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Does anyone have a Robinson projection with a lot more of the longitude lines. Similar to this
 

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If you guys remember a while back, I made a map of an alternate US (the eastern half at least) for my TL. Here, I finally managed to complete the rest of it. The names of some states may be a subject to change and the Native American states will be added later, but overall I think I'll be going with this.
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I've a pretty neat map. It's a scenario if the Articles of Confederation had been kept and thus the US would split into a few nations; New England, New York, the Midatlantic, Virginia, and the Deep South (I'll call it Dixie). First of all, because of a lack of American unity, manifest destiny would not be as prevalent and as such, relatively powerful tribes like the Creek, Chickasaw, Cherokee, Choctaw, Seminole, and Iroquois would remain independent and gradually organize into distinct nation- states. Additionally, much of the Midwest would remain French Canadian. Without a unified US, much of the modern US west of Mississippi would be left with a power vacuum. The most likely party to fill the void would be the British from Canada. As the British expanded out West, they'd spend much more money and resources on developing their North American territories. This neglect would allow French and Portuguese to settle significant parts of the subcontinent and even some Indian factions would band together to remain independent. This would also disallow Britain from taking places like Rhodesia and Egypt. Meanwhile, back in North America, without a Louisiana purchase, most of the land goes to the British with some parts being independent. The Bear Flag and Texan Revolts would still be successful (with help from the British) and California and Texas would become independent and allied to the British. In the East Coast, New England, New York, the Midatlantic, and to a lesser extent Virginia, would become industrial nations comparable to Europe while the Deep South would remain an agricultural backwater. For most of the nineteenth century, Europe would remain much the same until WW1. Without US intervention, the war would drag on into a stalemate as neither the allies nor Central Powers could break through on the Western Front (though the CP would still win in the East). Eventually, both sides would be forced to cut their losses. The Germans would make out marginally better, taking Belgium as a puppet but loosing some colonies. Austria Hungary would also reform into the Danube Federation, composed of Austrians, Hungarians, and Southern Slavs. In the Middle East, the British would still help the Hashemites even without Egypt but ITTL, the Hashemites would mange to keep Transjordan and Palestine and thus would be able defeat the Sauds. Thus we would be left with a world that is in a sort of Cold War between the CP and Allies, with the growing threat of Communism (which still rises in Russia) also coming into play.
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What if Napoleon and Franz Joseph end as allies fighting Garibaldi and Cavour and split Italy between France and Austria, instead of making it unified kingdom, threaten both empires?
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Not really allo-historical, but just testing a type of map:
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Pretty much made this through Google Earth. Zoomed in at a certain point, fucked with the perspective, and then traced over it in Gimp
 
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Made another map oof. It's for Zealandia and it's a followup for my older Zealandia map, taking some of your feedback. I'd suggest looking at my older Zealandia post for geographical info.
Pink: Anglo- descendants
Bright Orange: Dutch- descendants
Orange: Melanesia
Brown: Polynesians
Lime: Australian Aboriginals
Blue: Old Zealandians*
*an ethnic group somewhat similar to the Celts. Though they were initially the only group of people on the continent, they were pushed back to the Central mountains and are now a minority group.
 
Here it is, without further ado, Longue vie à l'empereur!

The state of the world 1916, before the outbreak of the Great War:

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  1. Washington D.C has stood as a shining beacon of the United States. Towering skyscrapers have turned it into the greatest city in the United States, besides, of course, Chicago and New York.

  2. Mexico underwent a crushing loss in the Mexican-American war of 1846, ceding their northern territories. Only 20 years later, in 1868, a joint Franco-American invasion of Mexico to install a imperial puppet state in the Americas resulted in another crushing defeat. The Americans took Baja California while the French installed the puppet of the Empire of Mexico. A popular Mexican revolution in 1871 overthrew the French government while the French were distracted by foreign interventions in South America. Mexico began to be controlled by a military, authoritarian junta that demanded the newly founded Mexican Republic be restored to its glory. It joined the Renewal Pact as a founding member in 1889, and annexed Guatemala and British Belize shortly afterward. Recently, Mexico has been going through massive reforms and industrial projects to bring it up to date for what it sees as the ultimate goal; the toppling of the American Dictatorship.

