were able to expel the German invasion with French support, and averted the British declaring war on them due to their strong alliance with France. With little going on in their corner of the world, they started to establish their colonial empire. It wasn’t until 1921 when the Dutch turned New Rotterdam into a true settler colony. The population underwent slow growth, and primarily consisted of Wallonians and their slaves fleeing religious persecution. By 1750 the population was starting to pick up, with a trickle of Dutch, French, and even German immigrants flowing in for a chance at a new life. This peaceful growth couldn’t go on forever, however. When the U.S declared independence from Britain, they were dragged right into the battle. Being forced to serve as a jumping point for British armies lest they be annexed. With little support from the homeland (for fear of British anger) and British aggression, the Rotterdammers grew increasingly frustrated and independently-minded. The governor Hubert Bakker grew increasingly independently minded, and attempted (but failed) to secure autonomy during a visit to Amsterdam. By 1820 New Rotterdam was in full scale rebellion, which ultimately failed and ended with the treaty of Hudson city. New Rotterdam was granted Autonomy in exchange for tribute to the Dutch homeland.
The Americans had long been aggressive, but by the 1860s and 70s war looked nigh. New Rotterdam grew closer to Britain (much to Dutch displeasure), leaving a foul taste in their citizens mouths. After multiple years of aggressive relations, America declared war on New Rotterdam and the British dominion of Champlain. The war was short lived, but brutal on the Champlainese front, and concluded with the treaty of Goldtown. No territorial exchanges were made, even with America occupying much of Champlain. New Rotterdam was practically snug as a bug with the British empire from then on.
The early 20th century was defined by the great war. Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Bulgaria were defeated after a brutal, six year war. The Netherlands were a major contributor to the axis’s downfall, but were left weak and overstretched. New Rotterdam’s governor Hubert Bakker II declared independence as The Constitutional Duchy of New Rotterdam, taking cues from America and Britain, and christened himself “Duke Hubert II”. The Netherlands let them go without a fight, unwilling to fight more wars. The two nations remained in close political association despite the split, and the Netherlands gave New Rotterdam the territory of Dutch Antilles in a show of good faith (and because they couldn’t effectively control it).
Slowly New Rotterdam grew as a technological hub, and nowadays Hudson City is one of the most prestigious places to live. With a high HDI and GDP of over US 1.2 trillion, they are doing quite well. Hudson City is a global hub of business and commerce, as a center of banking and finance, biotech, finance, transportation, green energy, tourism, news media, traditional media, advertising, legal services, manufacturing, insurance, and space travel. Hudson City also functions as a neutral world stock-exchange (alongside Hong Kong, who they fiercely compete with) and a global hub of diplomacy.
Amazing! You don't see enough of these regional maps on this site!Here is my submission to the Our Fair Country DBWI Contest:
POD: New York doesn't cede Fort Franklin to Ohio in 1799
Franklin is a city in the U.S. state of New York, and the county seat of Saguin County. The city proper has a population of 254,382, making it the second largest in New York, Saguin County is home to 449,386 people, making it the 6th most populated in the state. The county is an exclave as it is located more than 60 miles away from upstate new york and the state of Ohio and Pennsylvania are between it and New York
Franklin was established as a New Yorker outpost in the ohio country in 1791, and grew in importance during the Ohio Country war when the Fort would be the center of New York's presence in the disputed region and the only part of it that the state held total control over.
After Virginia rescinded the potomac resolutions, New York was left with a settlement in the country it had agreed to sell to the federal government, however many opposed it as the state has spent a considerable ammount fortifying the site and settling the swamps surrounding it, many also thought it would give new york an edge in controlling the economy of the future state of Ohio as well as put it in a better position in the border dispute with pennsylvania over the Lake Erie coast.
New York sent several hundred settlers over the next few years and New York organized it as a county in late 1798, this started a crisis as NY had previously agreed to give up its claim, New York initially claimed all the land between the Sandusky River and Pennsylvania's border, including the entire Saguin River Basin, this proposal was opposed by virginia and the congress, after much negotation both parties agreed to give New York a territory of less than 700 square miles, much less than the initially claimed 6,000 square miles, New York also had to give reparation to the federal government ammounting to six thousands pound, more than half of the price it sold the entire ohio county to the government.
New York quickly settled the exclave for fear of having it taken over, inviting thousands of families, but the state realized the potential of the city lay in the building of canal between Lake Erie and the Ohio River, In 1816, New York proposed Ohio to conjointly build a canal withotu national help, however the cost of the endeavour, the enmity between the two states over Franklin and the fear that the canal may overwhelmingly profit New York led to Ohio's refusal, Virginia and Pennsylvania, both lacking a port on Lake Erie (Waterford wouldn't be built for another 5 years) made a counter offer of a canal that would stay in Ohio, with its outlet in the Sandusky river, the state accepted and the Ohio and Erie Canal would be built between 1818 and 1823.
