Map Thread XVII

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Before the Religious-Dynastic Wars


France
The decision of Louis XII not to divorce his wife to marry Anne of Brittany was a turning point for France and the Holy Roman Empire.
Anne married into the growing Habsburg dynasty and centralized power in France began to be discredited.
The on-going war with Spain took a bad turn with the defeat of the army sent to Milan. France eventually renounced claims to Naples and Milan in the treaty of Granada.

When the Duchess of Bourbon died, although Francis I claimed the lands he held through her, Francis was unable to maintain his claim against a Duke backed by Habsburg allies.
By the time of the death of Francis II, France was again a patchwork of semi-independent lands, worse, Provence was starting to renew it's old links with Spain.

The Wars of Religion intensified the tendency away from centralization. Bourbon was split between the brothers, Louis [of Bourbon and Conde] and Antoine [of Bourbon and Navarre]. Louis was Protestant, Antoine, Catholic.

After nearly 30 years of fighting, Henry [ex-King of Navarre- lost to Spain in the intervening years] was King of Aquitaine whilst Charles XI ruled France [Charles X's brief reign was spent entirely imprisoned].

Bourbon dynasties now ruled both states.

Spain & Burgundy
After the victory against France in Italy, Spanish forces, under Cordoba, were used to carry the Reconquista into North Africa. Charles I became its first sole Habsburg monarch and completed the union of Castile with Aragon and Naples.

The Netherlands revolt against Habsburg rule was more effective than if Burgundy had been united with Spain. Maurice's new style army was very successful.

In 1580 Rudolph of Habsburg became Duke of Burgundy, his acceptance of freedom of worship made peace possible [but estranged him from his family]. Peace was signed, loosely based upon the lands of the Union of Utrecht, in 1585.

Austria & Bohemia
Bohemia and Hungary had been united under the weak rule of Ladislas in 1490.
His son, Louis II, was also weak and died in battle with the Ottomans [Mohacs] in 1526. The following 80 years were a time of war, civil war and invasions that devastated Hungary.

Not wanting to be dominated and ruled by Austria, Bohemia elected Rudolph of Habsburg as it's King. Rudolph was a believer in freedom of worship; this was opposed by his brother Matthias, a staunch Catholic.
After a short conflict Matthias was ejected but it set the stage for future conflicts in the H.R.E.

Bohemia allowed Adolph to follow his father as King in 1612.

The H.R.E.
The Renaissance had brought religious conflicts into the mix of Empire politics.

Religion was a powerful polarizer of opinion, neither side allowing for good or trustworthiness in the other. Rudolph II, Duke of Burgundy and King of Bohemia had, through his conciliation, kept peace in the Empire but he died in 1612.
Matthias was elected Emperor by the Catholic factions of the Empire whilst Adolph of Burgundy, son of Rudolph II, was elected by the Protestant factions.

Sweden & Denmark, Novgorod & Muscovy
Denmark was the only northern state to have any real interaction with the Empire, it had reached the limits of it's potential to the north and started to be drawn in to Empire politics with the acquisition of Holstein.

Sweden, Novgorod & Muscovy spent their strength in intermittent squabbles over trading rights in the north, none able to gain an advantage and barred from eastward expansion by the, still vibrant, Mongol Horde.

Ottoman Empire
The Ottoman Empire was in decline yet still controlled lands within 100 miles of Vienna. It's rule stretched over European, Asian and African provinces.

Whilst European eyes saw Vienna as the bastion against Islamic advance, the Ottoman Empire can also be seen as the blockage stopping growing European strength moving into the Middle East.
The Ottoman Empire was in decline only compared to it's European neighbours, it compared much more favourably with it's eastern neighbours and had used this to it's advantage.

Poland & The Slavic States
Poland had finally abandoned it's strange "rotational" style where the states gave notional fealty to the "Capital Province" which was usually ruled by the eldest or most powerful family member. The result was small independent states that still warred with each other.

The Slavic [mostly Rus] States were in confusion as some did but most did not follow suit, leaving the Lith state to gain in strength, kept in check only by wars of succession.

The Situation in Europe in 1611
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Oh my, what happened to Poland and Lithuania?
Although the state is usually shown as a unified one, Poland operated the "Seniority" system. When one ruler died, the next in seiority inherited his lands and gave up HIOS lands to the one below him in seniority. The system was also used by the Rus for a long while.
I have made these states more independent by having the system abandoned.
Lithuania suffered from a far more powerful Teutonic and Livonian Order, they did not convert to Protestantism and remain powerful.
Lithuania is starting to make a name for itself and it's fighting prowess however.
 
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How a hypothetical Romagna region of Italy might look like, if Romagna split from Emilia and annexed those municipalities in Marche and Tuscany that have more in common with Ravenna than either Ancona or Florence: the Province of Rimini would annex Tavullia, a town mainly known for being the hometown of Moto GP legend Valentino Rossi and a motorcycle mecca in the making, and completely surround San Marino; Cesena and Forlì would split; Imola would secede from the Province of Bologna and gain a few municipalities formerly under the Province of Ravenna to avoid HRE-like border gore.
 