  3. A careful balance currently exists in South America. After the triple alliance against Bolivia, the different nations all prepare for the impending South American war. Chile, a nation largely in the British Sphere, watches for Argentina aggression. Argentinian watches Brazil and Chile doubly, having joined the Renewal Pact. Paraguay, bolstered by the war of the triple alliance, has recently received Imperial French support and may join the continental system soon enough. Peru, the main rival of Gran Colombia, also keeps watch to the south. Brazil, a voice of reason on the continent, continues to reform and liberalize, as their sizable military stands guard.

  4. After the Columbian-Peruvian war, Gran Colombia was decentralized and liberalized with the loss of Eastern Ecuador, establishing itself as a stable democracy between the ever constant threat of Peru and American imperialism. Over the last few decades, it has become a major force to be reckoned with, but many think that it’s decentralization hinders it’s true potential.

  5. The Central American Federation is a US propped “republic” designed to help close in on Mexico and protect the US controlled Panama Canal.
    1. (Because I made a mistake) India now sits with rising French power and the longstanding British dominance. The French, known for ignoring there Indian territories following the end of the Napoleonic Wars, have now began to turn their attention there, as a vital French colonial outpost in the case of a new war between the British and the French Imperialists.
  6. The French stronghold in Africa is by far the most integrated territories. Recently, French North Africa has come under threat by British encroachments, and some might say, Americans.

  7. The Ottomans, the terminally sick man of Europe, lost much of their territories in the Middle East following the Arab revolt, which created the Arabian kingdoms, Egypt, the Mashriqi, among others. Much to nationalists in the Balkans chagrin, however, they have somehow managed to keep hold of much of Bulgaria and even Northern Greece, holding the territory in the Balkan War.

  8. France, the center of the world, increasingly looks like they might not remain that way for too long, but for now they remain a superpower. Russia looks from the East, and across the channel, the Imperial party looks at the seas they once controlled with no real opponents.

  9. Italy has long remained a stronghold of Bonapartism. France proper controls the areas around Rome along with Piedmont and Liguria, while the puppets of the Kingdom of Sicily and the Kingdom of Italy control Southern and Eastern Italy, respectively. Since the client state’s creation, Italian nationalism periodically rears its head in the region, and since the Italian Uprising of 1893, the Italian peninsula is looking very unstable, and prone to radical forces.

  10. Austria, while nominally still independent of the Continental System, is now almost entirely relying on France and its associated states. Some radical members of the government now look towards Russia as a way to regain it’s pride, however.

  11. The Rhine, now split on two sides between the German Confederation and Imperial French, increasingly is becoming the center of the Imperial Economy. This economic moving of industry was compounded by the Paris stock crash, and is one of the most industrialized regions in the world.

  12. Denmark-Norway, specifically Copenhagen, have become the center of Nordic culture, and a regional power and French ally in the north, even gaining Malmo following the war.

  13. The Russian empire, leader of the renewal pact, has been beaten over and over, but finally look like they might have a chance to be in the sun.

  14. Prussia, after being defeated in the Napoleonic wars, were able to escape the continental system following de-mobilization, but they were still reduced to a tiny state comprised of Ostpreussen and Brandenburg. Polish-Lithuanian and the German Confederation look hungrily on. Some radical members of the Prussian aristocracy support joining the Renewal Pact, but this is seen as impractical and stupid to the French-based Prussian economy. But with war seemingly looming on the horizon, perhaps the Prussian rump state has a chance to restore its former glory.

  15. The British now stand as the main competitor to the Imperial French all across the globe. Each side stare at each other across the Channel in a seemingly endless Mexican standoff, threatening the greatest war, perhaps even greater then the Napoleonic Wars. What stands in the future of the United Kingdom is yet to be seen.

  16. After the Chilean-Argentine war, Chile established Patagonia as a puppet. Argentina quickly fell to supporters of the Renewal Pact.

  17. Canada, while still a loyal member of the Empire, was deeply frustrated during the Napoleonic Wars, in the American, theatre, and their perceived loss of the “race to the Pacific” a British-American “competition” to see who could claim the lands of the West first. Quebecan independence has also seen a resurgence recently.

  18. (Not sure where 18 went)

  19. Persia, at first bitter at the Russo-Persian war which stole their access to the Caspian, have begun reconciliation with the Empire. They see an opportunity to take Turkish lands and possibly even Baghdad, under the control of the Mashriqi. Recently, it even joined the Renewal Pact.

