Map Thread XVII

Discussion in 'Alternate History Maps and Graphics' started by Upvoteanthology, Sep 20, 2017.

  1. Remitonov Yousoro~! :3

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    "She's but a mere child, trying to play House with the world. One day, though, she will grow up, and face up to reality. My reality."

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    You are like a baby. Watch this.

    ...Actually, you're not wrong that in that premise, the "Brotherhood" actually is run by an impatient and slightly irritated Kane.
     
  3. Max Sinister Retired Myriad Club Member

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    OK, then Nordstern.
     
  4. Historyman 14 Well-Known Member

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    I am not surprise, given how Kane is more, or less impossible to kill, or put down for too long. What are Kane plans besides trying to get tiberium down to Earth?

    How was the USA between the Third Great War and the start of the Mental Omega War? Did the Red Army abandoned North America when it started?

    If the USA had won the Third Great War? Or if the USSR and Allies had kill Libra?
     
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    From the campaign missions available so far, the US was successfully defeated in the Third Great War and was reorganized into the United Socialist States of America, with the Soviet General in charge (though it didn't stop American rebels and remnants of the US military fighting on). By the Mental Omega War, though, Yuri's attempt to subvert the USSA threw the whole continent into chaos, with the Latin Confederation trying to secure what little they could control while the Soviet General was evacuated.

    I'll leave Kane's true plans for you to decide. ;)
     
  6. Historyman 14 Well-Known Member

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    So the Red Army did just left North America helpless. Why to go 'Commander.'
     
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    According to the MO campaign, the need to stop Yuri and avenge the fall of Moscow (and Premier Romanov's death) overrode the need to really hang on to North America. Especially with the USSR falling back to Siberia.

    As for what'd happen if the Allies had won, it'd be similar to canon RA2...until Yuri reveals himself. Though how the Mental Omega War would turn out is anyone's guess.
     
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  8. et37 SubMod Entrepreneur

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    As a fan of Mental Omega and Red Alert 2 in general, I never expected to see said mod even mentioned here.
     
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    Figures. All that hard work and it goes up in smoke under two years.

    I can kind of see it with the East Coast-Canada, Latin America, and Northen Europe still under Allied control (And then some.) while the USSR rump under the control of Kane and becoming a religious nuthouse. (And getting his tiberium down to Earth.) Or even was totally successful in bringing down Yuri and Libra at the same time. Or at least destroyed Mental Omega device before it was finished.
     
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    Definitely. Whichever way, something like the Foehn Revolt would not have emerged in an Allied victory.
     
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  11. et37 SubMod Entrepreneur

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    Also I take it that “a pragmatic general said to have been the late Romanov's closest friend” is the player?
     
  12. Historyman 14 Well-Known Member

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    Yuriko could have taking the Foehn Revolt's place, or even a far stronger 'Empire of the Rising Sun' that ate the weaken Soviets. (Still reeling from its defeat in the Third Great War, and the Mental Omega War being its death blow.) while Kane large parts of Africa, South America, and Australia.

    If you can tell, I never like Soviet Victories.
     
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    Yep. That's the Soviet player character in MO. Let's just say he got rather lucky. Then again, with much of the old Politburo wiped out and/or reduced to mind-controlled drones, it's not much of a contest.

    You're not wrong that the "Empire" would have taken the Foehn's place much more fully. And don't worry, the coming map isn't a Soviet wank...ish.
     
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    the 'help' is with making all these maps

    as for the questions presented

    the french do in fact use the french republican calendar for... some reason

    northern italy is a federal republic as is venice (it'd be wrong to make venice a monarchy, really), and southern italy is designated as the kingdom of naples
     
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    Having posted this earlier on DA, guess it won't hurt putting it here too. Keep in mind that this isn't a prequel to the Mental Omega map, but rather a more direct adaptation of the Command and Conquer: Red Alert 2 Yuri's Revenge mod Red Resurrection. Compared to MO, though, the mod is something of an "enhanced edition" of the main game if anything else.