Before the Religious-Dynastic Wars

The Situation in Europe in 1611
I take it the Spanish King took Andorra when they snagged the claims to Navarre? I am half surprised they didn't annex it outright, but I suppose they didn't want to bother with being seen to take land from the CoPrinces of Andorra. Let's see... the Bishop of Urgell and the Cont of Foix, though the French king tried snagging it for himself. I suppose that if the titular role was given back to the Count, perhaps in a dowry, then it would tie the Spanish to Provence even further. Actually, what does each color in France signify? I might be mistaking in thinking Fiox and Provence are together because of the colors.

Do the Bohemians claim the Hungarian crown through their ownership of what was once the majority of Royal Hungary? What is the religions composition of Tunisia here? Do the Spanish back up the Genoans and Knights of St. John in the Aegean? Is Venice still the main trader of spices with the Ottomans, or have the Portuguese manages to undercut them be going around Africa? Not that those things really relate... ahhh, and the thing I was first coming to ask. What is the relationship of the English with the Dutch, Spanish, etc. I am surprised they didn't invade, though I suppose they might have instead used the time to snag the Scots and independent Irish. Does this map show the situation of autonomous areas for the British, or just the three main kingdoms?
 
Here's a small tribute to the simpsons!

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Hello lads, here is my ideal world/ASB timeline world map. I've made it to a point where I'm searching all over the map for things to work on and it's gotten boring, so I guess it's fairly complete. Most of Europe is monarchist, albeit constitutional ones with a large amount of power dedicated to the executive of the country. The timeline, being ASB, has greatly expanded leaders' abilities to both get elected and rule as an individual, so there is less of a need for large parliaments to handle administration. The United States retains it's government mostly, the only (rather large) difference being the lack of political parties, as George Washington wished. There is a large confederation to the west of them that is very, very loosely ruled, with multiple autonomous states with the purpose of native reservations, corn plantations, and religious minorities. New Albion, which covers the western coast, is made up of a primarily Hapa population, with over 70% of the population having large roots both in East Asia and Europe. Down in Africa, there are some large swathes of independent tribal kingdoms reminiscent of the 19th century, as European colonialism in Africa was far more toned-down and mostly limited to a few small areas, like South Africa and Senegal. The world's ASBness caused a huge new wave of occultism and paganist practices, with huge numbers of people adhering to fascinating pagan-Abrahamic syncretic religions, and some nations completely reverting to their old religions(most notably being Greece and Egypt). East Asia is arguably divided into the two spheres of influence in Japan and China. France has regained some of it's North American colonies, cuz why not? India still retains a few of the Princely kingdoms, and Buddhism and Hinduism have grown much closer, with the two introducing each other's practices into the other. Taoism is on a huge rise in China and East Asia as a whole, mostly as a consequence of the rise of magic in the world. The universe is still very bare-bones and not fully developed, but there are some other maps related to this that will come once I've got the notes and stuff done. As always, questions are welcome, and if there's stuff to point out that I forgot or something (because that's bound to happen) that is also welcome as well.

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that is one HELL of a timeline and a map
 
XPOST from the MOTF:

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Facing the threat of rebellion from several Southern colonies in British North America, in 1843 Parliament dissolved the larger dominion and devolved power to the individual colonies, allowing the passage of the 1845 Slavery Abolition Act, with provision for several Southern realms. Although legislatively independent since the 1926 Commonwealth Statute, Virginia and the other realms of British North America remain a part of the British Imperial Commonwealth, have representation in the British Parliament, and retain William IV as head of state.
 
So, after Browsing Reddit for a bit this morning, I found this amazing post on r/mapporn that showed the Mediterranean inside the Continental US. I loved the idea, so I decided to whip up a Worlda version. Now, the borders are a little wonky, due to the projection switching using the NASA G.Projecter and switching from map to map, but I think It turned out.

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If Anyone wants to make anything out of these, go for it. I personally am considering making a map or two set when this happens in either Nowadays or as Columbas sets his sails.

also: here are Zoomed in versions of both America and Europe :
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Cheers!
 
So, after Browsing Reddit for a bit this morning, I found this amazing post on r/mapporn that showed the Mediterranean inside the Continental US. I loved the idea, so I decided to whip up a Worlda version. Now, the borders are a little wonky, due to the projection switching using the NASA G.Projecter and switching from map to map, but I think It turned out.

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If Anyone wants to make anything out of these, go for it. I personally am considering making a map or two set when this happens in either Nowadays or as Columbas sets his sails.

also: here are Zoomed in versions of both America and Europe :
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Cheers!

I really want to figure out elevations and river systems but I wouldn't know where to start.
 
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