Map Thread XVIII
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I considered having a united North Virginia, but I decided against it. In universe I think that it's plausible that, as part of the peace talks, the two parties decided that none of tracts of land which were kept by the US should call itself Virginia to avoid irredentism.
The complexity of the Banat definitely led to me deciding to not bother with it, yes.
Montenegro being a Russian ally/client state is inspired by OTL events, and just a bit tongue-in-cheek, because IOTL Montenegro symbolically declared war against Japan during the Russo-Japanese War (and despite neighboring Serbia at the time being in a pro-Austrian phase). That, combined with the Montegrin desire for a protector against Serbian/Habsburg/Ottoman attacks just makes a lot of sense to me.
Russian Poland has retained a bit more of its autonomy ITTL, since the January Uprising which caused it to lose most of its autonomy happened after the 1862 POD. However Poland is far from being super autonomous, and Russification policies are quite controversial (similar to how Finland, which also faced that IOTL despite being way more peaceful).
Puerto Rico has, like the Philippines (excluding Mindanao), self-government but is still part of the Spanish Empire. They're pretty similar to dominions, and was granted as a response to Cuban independence in the late 1890s.
I do know that ferry crossing the Congo River near OTL's Brazzaville and Kinshasa are pretty easy to manage, so the interior of French Central Africa isn't isolated from the coastal regions... And in theory there's also still the option of using routes through Portuguese Angola in case the ferry isn't a good option. But I must admit, I'm not super happy with the Congo, and I had originally envisioned a North German Congo Free State equivalent, but ultimately decided against it.
The Senussi are indeed the dominant force in Fezzan, yes, and to this day it's the part of the Ottoman Empire that causes the most troubles (followed by Nejd).
The Italian East Indies are inspired by an obscure Italian expedition to New Guinea and the Moluccas in 1870. Sadly I can't find any English language sources for this, but the Italian Wikipedia article on Italian colonialism lists a few books...
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Regarding the Dominican Republic as a possible target for Confederate expansion... I don't see them holding the place long-term because of the reasons you described, and the lackluster Confederate navy at the time, and once the 1870s have begun, I think the window of opportunity for a foreign power to annex the place closes.
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Not to gatekeep, and I'm usually pretty laissez-faire about what gets posted in the main map thread, but as this is basically the definition of a shitpost it probably belongs in the corresponding shitpost thread.
I'm sorry about that. Both were test maps. I made them to see how finished maps of mine might look. I hope this doesn't bother you.
Wow. That's a really awesome map. I especially like the way you showed exploration/settlements outside of the core territories of countries. The "empire mode" is a really innovative way of showing population dispersion that looks nice too.
Just how the UK managed to survive, I know that the british had colonies in the Caribbean but how, just how, it managed to continue to be a monarchy, did Queen Victoria and her children be ISOTed or a member of the Royal Family was present in the area at the time?
Stalin was right, war between imperialists led just to their weakening. German panzers were able to breakthrough allied lines, but it takes months and price was high. Hitler and his generals blame each other for heavy loses, before führer purged his officers.
Meanwhile, Mussolini refused to participate in bloodshed in France and attack neutral Greece, instead. And another bloody stalemate begin.
Then, militaristic Japan takes it chance and attack French and Netherland colonies and soon were driven into war with USA and Britain.
While rest of world descent into hell of war, vozhd wait... And while last remnants of French army, crippled by heavy fighting as well as strikes, left continental Europe, red army began to move...
Firstly, soviet forces swept through Moldavia, to Ploesti, and cut Germany from oil. Then begin great battle for north European plains, hard and bloody, but German shortage of resources and numerical superiority of Soviet forces soon decided. Soviet tanks crossed Vistula, Oder, Elbe and Rhine and finally connect with french rebels. Definitive fall of national socialist regime soon follow, but peace did not return to Europe.
First, there was fascist Italy, destabilised due to unsucsesfull war in Balkan. Oponents of Mussolini rule and deserters fled into mountainous regions and led partisan war against fading regime. For battle hardened bolshevik soldiers wasn´t too hard to cross Alps and deliver final blow to Mussolini dreams.
