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Thanks! The plan is to do the Caribbean, France/Iberia, and the British Isles next (in that order), but I do plan on eventually detailing South America; Brazil actually suffers much worse than most other nations since the majority of early infected end up there.

As for Artillery, keep in mind the Outbreak started in 1815, the best anyone has for Artillery is Cannons (maybe Grapeshot if they're lucky); the fact that only a headshot will kill the undead means that often Artillery fails to cut it. Though until in WWZ, each survivor holdout likely learns this lesson on their own due to the lack of efficient communication.
How's Australia doing ITTL? It could be a safe haven against the horde seeing as the plague can't go through deserts.
 
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And remember that Britannia, well, you rule the waves no more!
So keep your hands off Europe, she's 'Murican to the core.

Europe isn't American to the core. That's put them on the same level as Florida or Minnesota, which would insult the rather proud nations on the continent. Honestly, I agree.
 
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I'm only replying to this comment since it's the latest one in this thread, but I want everyone to be reminded that their petty nations owe everything about their existence to the glorious I M P E R I V M R O M A N V M
 
Very nice, Baconheimer! I like this a lot. A few comments:

While not by any means the paragon of tolerance, Portugal (and Spain, actually) have retained the racial-based caste system and while it is true that whites dominate the government and military, there are numerous powerful mixed-race merchants, sailors, landowners, and military officers.

Don't you mean have discarded the racial-based caste system?

only discretion has kept them independent this long.

And, I imagine, an unwillingness on the part of Madrid to take on yet further commitments.

There though, the success of the republicans success was astonishing.

Think you need to move some things around in the writeup, since this follows directly from something two paragraphs ago.

The old Chinese Empire has fallen to the Manchu Qing Dynasty which has been in decline for the better part of the last century.

I think you can just toss the bolded part: the fact that the Ming were replaced by the Qing as OTL is somewhat intuitively obvious from the Qing, well, existing, and said change is not a pre-requisite for Chinese relative decline. :)

I am a bit puzzled by Brabant: the Netherlands were inherited by the Habsburgs in the 1480s, and seem unlikely to have been lost by a victorious, Protestant-smashing Habsburg empire. Backstory?
 
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A Map of the Planet in a story that I am making. The World itself is kinda basically magic meets a modern world, but with no humans, instead Anthropomorphic Animals, because I'm a Furry. I found the map on this website, it was made by someone, I don't remember who, though. The world (Farrokh)'s not always at war though. Askaria (The Continent-spanning Nation) is basically the PLC, Ustio, and Gallia slammed into one nation.
I'm curious, are there different races of anthro animals? And if so, can they mate cross-species and make like mixed anthros?
 
Listen up here chap, your colonial breakaway state will be brought back under her magesty's crown! Rule Britannia! Britannia rules the waves! -Except france-
By choice. They don't want a place with such terrible food. They learned their lesson from the union of England and Scotland.
 
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Not at all a pretty map, just a concept I wanted to jot down.

The 2020's see a surge of nation-building projects in Africa and Asia* regarding linguistic nationalism. Most have an Anti-English-as-mother-tongue character, though more extreme movements oppose English as a Lingua Franca as well. China switches approaches from prioritizing Confucius Institute to funding third world countries redoing their infrastructure in local languages (not a bad idea, something perhaps worth dislodging Western influence over, see: CAR switching to to policy of an officially monolingual Sango-speaking state). Russia, though annoyed that some of the state most eager to drop the languages of former colonizers are the 'Stans, joins in, finding it rather easy way to play 'the good guy' against Western influence. Supporting Haiti's 'Haitianization' programs may, in Moscow's view, give Russia an Anti-U.S. base in the Caribbean. In some places like the Philippines or Tanzania, switching to one local language, like Tagalog or Swahili, is part of a larger process of nation-state formation, akin to what Europe went through in the 19th century (critics warn that this lead to historically poor consequences in Europe; local-unifiers-through-language retort that their states will avoid Europe's pitfalls). Another effect of this, is that Assad-type secular Arab leaders seeking Russian and/or Chinese support ditch Modern Standard Arabic in favor of local dialects of their own standardization (Egyptian as a language quickly becomes popular as a foreign language of study abroad). The U.S., though starting to ramp up tensions with China and Russia is rather unwilling to go to bat for Anglophone/Francophone elites in third world countries (Africa/South and Southeast Asia), though France is a little more interventionist on behalf of Francophone elites who ask for support.

