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B_Munro said:
Not a banana republic, just a banana? :closedeyesmile:
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Venice is, just barely, not a banana.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Banana

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Jürgen

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This is the map of Taagedalen (Misty Valley), the lowest dry area on earth. It's a oasis of life in a cold ice desert, it have been isolated from the rest of world for million years, a mix of high mouintain, a dense humid atmosphere and vulcanism. The minor valley Bird Valley are colder, have less bio diversity and lies higher, through still far deeper than any other. Bird Valley have single forest a few kilometer broad and 50 kilometer long along the northern banks of Muspelheim Lake, to the north a hundred meter high cliff keep the heat from which keep it hot enough to be viable while a waterfalls and fogs from the north gives the forest the water it needs. Taagedalen on the other hand have massive forest spreading out over the valley. The life have been mostly isolate since the Oligoscene.

Light blue show freshwater lakes
Dark blue show hot volcanic dead salt lakes, where only microscopic life can survive.
Light green show high land climate
Dark green show temperate and mediterranean climate
Red show the two mountain pass where you can access Taagedalen
Dark grey show the four municipalities in the autonomous region of West Greenland

Also yes this is meant to be part of timeline in the ASB subboard.

https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/valley-of-mist-or-taagedalen.429015/
 
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water123

water123

Valdore Javorsky said:
I can hope that the automation in germany keeps being so damn slow (gov. fails at everything regarding digitalization, climate and electro mobility) that it'll keep me alive for a few decades - unless the failed immigration policies turn out to be a fatal decision for the integrity of the country...
*Spirals down into further depression*
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Ay dude, you are gonna be alright. You're a hell of a writer, and you are more creative in your map making than even I am. The world will work itself out; keep your imagination up and you might one day not even have to worry about having to fight over a job that is getting taken over by automation :)

Also, on India, perhaps throw in some Bábist/Baha'i/Azali states? To get you up to speed, when the Bab died, the Babist faith split between the Baha'i, who followed Báhá'u'llah, while the rest became the Azali or even stayed with Bábism. Perhaps have the Bábist followers migrate into India, where states that follow each different sect are all fighting against each other?
 
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AmericanAdam

Aqua817 said:
In the year 2050, the world slowly turns into a cinder.

Sure, the early two thousands were packed. With the resurgence of Russia, the Middle Eastern Alignment, and several wars in Africa, the world seemed to be gearing up for a new war. In the United States, yeas of subpar presidency lead the country to essentially fester in civil strife. In fact, between the mass deportation of illegal immigrants to Mexico regardless of national origin (a move that was heavily supported by the Republican Party but chastened by nearly everyone else) and growing economic strife, a far right government ended up taking over the rapidly collapsing Mexican government. North Korea went out, not with a bang, but with a whimper, simply surrendering to South Korea after a military coup took out the Kims deep in the night. The PRC, while still "communist," is essentially a capitalist form of government.

And then the war never came.

In 2050, everything is at a standstill. Automation has taken nearly every job there is to have, but Universal Basic Income and such failed to catch on. However, the global population still swelled to over 10 billion. In America, this lead to a generations of people being born and then told that they essentially have no purpose. The suicide rate in elementary schools is as high as the suicide rate in the most strenuous of American high schools in 2017. A similar trend has gripped Europe and China. Net Neutrality is as dead as the telegraph, meaning that the internet is no longer an outlet for those who are dissatisfied with things. In response, police brutality went from being simply a kind of awful fluke to an accepted part of life. Riots and movements for change are stomped out as quickly as they begin. The prison population continues to swell, as the American Prison System is exported into Europe and worldwide. Religion has begun to fade, not into Atheism, but a kind of apatheistic agnosticism, the kind that says "even if there is a God, He doesn't seem to care about us enough to affect our daily lives, so why should we care about Him?"

Russia and China at one point seemed to be nearing a conflict, but ultimately continued funding proxy wars to make sure their top brass got paid so that the governments would remain in power. A similar thing has happened in the Middle East, with ultimately everyone getting enough oil to make it so that they would be able to support enough vehicles. Renewable energy did OK, enough to keep some islands from falling into the ocean, but with the last hurricane season having a hurricane with 300+mph winds make landfall in Savannah, Georgia and burn it's way through Georgia, some are worried it might be coming back. However, for the few islands that still sank, no one would take the refugees, and many ended up disappearing into the sea. It is still better than what happened in Bangladesh, with the country's borders essentially maintained by shooting anyone who looks like they're either about to try to sneak into India or leave Bangladeshi territorial waters.

The only really growing power is Korea, and even then, ever since it failed to woo the ASEAN powers and with many African already having China as a backer, it really doesn't have anywhere to go. Japan is a decrepit state, around a tenth white these days, and pretty much falling apart at the seams as a half forgotten American lapdog.