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    Red Alert 2: Red Resurrection

    In 1946, Albert Einstein traveled back in time to erase Adolf Hitler from history, with far-reaching consequences which only really come into play after his death.

    In 1953, an alternate World War 2 drew to a close, resulting in the defeat of the Soviet Union and Stalin's death. The victorious Allied Nations, through the United States, picked Alexander Romanov, a distant relative of the late Tsar Nicholas II to be a puppet leader in the hopes of winning over and subduing the defeated USSR. This proved to be a grave mistake, as behind Romanov's charisma was a committed Communist and a seething anger at the Allies' hubris. In the years that followed, he appointed a mysterious man known as Yuri, a psychic who had been Stalin's most astute prodige, to be his chief advisor, though even in the figure's sudden disappearance the Premier proved to be more than competent. As relations with the Free World deteriorated, the Soviets rearmed themselves right under Allied noses, experimented on new technologies and once more spread the Socialist message to lands as far afield as China and South America.

    It's the year 1972. Nearly 20 years on from the War, much has happened that would both shock and astound. Just in time for the long-standing "Cold War" to be on the brink of going hot.

    The reconstituted Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (more often known as either the Soviet Union or just Soviet Russia) once more stands mighty as a global superpower. As head of the World Socialist Alliance, the Soviets remain staunchly committed to Communist ideals, albeit one that's in time become more of a melange of Marxist-Leninist, Russian nationalist and Pan-Slavic ideas. As a consequence of Premier Romanov's rearmament plans (at first conducted in hidden facilities deep in Siberia and the Urals, away from prying Allied eyes), the Soviet Armed Forces wield considerable influence; this in turn has allowed Russian generals leverage to revamp their military doctrine, resulting in a peculiar focus on mass-produced yet durable conventional forces, thermobaric and seismic weapons and even enhanced cybernetics (such as the "upgraded" veteran Volkov). In addition to these and a rebuilt nuclear arsenal, however, there's the PsiCorps. Even without the guidance of its progenitor, Yuri, this "science cult" of psychics has proven to be loyal to the Soviet cause and in conjunction with the feared KGB have been responsible for crippling many Allied efforts to infiltrate the USSR since the '60s. Meaning that outside official propaganda and the Premier's often flamboyant speeches, few really know what's going on within their borders, while their efforts to spread and support Communism abroad have become too flagrant to ignore.

    Meanwhile, the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia reigns supreme in the Balkans as a major power in its own right. The result of a Serbian Communist coup led by Josip Broz Tito (a revolutionary from the War) in 1955 against the inept democractic government, it has since tried hard to overcome its troubled past, which for the most part has been a resounding "success." But even with Soviet cooperation, the South Slavic peoples comprising the SFR realized that their antiquated arsenal would make them easy prey to their European neighbors, prompting them to invest heavily on military R&D and more specifically the "unfulfilled potential" of Serbia's favorite son: Nikola Tesla. Their seeming flights of fancy, however, bore fruit, which they've been more than happy to share with the USSR. Indeed, on top of special Yugoslav divisions fielding advanced Tesla-based and experimental energy weapons, it's not without reason that the Soviets have made even more strides in technological development rivaling the Allies. Or that if propaganda footage of Yugoslav cosmonauts are accurate, their claims of being able to blast people from space are not entirely hollow.

    Across the Atlantic lies the deceptively ramshackle Confederation of the Americas, which traces its origins to a pact by several Latin American Communist groups (which has since included Cuban Communists, Shining Path Socialists, Bolivarians and Sandinistas) to oppose Western and more specifially, US imperialism. Since 1957, the Confederation had brought several countries in South and Central America under its banner; toppling the "banana republics" and various corporate proxies, they've upended the balance of power virtually overnight to the point of being close to America's doorstep. Compared to other prominent members of the World Socialist Alliance, it remains the least developed and seemingly the most unstable. Yet despite constant infighting among the ruling cliques, there's a reason why the USSR considers these "Confederados" such vital allies. Through skilled guerilla tactics, ingenuity (especially in their helicopters and repurposed surplus planes), arms deals and sheer grit, they've been to hold back the American juggernaut and whatever mercenaries the CIA has thrown their way.