  20. Saudi Arabia, a pro-british state, has been ever-growing since their establishment with joint British-Saud cooperation in 1900. They pose a threat to French Hegemony in the region and could be a very useful ally in the case of war.

  21. A state created by the French, Hashemite controlled Hejaz is mainly used to challenge Saud support in the region, but the fight is looking more hopeless every day, as the Sauds control most of Arabia, including Qatar, Bahrain, and could even control British Muscat in the future, with negotiations currently happening.

  22. The Pacific is in contention between four world powers over who would gain supremacy in the event of war: Japan, Britain, France, and the United States. Currently, the US and Japan have continued to bolster naval bases in the region, and relations have been getting progressively worse between the two giants.

  23. Australia is split between French West Australia, which established colonies in Bonaparteville in the immediate aftermath of the Napoleonic Wars, and the larger and stronger British East Australia, with control over Van Diemen's land and the most populous cities.

  24. British South Africa Sits as a counterpart to French North Africa, along with small Russian claims in the region. If war was to break out, heavy fighting would certainly ensue in the thick jungles and sweltering savannahs of the region.

  25. Many expected Sweden to go the way that many nations ad gone after the Napoleonic wars and join the Renewal Pact after the loss of Malmo. Stubbornly, the Swedish kingdom has refused to, even liberalizing and instituting a new policy of Swedish neutrality they hope to keep for as long as they can.

  26. The nations of the Balkans are surrounded by enemies. The mostly Pro-French Turks, while on the verge of collapse, still pose a major threat, while the French control the Adriatic. Because of this, the two tiny states of Greece and Bulgaria have seen support from the Renewal Pact, while Romania has been a founding member of the Pact.

  27. Portugal was left in the dust by the British. The once empire is now just one of many French puppets, while the British refused to, under any circumstances, surrender Gibraltar, leading to the revoking of British monopolies near Pondicherry.

The Napoleonic Wars left the world in shock. Europe was bleeding, it’s farmlands barren and cities ravaged. Millions had been killed in the war that seemed to last forever. But something even worse seemed to set into the aristocracy of Europe: the balance had been broken. Napoleon, who negotiated a full continental embargo of the United Kingdom, forced King George III to negotiate a peace with Napoleon. The war was over.


The Great Powers:


The United States of America

After decisively defeating the British in the Battle of Moncton, the British were forced to cede the Maritimes to the United States, and during the treaty of Antwerp, forced to cede the Caribbean to France and the United States. The hero of the Battle of Moncton, Andrew Jackson, was elected in a landslide victory in the 1820 election. His doctrine of “Manifest Destiny” became extremely prevalent in the American ethos. Along with his belief of suffrage for all white men, he quickly would become a symbol of American politics. After holding office for 6 consecutive terms, he died in 1845 at the start of his seventh. Immediately, hardline “Jacksonians” began to attempt to pass legislation to ensure that the Democratic Party and Jacksonians would stay in power for as long as they sought fit, to truly fulfill Jackson’s “dream”. Finally, with the 13th Amendment allowing the government to “intervene in any illegal or manipulated elections to perpetuate the proper and necessary rights of the American people,” the United States of America finally turned into what it had tried so hard to avoid; an authoritarian democracy. Elections are heavily regulated, and all parties and candidates must have Jacksonian beliefs. During the Scramble for Africa, and the 1879 Conference of Paris, the United States was able to snatch parts of the Congo and Liberia, for it’s black resettlement scheme. The once proud republic seems to be ever drifting closer to an imperialist dictatorship.


United Kingdom of Great Britain

After their defeat in the Napoleonic Wars, Great Britain was bitter and disillusioned. Their cession of trading rights in India, the seizure of many British territories across the globe, and the peace treaty which required the United Kingdom acknowledge it’s loss outraged the population. Many people sought radical revanchist options, like the far-right Imperial Party, and the Socialists that gained with the publishing of Friedrich Engel’s The Communist Manifesto in 1851. The United Kingdom was split and on the brink of disaster. In 1863, a coup was declared against Her Majesty’s government. Members of the military and Imperial Party members stormed the Buckingham Palace. Britain was shot into a short, but extremely bloody civil war between Engelian supporters, Imperial nationalists, and the few centrists around the nation. Within a few months, it was clear who the victor of the war would be; the nationalist Imperial Party, with former Secretary of State of War Jonathan Peel at its head. In May of 1864, Engelian forces centered around Birmingham and centrist forces in Scotland and Wales surrendered to Imperial Forces. Queen Victoria was put in a ceremonial position while Jonathan Peel took a dictator-like role as Prime Minister of The British Empire. Communist leanings remain very strong in some parts of the country, but for now, the nationalistic Imperial Party reigns supreme from Downing Street. What stands in the future of the Imperials remains to be seen.


