Crossposting from my timeline Dunes of the Desert. Top: political map. Bottom: forms of government.
Situation in AD 800.
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Crossposting from my timeline Dunes of the Desert. Top: political map. Bottom: forms of government.
Situation in AD 800.
Christian-descended. The POD is in the Middle Ages, and while the Reconquista was not entirely as OTL, it ended in much the same way, with a unified Castille and Aragon. Portugal was independent, but the chaos of the Revolutionary years allowed the new Hispanians to conquer it.
Spain is state atheist, much like the USSR, though not exactly as "gulag-happy". Britain is secular, and the official line is that religion is irrelevant to rulership. The most radical states are in the ruins of France, some of which are rather radically anti-religious and prone to executions. That said, the Hispanians try to reign them in so as not to give the League of Rome a cassus belli.
Both are more or less like the USSR, but nicer and more competent. There is less corruption and they have a better economic situation. It's more centralized like the USSR under Lenin and the constituent Republics are more representative regions than actually autonomous. I would say Britain is more liberal and less extreme than Hispania.
Well, it's in theory an absolute monarchy, but it most resembles gilded age America where workers rights are more or less unheard of and the captains of industry are more or less in absolute control. The name comes from the Inuttitut name for Newfoundland: Nunatsuak. The name only applied for the region until the flight of the monarchy, and before then the colony was known as Portugal Northern New Europe. Similarly, Zeengu is a former Dutch colony and named for the Xingu River.
Well, the Panjabi invasion of the Holkars, which has precipitated pro-British Summaplebeian risings is rather big in the region, the biggest flashpoints are Summaplebeian funding of anti-colonial, pro-independence movements, particularly in Holy Roman Central Africa. A war would definitely be anyone's to win, and one thing's for certain: it'd be long and difficult. I'd actually think no one single alliance would win a total victory.
Latin remained in use as the language of science and philosophy (political theory being included in that field) and the title simply caught on. Of course, there are different branches and schools of Summaplebeianism that are likely named for their founders and important figures, but I have not thought that through. Latin itself is slightly more in the vogue than OTL, but only in the Catholic world and while science may be written in it, popular literature (though it is much less widespread than IOTL) is not very big as literacy is lower.
What's the government of Galicia? Nice map btw
Crossposting from my timeline Dunes of the Desert. Top: political map. Bottom: forms of government.
Situation in AD 800.
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Yes. The US Navy remnant in equatorial africa recognizes the Earth I US government, and before it collapsed the Chinese government recognized the Earth I PRC. The only extant Chinese faction that still does is Yan'an though.
Scotland and Galicia are supposed to be the same colour as their west European neighbours, that is feudal.What's the government of Galicia? Nice map btw
At the Versailles Peace Conference in 1919, French Prime Minister Georges Clemenceau wanted to cripple Germany to the point where the German Nation could never again threaten the security of Europe. Clemenceau's approach was rejected by the other allied states, and a more lenient treaty was imposed upon Germany.
28 Years later, in the city of Koblenz, the United Kingdom and Soviet Union decided the fate of a defeated Germany. While the capitalist empire and vanguard of communism were allies of convenience who did not agree about much - they were both determined to avoid the mistakes made after the First World War.
Leniency towards Germany allowed the German state to come close to subjugating the entire continent of Europe,
Leniency towards Germany allowed the German state to commit genocide on an industrial scale against the Jews of Europe,
Leniency towards Germany allowed the German state to commit unspeakable atrocities against the slavic peoples,
Leniency towards Germany allowed the German state to inaugurate the use of nerve agents in warfare,
Leniency towards Germany allowed the German state to lay waste to Paris,
Leniency towards Germany allowed the German state to blow the dikes of the Netherlands,
Leniency towards Germany left more than 60 million people dead,
This time around, there would be no leniency to Germany.
28 Years later, in the city of Koblenz, the United Kingdom and Soviet Union decided the fate of a defeated Germany. While the capitalist empire and vanguard of communism were allies of convenience who did not agree about much - they were both determined to avoid the mistakes made after the First World War.
Leniency towards Germany allowed the German state to come close to subjugating the entire continent of Europe,
Leniency towards Germany allowed the German state to commit genocide on an industrial scale against the Jews of Europe,
Leniency towards Germany allowed the German state to commit unspeakable atrocities against the slavic peoples,
Leniency towards Germany allowed the German state to inaugurate the use of nerve agents in warfare,
Leniency towards Germany allowed the German state to lay waste to Paris,
Leniency towards Germany allowed the German state to blow the dikes of the Netherlands,
Leniency towards Germany left more than 60 million people dead,
This time around, there would be no leniency to Germany.
At the Versailles Peace Conference in 1919, French Prime Minister Georges Clemenceau wanted to cripple Germany to the point where the German Nation could never again threaten the security of Europe. Clemenceau's approach was rejected by the other allied states, and a more lenient treaty was imposed upon Germany.
28 Years later, in the city of Koblenz, the United Kingdom and Soviet Union decided the fate of a defeated Germany. While the capitalist empire and vanguard of communism were allies of convenience who did not agree about much - they were both determined to avoid the mistakes made after the First World War.