This would be a blow the city would never really recover from, as the city of Ogontz in Ohio siphoned most of the trade coming from the lakes, nevertheless its unique location brought some business opportunities, New York also invested significiantly in the city in hope of making it into an example of the State in the great lake region, the city benefited from Ogontz's boom, especially during and after the Civil war , the railway linking the latter city to Pittsburgh would cross Franklin, it would also become renowned as a touristic destination, the main one on the shores of lake erie, attracting summer tourists from not only Ohio and Pennsylvania but also Michigan, Ontario and the rest of New York. Like many places in the midwest it welcomed german migrants during the 19th century, although the county was quickly filled and the german influence is a bit less common than in most of Ohio.
Many resident of Detroit or Ogontz have been moving to Franklin following the stagnation of the two industrial cities over the past couple decades, many new yorkers also come to Franklin Seasonally, which accented gentrification, especially along the shore east and west of the city center, immigration from the city of New York also made this city more ethnically diverse than the surrounding north ohio. It also tend to vote more to the left than most of conservative Upstate New York, although Social Labor has consistently lower results than in other places in Northern Ohio.
Most Franklinite are proud to be New Yorkers, and several attempts, including two referendum in 1905 and 1983, to merge it with Ohio have met strong opposition, there exists a small party advocating for Statehood of Saguin County, but it has never gathered more than 7% of votes at local elections
I think French and Valencian colours are too close to each other. When I first saw the Europe map I thought it was a French and Aragonese personal union. Makes it hard to distinguish. All in all a great map despite this nitpick.
Mhm, alt. Versailles! Nice eastern borders of Poland! And Bulgaria as part of Yugoslavia (kingdom of Serbs, Croats, Slovenes and Bulgarians?
) is cool.But former Austria-Hungary is weird, especially independent Slovakia (Slovakia with OTL borders!) with added Ruthenia, especially Ruthenia. It should either stay as part of rump A-H, go to Poland (again, especially Ruthenia) or form OTL Czechoslovakia.
And southern Slovak borders seems unlikely to me, there is or was predominantly hungarian settlement. OTL borders are consequence of Bela Kuns revolution and czechoslovak-hugarian war (which did not happen here, I think?)
...Seriously, nice. The sheer diversity of the Land of the Setting Sun is amazing. But I do have a few questions.
- Correct me if I'm wrong, but is that Tlaxcala in Rome?
- Is there a Norwegian colony in Ireland?
- What are those independent states in Ireland?
- Does the Marian Confederation (or Denmark and Norway, for that matter) have any colonies in the *Americas?
April 13, 2019
Iceland finds itself in a brand new world.
The Present
There are three nations on Midgard:
Ísland (Iceland) - An expansive Empire that covers Iceland, Avalon, Germania, Scandinavia, France, and Vinland. The people in nation are mostly adherents to Ásatrúarfélagið. During the expansion outward, small groups left to form their own nations. Including,
Heilagur Skandinavísk ríki (Holy Scandinavian State) - Current home of the Kaþólska kirkjan (Catholic Church) and the Þjóðkirkjan (Church of Iceland). They've taken some land around where Rome used to be to set up a base of operations for the rebuilding of Christian Europe. They also claim the entire holy land. Speaking of the Holy Land.
Konungsríki Kaldea (Kingdom of the Chaldeans) - Believers in Zuism founding what would become Chaldea. They look to recreate a Mesopotamian Kingdom where believers in Zuism can find a place in the world to call home. The Kingdom itself is an elective monarchy.
Iceland finds itself in a brand new world.
The Present
There are three nations on Midgard:
Ísland (Iceland) - An expansive Empire that covers Iceland, Avalon, Germania, Scandinavia, France, and Vinland. The people in nation are mostly adherents to Ásatrúarfélagið. During the expansion outward, small groups left to form their own nations. Including,
Heilagur Skandinavísk ríki (Holy Scandinavian State) - Current home of the Kaþólska kirkjan (Catholic Church) and the Þjóðkirkjan (Church of Iceland). They've taken some land around where Rome used to be to set up a base of operations for the rebuilding of Christian Europe. They also claim the entire holy land. Speaking of the Holy Land.
Konungsríki Kaldea (Kingdom of the Chaldeans) - Believers in Zuism founding what would become Chaldea. They look to recreate a Mesopotamian Kingdom where believers in Zuism can find a place in the world to call home. The Kingdom itself is an elective monarchy.
1- Nop, just the colours for the Roman Republic and Tlaxcala being too similar (as in France and Valencia, I don't have any problem with those, but it seems others find it too similar, oh well, might change that).
2- No, those under Germany only have colonies in *North America, but I included them too not to waste space.
3-Essentially Irish clans that never managed to unify nor get fully conquered by either England or Scotland.
4-The islands of *Saint Thomas and *Saint Berthelemy
Funny how I can't see the attachment in normal view, but I can when I'm editing this post.
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