French Empire

With Austria and Russia agreeing to a full continental embargo of the United Kingdom and its colonies, and the destruction of much of the British fleet in the Battle of Jutland, Britain was forced to sue for peace with France. The treaty of Paris, in 1814, set the foundation for what was to become the realm of the First French Empire. Napoleon I, an internal minister just as much as a military man, began a series of internal reforms now known today as the “Spring Reforms”, referring to the “spring” of Europe during Napoleon's golden age. While internally strengthening the country, he solidified his vanguard position as executive of France. In 1845, with the death of Napoleon I, Napoleon II began to attempt to weaken the executive branch, after some advisors told him about the anti-bonapartist members that had begun to gain power in some important members of government. These liberalization efforts were stopped when some members of the military who benefitted from a centralized, top-down military administrative system “suggested” that Napoleon II roll back these decentralization reforms. Napoleon II, humiliated by the military, lived the rest of his life as a political recluse, with, for once, the Senate taking control of parts of the country. After Napoleon II’s reign, the Napoleons ruled with little difference until the crowning of Napoleon VI. A young and bright emperor, the liberal intelligentsia applaud his small reforms, some of the first since the Spring Reforms. But with the 1912 Paris market crash, along with the New York crash, the hegemony of the French Empire is increasingly looking tentative, fragile and temporary. The Mexican Revolution of 1896 exposed the weak underbelly of France, and hawks circle around the eternal Empire.


Russian Empire

Following the Russo-Imperial split of 1868, Russia has been left un-industrialized, outdated, and politically weak. Alexander II, after surviving an attempt at his life in 1881, continued supporting liberating reforms to the country. For a time, Russia looked like it would return to its imperial glory before the split, but this all came crashing down at the turn of the century, in June of 1900.

Following a border conflict between Russian forces and joint Sino-Japanese forces, full war broke out when Chinese forces encroached into Tannu-Tuva. A Russian declaration of war on China was followed by a Japanese declaration of war on Russia. Immediately, heavy fighting began in Western Manchuria and Korea, with lighter fighting near Tuva. Initially, land combat in the east seemed to be in Russian favor, but the Imperial French client state of the Duchy of Warsaw (commonly referred as just Poland) set out in an invasion of Russia with heavy French support. Quickly seizing Galicia-Lodomeria and Lithuania, The Russian sought a disastrous armistice with them that granted them Lithuania, and Napoleon allowed the Polish to “revive” a new Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth, with a republican system in which the French chose the next Prime Minister. Russia then attempted to forge a peace with the Japanese-Sino coalition. The nation was deeply angered when Alexander II surrendered Port Arthur, one of the few year-round port, Tannu-Tuva, and worst of all, Primorsky-Krai. Today, Russia stands as what some would even call a second-rate power, but Nicholas II, the new emperor, has promised the restoration of Russia as a superpower, with sweeping industrialization across the nation. A revanchist Russia sits at the helm of the Renewal Pact.


Republic of China

After the unsuccessful Taiping Rebellion the Qing received arms and industrial assistance as a bulwark against Japan, and later, Russia. It was able to establish itself as a power because of this, and was able to partially industrialize itself and build a sizeable, modern army. In 1889, Empress Dowager Cixi unsuccessfully attempted to roll back some of the recent administrative reforms f her country. This resulted in a minor uprising in Peking that began to spiral out of control, sparking uprisings and revolts in many cities along the northeastern coastal cities, including Nanking. What had started as a few civil unrests quickly turned into a revolution, lead by a few Republicans such as the young Sun Yat-Sen. They quickly seized the largest cities. In 1891, Cixi was put under house arrest and the newly formed Republic of China began establishing their government and diplomatic relations. Japan instantly saw an opportunity to create an East Asian hegemony and was able to create the Japanese-Sino coalition, quickly allowing China to become a world power, along with Japan.