Space travel never really got popular except for the very rich. No one is willing to scrape together enough money to terraform Mars, and the horrifying failure of the Elon Musk Mars Mission (the entire crew died when the capsule caught fire when it was descending into Martian atmosphere. The entire crew cooked live on the most watched broadcast in the history of humankind). Asteroid mining is a pipe dream of some of the newest dreamers, but no one is really willing to fund them. Most raw material is got by deep-mantle drilling (the core of the Earth has been reached, and some are even calling for the valuable iron and nickel to be mined from it).

And thus, the world slowly burns. Not in nuclear fire, nor in a plague, or famine, or any number of calamities, but simply slowly falling apart.

And if you were to ask anyone, they would say it's not sad anymore.

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This is what I fear is most possible as a dystopia, and certainly one I don't want to live in, brilliant work my dude.
 

Limabot

Aqua817 said:
In the year 2050, the world slowly turns into a cinder.

Sure, the early two thousands were packed. With the resurgence of Russia, the Middle Eastern Alignment, and several wars in Africa, the world seemed to be gearing up for a new war. In the United States, yeas of subpar presidency lead the country to essentially fester in civil strife. In fact, between the mass deportation of illegal immigrants to Mexico regardless of national origin (a move that was heavily supported by the Republican Party but chastened by nearly everyone else) and growing economic strife, a far right government ended up taking over the rapidly collapsing Mexican government. North Korea went out, not with a bang, but with a whimper, simply surrendering to South Korea after a military coup took out the Kims deep in the night. The PRC, while still "communist," is essentially a capitalist form of government.

And then the war never came.

In 2050, everything is at a standstill. Automation has taken nearly every job there is to have, but Universal Basic Income and such failed to catch on. However, the global population still swelled to over 10 billion. In America, this lead to a generations of people being born and then told that they essentially have no purpose. The suicide rate in elementary schools is as high as the suicide rate in the most strenuous of American high schools in 2017. A similar trend has gripped Europe and China. Net Neutrality is as dead as the telegraph, meaning that the internet is no longer an outlet for those who are dissatisfied with things. In response, police brutality went from being simply a kind of awful fluke to an accepted part of life. Riots and movements for change are stomped out as quickly as they begin. The prison population continues to swell, as the American Prison System is exported into Europe and worldwide. Religion has begun to fade, not into Atheism, but a kind of apatheistic agnosticism, the kind that says "even if there is a God, He doesn't seem to care about us enough to affect our daily lives, so why should we care about Him?"

Russia and China at one point seemed to be nearing a conflict, but ultimately continued funding proxy wars to make sure their top brass got paid so that the governments would remain in power. A similar thing has happened in the Middle East, with ultimately everyone getting enough oil to make it so that they would be able to support enough vehicles. Renewable energy did OK, enough to keep some islands from falling into the ocean, but with the last hurricane season having a hurricane with 300+mph winds make landfall in Savannah, Georgia and burn it's way through Georgia, some are worried it might be coming back. However, for the few islands that still sank, no one would take the refugees, and many ended up disappearing into the sea. It is still better than what happened in Bangladesh, with the country's borders essentially maintained by shooting anyone who looks like they're either about to try to sneak into India or leave Bangladeshi territorial waters.

The only really growing power is Korea, and even then, ever since it failed to woo the ASEAN powers and with many African already having China as a backer, it really doesn't have anywhere to go. Japan is a decrepit state, around a tenth white these days, and pretty much falling apart at the seams as a half forgotten American lapdog.

Space travel never really got popular except for the very rich. No one is willing to scrape together enough money to terraform Mars, and the horrifying failure of the Elon Musk Mars Mission (the entire crew died when the capsule caught fire when it was descending into Martian atmosphere. The entire crew cooked live on the most watched broadcast in the history of humankind). Asteroid mining is a pipe dream of some of the newest dreamers, but no one is really willing to fund them. Most raw material is got by deep-mantle drilling (the core of the Earth has been reached, and some are even calling for the valuable iron and nickel to be mined from it).

And thus, the world slowly burns. Not in nuclear fire, nor in a plague, or famine, or any number of calamities, but simply slowly falling apart.

And if you were to ask anyone, they would say it's not sad anymore.

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This is kind of scary. Unlike a war, which has at least something happening, this world looks like it is stale, with nothing changing. The world will be sameness eternal.
 

The Uchronian

Aqua817 said:
In the year 2050, the world slowly turns into a cinder.