    Then there's the Libyan Socialist Republic, arguably the most troublesome member of the Communist bloc. Having gained independence after the War (due to a bankrupt Italy being forced to abandon its colonies), Libya had originally been under the grip of American companies interested in its oil fields before a 1963 revolution secretly supported by Premier Romanov brought down the puppet monarchy in favor of Islamic Socialism. It quickly became apparent, though, that the ruling "Jamahiriya" regime cared little for the absurd costs paid for dragging the country into the future, going so far as to sow anarchic discord in neighboring lands and even promote slave labor (while "freeing" those willing to die for the cause) he while loyalists reaped the rewards. But as much as the Soviets would rather look the other way, Libyans' obsession with nuclear technology and radioactive waste combined with a shared disdain for the Allies proved to be far more alluring. Thus in spite of a sordid reputation, few would question the utter zeal of its people as personified by Labia, "Heroine of the Revolution."

    As potent as the Soviets and their fellow Communists are, however, the Allied Nations are by no means left behind. Though seemingly more fratitious than when the War ended, the Allies remain committed to holding the Reds in check.

    Among the nations of the Free World, the United States of America is one of the most powerful, and is so on purpose. As though to make up for their late entry into the War and seemingly minimal involvement in it, the Americans enacted a series of special loans and projects (often called "Ike Plans") that, while intended to help Allied countries also opened new opportunities to enrich themselves. Their meteoric rise and the fact they "won" the War unscathed has garnered envy and spite from more than a few across the world, the tendency of propping up puppets friendly to their interests most infamously backfiring in the form of the Confederation. Nonetheless, Americans at large, especially under President Dugan's administration, are as genuine with their commitment to democracy as they are to the free market. It's also not without reason that the men and women of the US Military are among the most well-funded and formidable soldiers on Earth, despite their seeming lack of experience; much like American capitalism, they maintain a presence across the world through various bases. And when lasers, Abrams tanks and good old firepower don't do the trick, there are mercenaries and private military companies willing to get the job done for the highest bidder, which so happens to be Uncle Sam.

    Many of the "original" Allies on the Continent, however, were in spite of victory, left bankrupt and forced to retreat from the world. Yet from the ashes, a new resolve arose to never again face such indignity. The result is the European Federation, originally established by France, Germany and Italy in 1956 to counter both Communism and their erstwhile American peers. Unifying the most developed of Europe's nations (on top of a network of "observer" states and associates), the EF remains committed to its participatory democracy and enlightened values as a power in its own right. In practice, though, the European system owes as much to Mussolini as to Kalergi, if elitist posturing on European culture, extreme vetting on who to welcome into the union and a militant obsession with "civilized" supremacy at all costs suggest anything. Never mind how their "dedication to the exploration of science" also involves mostly covert experiments derived from Einstein's research (from Prism tanks to vortex weapons), which their largely Franco-German military has been more than happy to take part in.

    Across the Channel though, the United Kingdom chose to make its finest hour everlasting. The War nearly brought the Isles to the brink, but unlike the Continent came out more intact and in a stronger position to maintain the British Empire. The UK was also among those who stood against the sudden wave of decolonization following the European retreat, seeing the demands for independence it inspired in the colonies as a threat. Thus, an audacious plan was enacted throughout the 1950s to preserve imperial glory, even if it meant going so far as to shoot protestors and crush any opposition. For the price paid in blood, the British earned nothing but scorn and condemnation especially from the European Federation. Yet years on, few would doubt how prosperous the reformed Commonwealth realms have become or how efforts to reconcile with the old colonies have borne tremendous fruit. Let alone the might of their highly experienced and versatile regiments (including the feared SAS), or the increasingly advanced technology employed in defense of Her Majesty's vast dominions. The latter having much to do with a reinvigorated bond with Japan.