Japanese Empire

After the Meiji restoration, the Japanese Empire was forced to industrialize in the span of about 30 years. To the world's surprise, they were able to do it with five years to spare. With the defeat of Russia and the advent of the Sino-Japanese coalition, Japan has achieved dominance over the South China Sea, the Sea of Japan, and partial dominance over the Pacific Ocean. A promising upstart, they have already shaken the world, and look to continue to do so. Along with the Republic of China, it is one of the few stable democracies left in the world.




Ok, this took a long time. I basically put out this entire day just to write this up and develop lore for basically every nation. This is my first map and anything like this, so please give constructive criticism. Thanks for reading! Also, questions are welcome, I have some idea of how every country is functioning.


Edit: Shoot, shoulda put Brazil as a notable neutral.
 
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I need help in Inkscape. I want to take the map with the heightened sea levels and overlap it with the 2gods map and merge them. Any way to do that?
 

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I need help in Inkscape. I want to take the map with the heightened sea levels and overlap it with the 2gods map and merge them. Any way to do that?

You could put the two basemaps in separate layers, and then lower the opacity for the one on top.
 
I have another map. This one is of a post nuclear apocalyptic Mid- Atlantic region where Delmarva becomes the dominant power of the region. This is because of the Dover air force base allowing Delmarva to use planes while others were unable to, and a relative lack of devastation due to a lack of really major cities (the largest would be Wilmington, which has a population of just over 100,000.) Because it's mostly surrounded by water Delmarva could also trade and export goods much more easily than other new countries formed after the collapse of the US. This is put on full display in Southern New Jersey, where the superior and better organized Delmarvan military and navy allows it to take Salem and Cumberland counties as well as Cape May in order to control trade through the Delaware Bay and a base in the Atlantic. Because it was better organized than the other post- apocalyptic "states" Delmarva has a fully fledged road network and more major towns and cities. They even have a functioning legislature. Delmarva is in many ways like the USA of the defunct and collapsed USA.
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Dark Gray- Chaos/Anarchy
Bright Green- Uninhabitable
Dark Blue- Newport
Gold- Virginia (rump government)
Dark Blue Green- Maryland (rump government)
Purple- Pennsylvania (rump government)
Orange- West Philadelphia Union
Yellow- North Philadelphia Republic
Light Blue Green- Atlantic City Federation
Green- Delmarva
 
I have another map. This one is of a post nuclear apocalyptic Mid- Atlantic region where Delmarva becomes the dominant power of the region. This is because of the Dover air force base allowing Delmarva to use planes while others were unable to, and a relative lack of devastation due to a lack of really major cities (the largest would be Wilmington, which has a population of just over 100,000.) Because it's mostly surrounded by water Delmarva could also trade and export goods much more easily than other new countries formed after the collapse of the US. This is put on full display in Southern New Jersey, where the superior and better organized Delmarvan military and navy allows it to take Salem and Cumberland counties as well as Cape May in order to control trade through the Delaware Bay and a base in the Atlantic. Because it was better organized than the other post- apocalyptic "states" Delmarva has a fully fledged road network and more major towns and cities. They even have a functioning legislature. Delmarva is in many ways like the USA of the defunct and collapsed USA.
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Dark Gray- Chaos/Anarchy
Bright Green- Uninhabitable
Dark Blue- Newport
Gold- Virginia (rump government)
Dark Blue Green- Maryland (rump government)
Purple- Pennsylvania (rump government)
Orange- West Philadelphia Union
Yellow- North Philadelphia Republic
Light Blue Green- Atlantic City Federation
Green- Delmarva
I like the idea, just three problems. Fallout will hit that region pretty badly, all state capitals are targets and finally Dover Air Force base is a major target
 
I like the idea, just three problems. Fallout will hit that region pretty badly, all state capitals are targets and finally Dover Air Force base is a major target
The scenario is that terrorists get the weapons. They’re less concerned with crippling the US militarily and more with killing as many people as possible. As for the fallout, the decent organization of Delmarva allows them to partially clean it up after the fact (many people in the Philly area actually flocked to Delmarva for that very reason)
 
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