Sure, the early two thousands were packed. With the resurgence of Russia, the Middle Eastern Alignment, and several wars in Africa, the world seemed to be gearing up for a new war. In the United States, yeas of subpar presidency lead the country to essentially fester in civil strife. In fact, between the mass deportation of illegal immigrants to Mexico regardless of national origin (a move that was heavily supported by the Republican Party but chastened by nearly everyone else) and growing economic strife, a far right government ended up taking over the rapidly collapsing Mexican government. North Korea went out, not with a bang, but with a whimper, simply surrendering to South Korea after a military coup took out the Kims deep in the night. The PRC, while still "communist," is essentially a capitalist form of government.

And then the war never came.

In 2050, everything is at a standstill. Automation has taken nearly every job there is to have, but Universal Basic Income and such failed to catch on. However, the global population still swelled to over 10 billion. In America, this lead to a generations of people being born and then told that they essentially have no purpose. The suicide rate in elementary schools is as high as the suicide rate in the most strenuous of American high schools in 2017. A similar trend has gripped Europe and China. Net Neutrality is as dead as the telegraph, meaning that the internet is no longer an outlet for those who are dissatisfied with things. In response, police brutality went from being simply a kind of awful fluke to an accepted part of life. Riots and movements for change are stomped out as quickly as they begin. The prison population continues to swell, as the American Prison System is exported into Europe and worldwide. Religion has begun to fade, not into Atheism, but a kind of apatheistic agnosticism, the kind that says "even if there is a God, He doesn't seem to care about us enough to affect our daily lives, so why should we care about Him?"

Russia and China at one point seemed to be nearing a conflict, but ultimately continued funding proxy wars to make sure their top brass got paid so that the governments would remain in power. A similar thing has happened in the Middle East, with ultimately everyone getting enough oil to make it so that they would be able to support enough vehicles. Renewable energy did OK, enough to keep some islands from falling into the ocean, but with the last hurricane season having a hurricane with 300+mph winds make landfall in Savannah, Georgia and burn it's way through Georgia, some are worried it might be coming back. However, for the few islands that still sank, no one would take the refugees, and many ended up disappearing into the sea. It is still better than what happened in Bangladesh, with the country's borders essentially maintained by shooting anyone who looks like they're either about to try to sneak into India or leave Bangladeshi territorial waters.

The only really growing power is Korea, and even then, ever since it failed to woo the ASEAN powers and with many African already having China as a backer, it really doesn't have anywhere to go. Japan is a decrepit state, around a tenth white these days, and pretty much falling apart at the seams as a half forgotten American lapdog.

Space travel never really got popular except for the very rich. No one is willing to scrape together enough money to terraform Mars, and the horrifying failure of the Elon Musk Mars Mission (the entire crew died when the capsule caught fire when it was descending into Martian atmosphere. The entire crew cooked live on the most watched broadcast in the history of humankind). Asteroid mining is a pipe dream of some of the newest dreamers, but no one is really willing to fund them. Most raw material is got by deep-mantle drilling (the core of the Earth has been reached, and some are even calling for the valuable iron and nickel to be mined from it).

And thus, the world slowly burns. Not in nuclear fire, nor in a plague, or famine, or any number of calamities, but simply slowly falling apart.

And if you were to ask anyone, they would say it's not sad anymore.

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I dunno about this one. In a nutshell, some parts are actually fairly plausible(civil strife in America, major war avoided by proxy), but a lot of others nowhere near as much(A 300 mph hurricane hitting Georgia? Deep-mantle drilling replacing asteroid mining? Police brutality being accepted as part of life by America as a whole? Extremely high suicide rates in elementary schools?).....to be quite honest, if you were trying to make a plausible "dark" world that also wasn't edgy, I'm afraid this fell well short of that mark in both regards.

But, on the other hand, at least the storyline was somewhat unique; not too often you see stuff quite like this on here.
 

245

Aqua817 said:
In the year 2050, the world slowly turns into a cinder.

Sure, the early two thousands were packed. With the resurgence of Russia, the Middle Eastern Alignment, and several wars in Africa, the world seemed to be gearing up for a new war. In the United States, yeas of subpar presidency lead the country to essentially fester in civil strife. In fact, between the mass deportation of illegal immigrants to Mexico regardless of national origin (a move that was heavily supported by the Republican Party but chastened by nearly everyone else) and growing economic strife, a far right government ended up taking over the rapidly collapsing Mexican government. North Korea went out, not with a bang, but with a whimper, simply surrendering to South Korea after a military coup took out the Kims deep in the night. The PRC, while still "communist," is essentially a capitalist form of government.

And then the war never came.