    Indeed, the Empire of Japan could be said to be a peculiarity as the "newest" member of the Allies. The success of "Taisho Democracy" over a militarist takeover in the 1930s did little to stop the island nation's designs for the Republic of China, which led to a "Pacific conflict" with the US (more of a series of stalemates and proxy battles) that ended as both found a common threat in Communism; indeed they were able to finish their Chinese campaign by 1950, in time to stop an attempted Soviet invasion amidst the War. Since then, the Japanese have grown more benevolent and expanded their East Asian League to encompass many former European colonies, all while benefiting from the immense wealth and resources at their disposal. The years of peace have also seen them not only rekindle old Anglo-Japanese ties. But also, in spite of their paradoxical traditionalism and devotion to their Emperor, make tremendous leaps in technology rivaling the EF (from modernized shinobi to mechanized power suits and weather manipulation) that have allowed Japan to hold back the Red tide as a proper great power.

    As stable, if tenuous as the current state of the world may be, though, there are signs that everything may soon unravel. European researchers are rumored to have presented some curious finding to their superiors on how Einstein's first Chronosphere "test" might not be the only case of tampering with time. While evidence is still being gathered, some theorize that it may explain why the mysterious Yuri disappeared or even why the Japanese and British have been able to successfully hold their own far more than what seemed possible. Much of the attention among the Allied Nations' leaders, however has been on the unusual activity coming from the Communist bloc. While intel remains limited, reports have come in of increased buildup along the Iron Curtain and across the fringes of the Free World. There have also been more unconfirmed sightings of suspected KGB and PsiCorps operatives, with fears that the Allies' nuclear deterrent may be at risk of being compromised.

    For President Dugan in particular, more worrisome are the Soviet troop movements, too big to be military exercises and seemingly aimed straight for the US. He's expected shortly to make a direct call to Premier Romanov, who not too long ago had made much publicized statements about peace and keeping the world in order. While some still think that it's some elaborate propaganda move, American and Allied commanders are expecting the worst. Already, several projects are being hastened to completion and for immediate deployment, which may hold back this potential Red Resurrection and perhaps secure a victory in any World War 3 scenario.

    Hopefully it never comes to that.

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  16. Alienspacebats Dēmokratía is people's will

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    Yeah, the Purple Rebellion in Germany are Neo-Black Front if any you guys were wondering
     
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    How unique.

    I feel India should be independent. (Nor do I like British Empires or Commonwealths.)

    What this about other people messing with time. (Yuri disappeared and the UK able to hold onto its Empire, and Japan building itself its own Empire nicely.)

    So what IS life inside the USSR?
     
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    One thing I never liked about Red Alert 2 was how the Allies were mostly an American production, in contrast to the first game where it was obviously a group effort, down to you being briefed primarily by a German and a Greek.
     
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    Whereas in Red Alert 3, the Allies were led by the most British person they could find, and the US president was a bellicose nutbar.
     
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    The United Provinces of Eastern Australia

    Following the Great Lakes war, British and Scottish settlers in the United States became unwelcome. While some would remain in the nation despite hatred, many fled to the larger British North America, later named Vesperia. Those who had planned on settling in the United States were left with two options; settle in America and live with the discrimination or settle in a different anglicized nation. Many chose Vesperia due to its lush prairies and vast land, but the Australian colonies were also high in demand.

    By the late 1850's the population of the Australian colonies were almost double what they were in OTL. In the 60's Queensland was divided into three divisions - Flinders Land in the north, Leicharts Land in the center and Cooks Land in the south. The Independence of the Kingdom of Vesperia heightened already existing cries for self governance, leading to many works being written describing how an Independent Australia would benefit the British Empire as a whole. Come 1882, and the idea of a self governing Australia had become popular even in the British Parliament.

    However, questions were raised over what such a commonwealth would look like. Many thought it should include New Zealand and some suggested Figi join the union. Concepts were even made for a 'South Pacific Federation', consisting of a united Austronesia. At the End of the day, the Colonies of Australia, Figi, New Zealand and Van Diemans Land were issued referendums as whether to join the Self Governing Australia or remain within the British Empire as separate colonies.

    The Colonies that voted Yes would go on to form the seven United Provinces of Eastern Australia in 1884. The Colonies of Norfolk Island and New Guinea were transferred to Eastern Australia a decade later.