At the same time, forces of militarist Japan were pushed back by might of United States, but it was slow motion, due to fanaticism of emperors soldiers. Thus Americans were quite grateful when Soviet union turn east, attacking japanese satellites.Even with this help, there were log and brutal fighting, especially invasion on Japanese isles. To this day, Japan stay restless and under US army occupation...
Today, world is split into three main blocs. First is socialist world order under guidance of Moscow. Its sphere includes most of east-central and southeastern Europe, in the south reaches shores of Aegean sea and Persian gulf, dream from times of tsars had finally come true.
On the west, there is puppet Germany and then European community, league of socialist states under domination of France. French government split after war, when representants of local councils and partisan groups, backed by their soviet friend, refuse to submit to legitimate government, returning from exile.
In Asia, there are three others left leaning countries. First is India, who won its independence after war, by revolution, aided by USSR and Afghanistan and remain closely allied to Moscow. On the other hand, Israel, while socialist and maintaining cordial relations to Soviet Russia, is democratic and independent.
(I will finish writeup later, however think its obvious what happen...)
Meanwhile, Mussolini refused to participate in bloodshed in France and attack neutral Greece, instead. And another bloody stalemate begin.
Then, militaristic Japan takes it chance and attack French and Netherland colonies and soon were driven into war with USA and Britain.
While rest of world descent into hell of war, vozhd wait... And while last remnants of French army, crippled by heavy fighting as well as strikes, left continental Europe, red army began to move...
Firstly, soviet forces swept through Moldavia, to Ploesti, and cut Germany from oil. Then begin great battle for north European plains, hard and bloody, but German shortage of resources and numerical superiority of Soviet forces soon decided. Soviet tanks crossed Vistula, Oder, Elbe and Rhine and finally connect with french rebels. Definitive fall of national socialist regime soon follow, but peace did not return to Europe.
First, there was fascist Italy, destabilised due to unsucsesfull war in Balkan. Oponents of Mussolini rule and deserters fled into mountainous regions and led partisan war against fading regime. For battle hardened bolshevik soldiers wasn´t too hard to cross Alps and deliver final blow to Mussolini dreams.
At the same time, forces of militarist Japan were pushed back by might of United States, but it was slow motion, due to fanaticism of emperors soldiers. Thus Americans were quite grateful when Soviet union turn east, attacking japanese satellites.Even with this help, there were log and brutal fighting, especially invasion on Japanese isles. To this day, Japan stay restless and under US army occupation...
Today, world is split into three main blocs. First is socialist world order under guidance of Moscow. Its sphere includes most of east-central and southeastern Europe, in the south reaches shores of Aegean sea and Persian gulf, dream from times of tsars had finally come true.
On the west, there is puppet Germany and then European community, league of socialist states under domination of France. French government split after war, when representants of local councils and partisan groups, backed by their soviet friend, refuse to submit to legitimate government, returning from exile.
In Asia, there are three others left leaning countries. First is India, who won its independence after war, by revolution, aided by USSR and Afghanistan and remain closely allied to Moscow. On the other hand, Israel, while socialist and maintaining cordial relations to Soviet Russia, is democratic and independent.
(I will finish writeup later, however think its obvious what happen...)
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An map that took a week to plan, a day to draw by pencil and pen in a paper and another day to basically scan it, shrink the size until the lines became sole pixels and edit it to a editable appearance, besides making an extra with the rough lines of vegetation of the are (using @tungsterismapping Naturekey as the color scheme), and now I post it here. There is not a story behind it (although I did start it as an map to an abandoned ASOIAF fancfiction that I had in mind), and while I may make something using it, I'm not sure, so, if anyone wants to use it, do it, just give me the credit
The Blank Map
The Blank Map with the addition of Vegetation
The Blank Map
The Blank Map with the addition of Vegetation
Just posting some WIP maps that I made for a parliamentary world. An earth where, much to the surprise of its citizens (and leaders), ends up united. I may or may not finish this.