The decade also sees India undergo extreme political changes. As a compromise in official language debates, English-Hindi at the national level is replaced with Hindi-Bengali-Tamil; a lot of other languages' speakers are unhappy, but it looks like the compromise which required the support of all major parties will hold, if only because drafting another one would be too hard. In 2030 a solidly leftist government wins power in Delhi, and to placate right-wing Hindu opposition it lends support to the long proposed idea of making Hindi an official language at the U.N., taking Arabic's spot. [Similarly language divided Nigeria looks on, wondering if a similar compromise would be worth it, but for now is stepping up English education, making a bet on the West.]

The only UN language not to lose any states and to grow in this time period, is Spanish, which becomes Belize's sole official language.

*Well, there are new stories of linguistic minorities getting mistreated in Europe, but that is not the focus of this map.
 

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What I'm saying is that there's a state named "Han" on the map, and I'm wondering how it's connected to the later dynasty.
A couple people have replied but I think I can add something to the discussion. Gonna have to blame this mixup on the inherent limitations of romaniztion (and in part, the practice of leaving out the accents in Pinyin).

Han here refers to the Kingdom of Hán (韩/韓), which was the smallest of the 7 great warring states, based in today's Western Henan. It has no relation to the Hàn Empire (汉/漢), which was named after the empires heartland in the region of Hànzhōng (汉中/漢中), roughly corresponding to the Guanzhong Plain in Southern Shaanxi, which was coincidentally the Qin Empire's heartland.

Marvellous work! Though I think there might be a mistake in the South along the border between the Han Vassals and Minyue Kingdom. IIRC the Nanyue Kingdom of Zhao Tuo held borders near the modern Guangdong-Fujian border, and had its capital in Panyu, or modern Guangzhou. In this map, not only does Minyue hold the Nanyue capital, it seems to have pushed deep into the Hakka Highlands.

I also thought the Nanyue had small holdouts on coastal Annam, but I might just be mistaken...
 
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Not at all a pretty map, just a concept I wanted to jot down.
You do realize that it was the southern Indians who insisted on English being an official language, correct? And how the heck would Moldava become Russian instead of Romanian? I am pleased to see Arabic going in multiple directions, but I feel that it would still be an official language. After all, the UN uses the Oxford version of English. Doesn't meant no one else can read it, and twenty years is hardly enough time to make at least twenty countries change Arabic to be incomprehensible to each other. And did you give Azerbaijan that portion of southern Armenia, or was that just the basemap?
 
You do realize that it was the southern Indians who insisted on English being an official language, correct? And how the heck would Moldava become Russian instead of Romanian? I am pleased to see Arabic going in multiple directions, but I feel that it would still be an official language. After all, the UN uses the Oxford version of English. Doesn't meant no one else can read it, and twenty years is hardly enough time to make at least twenty countries change Arabic to be incomprehensible to each other.
He probably meant they transitioned from written, literary Arabic to local dialects, which have been diverging already from centuries.
Like passing from an administration in Latin to an administration in French.
 

Polish Finland is something I never knew I wanted 10/10 would divide the world again​
That's the Greater Finnic Republic for you.

That is not good enough. Espania must have monopoly over America!!
Fair enough, though except for Brazil they hold all of the profitable parts of the Americas.

Objection. Norway would still have dual naming rights with Denmark, not "Prussia". All they have here is a Duchy. And odd the Swedes and Danes aren't doing things with that big white blob in northwest German. Frisians go on a rampage? And what is the situation for Croats in Hungary? Also odd the Poles decided to invade Magyar land over the mountains, but I suppose they were close at hand when the Ottomans fell.
That's a fair point. If I ever get around to changing things it might become Denmark-Norway-Prussia. My thinking is that Prussia becomes a kingdom early on but it made subservient to Denmark. I also should probably add in a color for the German state which I intended as a mid-level primarily mercantile power. The Croats are restless. And yeah, the Turanian Union expanded in all directions during the Revolutionary Wars.