In 2050, everything is at a standstill. Automation has taken nearly every job there is to have, but Universal Basic Income and such failed to catch on. However, the global population still swelled to over 10 billion. In America, this lead to a generations of people being born and then told that they essentially have no purpose. The suicide rate in elementary schools is as high as the suicide rate in the most strenuous of American high schools in 2017. A similar trend has gripped Europe and China. Net Neutrality is as dead as the telegraph, meaning that the internet is no longer an outlet for those who are dissatisfied with things. In response, police brutality went from being simply a kind of awful fluke to an accepted part of life. Riots and movements for change are stomped out as quickly as they begin. The prison population continues to swell, as the American Prison System is exported into Europe and worldwide. Religion has begun to fade, not into Atheism, but a kind of apatheistic agnosticism, the kind that says "even if there is a God, He doesn't seem to care about us enough to affect our daily lives, so why should we care about Him?"

Russia and China at one point seemed to be nearing a conflict, but ultimately continued funding proxy wars to make sure their top brass got paid so that the governments would remain in power. A similar thing has happened in the Middle East, with ultimately everyone getting enough oil to make it so that they would be able to support enough vehicles. Renewable energy did OK, enough to keep some islands from falling into the ocean, but with the last hurricane season having a hurricane with 300+mph winds make landfall in Savannah, Georgia and burn it's way through Georgia, some are worried it might be coming back. However, for the few islands that still sank, no one would take the refugees, and many ended up disappearing into the sea. It is still better than what happened in Bangladesh, with the country's borders essentially maintained by shooting anyone who looks like they're either about to try to sneak into India or leave Bangladeshi territorial waters.

The only really growing power is Korea, and even then, ever since it failed to woo the ASEAN powers and with many African already having China as a backer, it really doesn't have anywhere to go. Japan is a decrepit state, around a tenth white these days, and pretty much falling apart at the seams as a half forgotten American lapdog.

Space travel never really got popular except for the very rich. No one is willing to scrape together enough money to terraform Mars, and the horrifying failure of the Elon Musk Mars Mission (the entire crew died when the capsule caught fire when it was descending into Martian atmosphere. The entire crew cooked live on the most watched broadcast in the history of humankind). Asteroid mining is a pipe dream of some of the newest dreamers, but no one is really willing to fund them. Most raw material is got by deep-mantle drilling (the core of the Earth has been reached, and some are even calling for the valuable iron and nickel to be mined from it).

And thus, the world slowly burns. Not in nuclear fire, nor in a plague, or famine, or any number of calamities, but simply slowly falling apart.

And if you were to ask anyone, they would say it's not sad anymore.

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hows latina amirca,afirca and oceania, and whats spacificly happening in europe. hows indie.
 
water123

water123

CaliBoy1990 said:
I dunno about this one. In a nutshell, some parts are actually fairly plausible(civil strife in America, major war avoided by proxy), but a lot of others nowhere near as much(A 300 mph hurricane hitting Georgia? Deep-mantle drilling replacing asteroid mining? Police brutality being accepted as part of life by America as a whole? Extremely high suicide rates in elementary schools?).....to be quite honest, if you were trying to make a plausible "dark" world that also wasn't edgy, I'm afraid this fell well short of that mark in both regards.

But, on the other hand, at least the storyline was somewhat unique; not too often you see stuff quite like this on here.
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Eh, overall, dark stuff like this isn't usually my forte, but I was trying something new. I'm glad that it seems like you enjoyed it however :)

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hows latina amirca,afirca and oceania, and whats spacificly happening in europe. hows indie.
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Latin America pretty much made it to around the development that Poland is at now, but between a "coup cycle" appearing and overall domestic improvements being unprofitable, things never got much past that. Africa is basically a resource-depleted playground for the great powers to waste the last bits of their military on. Australia is rapidly desertifying and a lot of people have left for America, China, Indonesia, or Japan. New Zealand is a stagnant but stable state. Europe pretty much is tensely staring at Russia, even more so with the EU collapsing but the defense pacts remaining. India never had their big nuclear war with Pakistan, and overall feels more and more pressured by China every day.


Also, quick, an extremely early WIP to cheer everyone up!
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245

Aqua817 said:
Eh, overall, dark stuff like this isn't usually my forte, but I was trying something new. I'm glad that it seems like you enjoyed it however :)


Latin America pretty much made it to around the development that Poland is at now, but between a "coup cycle" appearing and overall domestic improvements being unprofitable, things never got much past that. Africa is basically a resource-depleted playground for the great powers to waste the last bits of their military on. Australia is rapidly desertifying and a lot of people have left for America, China, Indonesia, or Japan. New Zealand is a stagnant but stable state. Europe pretty much is tensely staring at Russia, even more so with the EU collapsing but the defense pacts remaining. India never had their big nuclear war with Pakistan, and overall feels more and more pressured by China every day.
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how are the world religions doing and how much have they change. and whats the media(music,cinema,ect.) like in this world. and hows south east Asia. any new ideological development?
 
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