This is just a terrifying scenario! How do the rest of Germany view the Germans in the East? How large is the population of Germany and what percentage do the Wehrbauere compromise of the total German population?
I imagine general indifference, since they don't really interact much with the rest of the German populace. That being said, nearly all Wehrbauern who abandon their farms try to make a living in the cities are going to fail (not the least because they will probably be deported back east for "vagrancy" or some such charge) , so I assume they'd be a disproportionate amount of homeless - so there's probably some amount of negative interaction. In the Siedlungsmarks themselves, I imagine the dynamic is similar to how non-Amish interact with the Amish in Amish Country.
I figured "Germany proper" would be around 130 million people, so the Wehrbauern are still only about 7% of the total German population (but are rapidly growing).
Three post-apocalyptic maps, one hot off the presses!
It is said that Humanity have suffered four Blights: One of Nature, that allowed our Rise; One of Plague, Created from lack of knowledge; One of War, fought for glory and collective greed; And one of Desire, of selfishness and ignorance. It is after the fourth where we are now.
This is the Land of Lords, Saynts, and Men, one of the first places to become civilized again after the Fourth Blight. It is sadly cut off from the world, it is unknown to the Land of Lords, Saynts and Men (Also known as the Nation of Taurs) if there are any more civilized regions that have risen again. To their west is vast, endless wastes. It is confidently believed that no one lives in them, but further beyond, it is unknown. To their east is a group of Barbarians, known as the Viskonen. Luckily, it seems these Barbarians will leave the Taurs alone, as it seems they have other things to deal with. To the North is emptiness, endless woods that eventually turn into ice. Everyone is confident no one lives there or beyond. To the south is the only people outside of Taurs that are known to be, well, not savage murders. These are simple farmers known collectively as the Ioa, but they don't seem to have redeveloped a much more complex society, just being based on local collectives.
Taurs is set up in the ruins of a city built before the Fourth Blight (and some say even before the Third). This city seems to have been divided into 3 major boroughs, known as the Towers: The Towers of Saynts, the Towers of Men, and the Towers of Blumtun. No one is certain why it was divided into these three boroughs, but it was nonetheless. In the center of the Towers is a fortress, whose old name (and name taken after) is believed to be Seling. It is at Seling where the government and town has been set up, with 'farms' surrounding the town, mostly set up in the suburban area of the old city.
There is also another city that is part of the Nation of Taurs: The City of Lords, named after the Lake of Lords that it's founded on (nobody's quite sure where that name comes from) and has become a popular pilgrimage sight, as the Lake of Lords, the Woods of Lords, and the Road of Lords are all believed to be symbols of survival of the First Three Blights, with the City of Seling being the symbol of the survival of the Fourth Blight.
The City of Lords has also been busy constructing an exploration fleet, to go and search out any new, recivilized lands.
It is said that Humanity have suffered four Blights: One of Nature, that we have conquered; One of Plague, that we have defied; One of War, that we have won; and One of Desire, of Avarice. That, God has decided, we alone shall be saved from. Others have Avarice, we have Avrisa.
This is the Empire of Kwangu, the first empire to emerge after the Fourth Blight. Most of the rest of the world was highly affected by the Blight, but for one reason or another it passed over Kwangu, who, only a generation after the Blight united together to form the Empire of Kwangu. Legend states that a hundred Emperors have passed since the unification, but none are able to confirm or deny this.
While certainly the richest and most powerful in the area, Kwangu is not alone. On its borders are several smaller kingdoms, arising likely not long after the Kwangian Unification, each of which pay tribute to the Empire.
There are many languages in Kwangu, but one that stands out, one that sounds quite differently to other Kwangian languages is the language known as High Kwangian, the language of the aristocracy. According to legend, High Kwangian was originally a language developed across the seas and brought before them. The pure form of this language is supposedly called Vransian, but due to corruption by the Kwangians, it developed into High Kwangian instead.
This map, as presented by Emperor Muse VIII of Kwangu, is now on it's way back to the Nation of Taurs, to be presented as one of the many signs of reemerging civilization.