Leniency towards Germany allowed the German state to come close to subjugating the entire continent of Europe,
Leniency towards Germany allowed the German state to commit genocide on an industrial scale against the Jews of Europe,
Leniency towards Germany allowed the German state to commit unspeakable atrocities against the slavic peoples,
Leniency towards Germany allowed the German state to inaugurate the use of nerve agents in warfare,
Leniency towards Germany allowed the German state to lay waste to Paris,
Leniency towards Germany allowed the German state to blow the dikes of the Netherlands,
Leniency towards Germany left more than 60 million people dead,
This time around, there would be no leniency to Germany.
And the remaining German state? Is it communist? Democratic? Capitalist? An agrarian state like the Morgenthau Plan wanted? Will it be divided or even balkanised?
A unified Communist State (admittedly one that's seen nearly all of its valuable assets that aren't bolted down carried off and is having trouble feeding its own people)
Interesting! Do the Soviets install Ernst Thälmann and the KPD? Or do they find another communist ruler, and how is the party called? Also, what strain of communism does this state follow (I would presume Orthodox Marxism-Leninism)?
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Realized that I actually uploaded an older version of the Wajin settlement map. Area around Nemuro (Eastern Hokkaido) is redone in the new map. I've also attached the other two maps I used, 1) a map of the old 1914 sub-prefectures and 2) a 1669 map of the Matsumae Domain and associated trade outposts at Ainu villages.
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Thälmann dies before the conclusion of WWII, so he won't be leading this Germany. I imagine the state resembles a larger GDR, so officially Marxist-Leninist.
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This time around, there would be no leniency to Germany.
By Zeus...
I see no mention of the USA. Did they not joined the war, or was America totally foucs on Japan?
What say Italy?
I honestly don't think the UK would allow such an large Communist Germany.
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WIP map. POD is Pancho Villa baits America into warring with Mexico in 1916. The result is America stays out of WW1 and the latter ends in a peace by exhaustion. Meanwhile, given that this time is congruent with the American occupations or interventions of all of Central America/the Antilles bar Costa Rica and El Salvador, President Wilson uses the fight into Mexico to turn this into an international institution worldbuilding exercise that in practice is just Iraq 100 years earlier.
America still wins by sheer dirth of manpower, funding, and equipment but the result is a massive funding increase for the Armed Forces, the utter disgust at vast segments of the world for what seems like blatant imperalism, and more importantly the growing rivalry between the US Navy and the US Army that slowly begins to the mirror the divisions of the historical WW2 Imperial Japanese Army and Imperial Japanese Navy. The navy of course focused on Central America, forcing loans to build infraestructure and giving vast amounts of land to corporations in New York and New Orleans. Thus beginning the incesteous ties of navy and corporate America. Meanwhile the army wants forced population movement, pacification, and carrot and stick approaches to cement control.
By the early 20s, the occupation will end leaving the Central American common market and common court of justice but the damage will be done. Not to the occupied territories, those would go on to unevenly prosper in the decade that followed from immigration, centralization, and standardization. But to the American armed forces, growing rich off plunder and outside funding.
Across the Atlantic, and a peace by exhaustion is declared. France's army mutinies and it goes Socialist; the Soviets now having a major ally. Germany preps up a central european defence pact. Britain enters hardcore austerity. Faisal keeps Syria and allies with the reduced Ottomans to secure his shaky yet constitutional kingdom. Ataturk, freed from the pressures of Syria and the French is quickly turning the tide in Anatolia.
In Africa, the French Empire is collapsing. Already in Asia Indochina has quickly broken free. Who knows how long it will last?
America still wins by sheer dirth of manpower, funding, and equipment but the result is a massive funding increase for the Armed Forces, the utter disgust at vast segments of the world for what seems like blatant imperalism, and more importantly the growing rivalry between the US Navy and the US Army that slowly begins to the mirror the divisions of the historical WW2 Imperial Japanese Army and Imperial Japanese Navy. The navy of course focused on Central America, forcing loans to build infraestructure and giving vast amounts of land to corporations in New York and New Orleans. Thus beginning the incesteous ties of navy and corporate America. Meanwhile the army wants forced population movement, pacification, and carrot and stick approaches to cement control.
By the early 20s, the occupation will end leaving the Central American common market and common court of justice but the damage will be done. Not to the occupied territories, those would go on to unevenly prosper in the decade that followed from immigration, centralization, and standardization. But to the American armed forces, growing rich off plunder and outside funding.
Across the Atlantic, and a peace by exhaustion is declared. France's army mutinies and it goes Socialist; the Soviets now having a major ally. Germany preps up a central european defence pact. Britain enters hardcore austerity. Faisal keeps Syria and allies with the reduced Ottomans to secure his shaky yet constitutional kingdom. Ataturk, freed from the pressures of Syria and the French is quickly turning the tide in Anatolia.
In Africa, the French Empire is collapsing. Already in Asia Indochina has quickly broken free. Who knows how long it will last?
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Because I have not nearly finished editing Europe.
This is mostly the 1920 basemap edited.Thanks! My thinking there was that it is strongly influenced by the Pashtuns, so has adopted their styles despite the fact it is ruled by a Kurdish Dynasty.
That's what happens when communist powers invade from the north and south and your "allies" are people with millennium-old grudges against you.
Do any of you have a BAM map of Caucasian ethnic groups or languages? Will credit. A world map of languages that's very high resolution would also do. Need asap. Thanks in advance.
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