Awesome! So glad it is!
Btw Turanism? Didn´t you mean sarmatism?
Hmmm. Good point. I thought I had a reason for that. I'll try to get around to changing it, but I'm not sure I like the way 'Sarmatian Union' sounds.

Don't you mean have discarded the racial-based caste system?
No, it's still around.

And, I imagine, an unwillingness on the part of Madrid to take on yet further commitments.
That and the fact they don't want to upset the balance of power. Spain probably could handle occupying one state as it is in a better economic state than IOTL, but it is still not going great and only keeps on chugging through residual effects of its former glory.

Think you need to move some things around in the writeup, since this follows directly from something two paragraphs ago.
Thanks! I'll try to get to that.

I think you can just toss the bolded part: the fact that the Ming were replaced by the Qing as OTL is somewhat intuitively obvious from the Qing, well, existing, and said change is not a pre-requisite for Chinese relative decline. :)
Alright.

I am a bit puzzled by Brabant: the Netherlands were inherited by the Habsburgs in the 1480s, and seem unlikely to have been lost by a victorious, Protestant-smashing Habsburg empire. Backstory?
I was thinking it was spun off as an independent Habsburg realm, but eventually came under the control of a native dynasty. Spain never bothered to take it back as it simply wasn't that important with its world-wide empire.
 
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Not at all a pretty map, just a concept I wanted to jot down.

The 2020's see a surge of nation-building projects in Africa and Asia* regarding linguistic nationalism. Most have an Anti-English-as-mother-tongue character, though more extreme movements oppose English as a Lingua Franca as well. China switches approaches from prioritizing Confucius Institute to funding third world countries redoing their infrastructure in local languages (not a bad idea, something perhaps worth dislodging Western influence over, see: CAR switching to to policy of an officially monolingual Sango-speaking state). Russia, though annoyed that some of the state most eager to drop the languages of former colonizers are the 'Stans, joins in, finding it rather easy way to play 'the good guy' against Western influence. Supporting Haiti's 'Haitianization' programs may, in Moscow's view, give Russia an Anti-U.S. base in the Caribbean. In some places like the Philippines or Tanzania, switching to one local language, like Tagalog or Swahili, is part of a larger process of nation-state formation, akin to what Europe went through in the 19th century (critics warn that this lead to historically poor consequences in Europe; local-unifiers-through-language retort that their states will avoid Europe's pitfalls). Another effect of this, is that Assad-type secular Arab leaders seeking Russian and/or Chinese support ditch Modern Standard Arabic in favor of local dialects of their own standardization (Egyptian as a language quickly becomes popular as a foreign language of study abroad). The U.S., though starting to ramp up tensions with China and Russia is rather unwilling to go to bat for Anglophone/Francophone elites in third world countries (Africa/South and Southeast Asia), though France is a little more interventionist on behalf of Francophone elites who ask for support.

The decade also sees India undergo extreme political changes. As a compromise in official language debates, English-Hindi at the national level is replaced with Hindi-Bengali-Tamil; a lot of other languages' speakers are unhappy, but it looks like the compromise which required the support of all major parties will hold, if only because drafting another one would be too hard. In 2030 a solidly leftist government wins power in Delhi, and to placate right-wing Hindu opposition it lends support to the long proposed idea of making Hindi an official language at the U.N., taking Arabic's spot. [Similarly language divided Nigeria looks on, wondering if a similar compromise would be worth it, but for now is stepping up English education, making a bet on the West.]

The only UN language not to lose any states and to grow in this time period, is Spanish, which becomes Belize's sole official language.

*Well, there are new stories of linguistic minorities getting mistreated in Europe, but that is not the focus of this map.
Where's Arabic? It's spoken by 230 million people and it is recognized as its own official language in the UN.
 
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