The land of Inglen was a great discovery. A Menish-speaking land. They may speak it odd, but Menish still. Inglen is a shattered land, broken into many counties and duchies. The most powerful being Luntin, the traditional capital, and Nu'Ul, the water Phoenix.
It is said that Humanity have suffered four Blights: One of Nature, that allowed our Rise; One of Plague, Created from lack of knowledge; One of War, fought for glory and collective greed; And one of Desire, of selfishness and ignorance. It is after the fourth where we are now.
This is the Land of Lords, Saynts, and Men, one of the first places to become civilized again after the Fourth Blight. It is sadly cut off from the world, it is unknown to the Land of Lords, Saynts and Men (Also known as the Nation of Taurs) if there are any more civilized regions that have risen again. To their west is vast, endless wastes. It is confidently believed that no one lives in them, but further beyond, it is unknown. To their east is a group of Barbarians, known as the Viskonen. Luckily, it seems these Barbarians will leave the Taurs alone, as it seems they have other things to deal with. To the North is emptiness, endless woods that eventually turn into ice. Everyone is confident no one lives there or beyond. To the south is the only people outside of Taurs that are known to be, well, not savage murders. These are simple farmers known collectively as the Ioa, but they don't seem to have redeveloped a much more complex society, just being based on local collectives.
Taurs is set up in the ruins of a city built before the Fourth Blight (and some say even before the Third). This city seems to have been divided into 3 major boroughs, known as the Towers: The Towers of Saynts, the Towers of Men, and the Towers of Blumtun. No one is certain why it was divided into these three boroughs, but it was nonetheless. In the center of the Towers is a fortress, whose old name (and name taken after) is believed to be Seling. It is at Seling where the government and town has been set up, with 'farms' surrounding the town, mostly set up in the suburban area of the old city.
There is also another city that is part of the Nation of Taurs: The City of Lords, named after the Lake of Lords that it's founded on (nobody's quite sure where that name comes from) and has become a popular pilgrimage sight, as the Lake of Lords, the Woods of Lords, and the Road of Lords are all believed to be symbols of survival of the First Three Blights, with the City of Seling being the symbol of the survival of the Fourth Blight.
The City of Lords has also been busy constructing an exploration fleet, to go and search out any new, recivilized lands.
It is said that Humanity have suffered four Blights: One of Nature, that we have conquered; One of Plague, that we have defied; One of War, that we have won; and One of Desire, of Avarice. That, God has decided, we alone shall be saved from. Others have Avarice, we have Avrisa.
This is the Empire of Kwangu, the first empire to emerge after the Fourth Blight. Most of the rest of the world was highly affected by the Blight, but for one reason or another it passed over Kwangu, who, only a generation after the Blight united together to form the Empire of Kwangu. Legend states that a hundred Emperors have passed since the unification, but none are able to confirm or deny this.
While certainly the richest and most powerful in the area, Kwangu is not alone. On its borders are several smaller kingdoms, arising likely not long after the Kwangian Unification, each of which pay tribute to the Empire.
There are many languages in Kwangu, but one that stands out, one that sounds quite differently to other Kwangian languages is the language known as High Kwangian, the language of the aristocracy. According to legend, High Kwangian was originally a language developed across the seas and brought before them. The pure form of this language is supposedly called Vransian, but due to corruption by the Kwangians, it developed into High Kwangian instead.
This map, as presented by Emperor Muse VIII of Kwangu, is now on it's way back to the Nation of Taurs, to be presented as one of the many signs of reemerging civilization.
The land of Inglen was a great discovery. A Menish-speaking land. They may speak it odd, but Menish still. Inglen is a shattered land, broken into many counties and duchies. The most powerful being Luntin, the traditional capital, and Nu'Ul, the water Phoenix.
whats the 4th blight supposed to represent?Three post-apocalyptic maps, one hot off the presses!
It is said that Humanity have suffered four Blights: One of Nature, that allowed our Rise; One of Plague, Created from lack of knowledge; One of War, fought for glory and collective greed; And one of Desire, of selfishness and ignorance. It is after the fourth where we are now.
This is the Land of Lords, Saynts, and Men, one of the first places to become civilized again after the Fourth Blight. It is sadly cut off from the world, it is unknown to the Land of Lords, Saynts and Men (Also known as the Nation of Taurs) if there are any more civilized regions that have risen again. To their west is vast, endless wastes. It is confidently believed that no one lives in them, but further beyond, it is unknown. To their east is a group of Barbarians, known as the Viskonen. Luckily, it seems these Barbarians will leave the Taurs alone, as it seems they have other things to deal with. To the North is emptiness, endless woods that eventually turn into ice. Everyone is confident no one lives there or beyond. To the south is the only people outside of Taurs that are known to be, well, not savage murders. These are simple farmers known collectively as the Ioa, but they don't seem to have redeveloped a much more complex society, just being based on local collectives.
Taurs is set up in the ruins of a city built before the Fourth Blight (and some say even before the Third). This city seems to have been divided into 3 major boroughs, known as the Towers: The Towers of Saynts, the Towers of Men, and the Towers of Blumtun. No one is certain why it was divided into these three boroughs, but it was nonetheless. In the center of the Towers is a fortress, whose old name (and name taken after) is believed to be Seling. It is at Seling where the government and town has been set up, with 'farms' surrounding the town, mostly set up in the suburban area of the old city.
There is also another city that is part of the Nation of Taurs: The City of Lords, named after the Lake of Lords that it's founded on (nobody's quite sure where that name comes from) and has become a popular pilgrimage sight, as the Lake of Lords, the Woods of Lords, and the Road of Lords are all believed to be symbols of survival of the First Three Blights, with the City of Seling being the symbol of the survival of the Fourth Blight.
The City of Lords has also been busy constructing an exploration fleet, to go and search out any new, recivilized lands.
It is said that Humanity have suffered four Blights: One of Nature, that we have conquered; One of Plague, that we have defied; One of War, that we have won; and One of Desire, of Avarice. That, God has decided, we alone shall be saved from. Others have Avarice, we have Avrisa.
This is the Empire of Kwangu, the first empire to emerge after the Fourth Blight. Most of the rest of the world was highly affected by the Blight, but for one reason or another it passed over Kwangu, who, only a generation after the Blight united together to form the Empire of Kwangu. Legend states that a hundred Emperors have passed since the unification, but none are able to confirm or deny this.
While certainly the richest and most powerful in the area, Kwangu is not alone. On its borders are several smaller kingdoms, arising likely not long after the Kwangian Unification, each of which pay tribute to the Empire.
There are many languages in Kwangu, but one that stands out, one that sounds quite differently to other Kwangian languages is the language known as High Kwangian, the language of the aristocracy. According to legend, High Kwangian was originally a language developed across the seas and brought before them. The pure form of this language is supposedly called Vransian, but due to corruption by the Kwangians, it developed into High Kwangian instead.
This map, as presented by Emperor Muse VIII of Kwangu, is now on it's way back to the Nation of Taurs, to be presented as one of the many signs of reemerging civilization.
The land of Inglen was a great discovery. A Menish-speaking land. They may speak it odd, but Menish still. Inglen is a shattered land, broken into many counties and duchies. The most powerful being Luntin, the traditional capital, and Nu'Ul, the water Phoenix.
I wouldn't be surprised if people considered them a separate race or something. Apparently Sudentlanders were teased or insulted due to their accents and Germans form the Baltic and South Tyrol had their property paid for by the Soviets and Italians, though the money never making it down to the hands of the expelled Germans. And then there was that Gauleiter who wanted to deport the entire populatoin of Alsace-Lorraine as being unpatriotic traitors to Germany. I know this map is for a MOTF contest, but might you ever consider showing a racial map of the areas annexed from France? Though I imagine it would all just be labeled as German by this point. Also, shame for the Balts that they didn't even manage to get shoved further east. Did they manage to maybe a quarter or half their people Germanized when demographics started rearing their ugly heads to Berlin? I imagine Courlanders might by seen as Germanizable enough.
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