Map Thread XVII

Discussion in 'Alternate History Maps and Graphics' started by Upvoteanthology, Sep 20, 2017.

  1. Osk Eu set di la Oskaña

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    The world of Forgotten No More as of 1924:

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    And political systems:

    1924 - Government Types.png
     
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  2. Achaemenid Rome Iron Age City-State

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    How did Arizona become a large tribal democracy? Were Eastern tribes resettled into the Navajo Nation?
     
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  3. Osk Eu set di la Oskaña

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    Nope, the region became independent in the early 19th Century with Louisianan protection, with the native population in the region given control over it. Strict immigration into the state was enforced and a healthy relationship with Louisiana has kept it (mostly) safe. President Custer threatened to invade them near the end of the 19th Century before getting involved with the Great War and abandoning those threats.
     
  4. Achaemenid Rome Iron Age City-State

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    Seems unlikely unless one tribe conquered the others, or one tribe received a bunch of native refugees that were coerced to assimilate into the patron tribe.

    President Custer? That Custer?
     
  5. Osk Eu set di la Oskaña

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    I'm not too familiar with the tribes relationships with each other in the early 19th Century, but I take it you don't think they'd unite in so much as to maintain a state without European influence?

    And yup, that Custer
     
  6. Achaemenid Rome Iron Age City-State

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    The Native tribes already raided and fought wars with each other before Europeans/whites showed up, so it would be very difficult for a de novo native republic to come into existence eliminating the divisions between tribes, without it being the result of one tribe conquering others. If you look up most of the American-Indian Wars, usually there was at least one native tribe allying with the US federal government against the tribe or tribes being attacked, and that was because the US was able to exploit existing divisions.
     
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  7. metalinvader665 Well-Known Member

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    Basically this. Concerning Arizona, you had the fact the Navajo and Apache weren't exactly friends.
     
  8. Valdore Javorsky Conservative Socialist-Essentialist Monarchist

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    Nope. With the exception of Macau, the areas of Hongkong, Tsingtau and Ryojun still belong to their respective owners. It's not that it bothers anyone since the four participants are in an alliance anyways.
    [1] Since neither Qing nor the heavenly kingdom survive the civil war, the black-gold war was won by the dragon faction (Chinese Imperial Federation).
    [2] Since China split into hundreds of different houses and cliques which are bond by only the "main house", regionalism is quite strong. During the times where it was possible to easily destroy the federation (until 1930s), several duchies actually practiced this possibility which you can see in 1931 as Tibet and all the East Turkestan Duchies left and attacked. Since then the main house has surpressed autonomy which you can see on the 1939 map in Turkestan and Tibet, and in 1972 in the Han areas.
    I'm also thinking about the position of shandong in China as I originally planned to let it be under german protectorate until the 40s/50s.
    No, not yet. That's partially because I'm not sure if my ideas are good. Currently, America is a similar mess as China (quite Balkanized) but I was thinking about a "united provinces" system similarity to how the OTL Russian federation works.
    South America looks as dull as always which is something I want to change as well since it's got to be different.
     
  9. Clandango Well-Known Member

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    Marvelous, marvelous. And while the area given to Italian Libya IOTL might not have been given to them in this timeline, it makes sense for it to be separate from the rest. I can\t even imagine what the borders of the northern Sudanese areas would be like if they had to dial with an extra triangle of land. And oddly enough, this map gives Austrian land to Bosnia. Around Ragusa, where they managed to gain the areas that went to Montenegro ITOL after WWII. I think it is a fun little thing, but figured I would bring it up incase it was a coloring mistake. If not, or it was and you decide to keep it, I imagine you can have some fun with the two sections of Bosnia/Herzegovina coast vieing for influence, having some Italians dominating the south, or having Montengro be very unhappy about not getting the land and needing to go through Bosnia to get a good amount of trade done. I do wonder who controls Bosnia. I am assuming Serbs, but the Austrians and Hungarians, along with the Croatian portions of both countries, would probably push for some Catholic leadership that was acceptable for all. Ahhh, the smallest of pixels opens up so many opportunities. Ahh, and to be clear the Austrian outlines for Hungary, Galicia, and Bosnia means that the areas left the Austrians without their full consent, correct? If so, I can sense a detente between the Serbs and Austrians, should Vienna decide that Derbia getting independent, annexing Bosnia (and various parts of Banat, Smyrna, and Slavonia), as well as possibly uniting with Herzegovina (or that goes to Montenegro). And now I am thinking some maps people made on the countering territorial claims in the Balkans of an Alt-Hist world. I feel that this is the sort of world in which people would find a wealth of opportunities to make just such thing.
     
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  10. Clandango Well-Known Member

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    Is this IOTL? If so, is seems as though Belgium needs a bit of work on the border with France. It has one division extra and, while IOTL the Germans had a department of Belgium and Northern France, that included not just French Flanders but Calais as well. I also think you should consider different greys to use in Western Europe. Using the color of the Slovaks should do for Denmark, to show that while occupied they collaborated to a great degree. Not with arms so much as producing food and not making a racket. What is the color for what remained of French North Africa signifying? I can't imagine it to be Vichy, due to the European areas having the blue of France, as well as the Italians being in Tunisia. By that same token, I can't see the Allies of Free French having grey to represent themselves. Also, Tangiers should be should separate from Spanish Morocco. The Spanish occupied it, but made no claims to officially annex it, and left it later on. Perhaps just as well they occupied it, as otherwise I imagine the Germans would have tried to, if the British of French didn't get there first.
     
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  11. Bob Hope rarely online

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    Got this in the post

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    With thanks for inspiration to @ToixStory and to all others whose work I have adjusted to fit.
     
  12. Analytical Engine Monarchist Collectivist Federalist

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  13. XO Mapping Actually a furry

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    Beautiful, bloody beautiful.
    I was kind of expecting to see OTL at the end :p
     
  14. DracoLazarus Dragon King, Emperor of the Sky Isles, etc...

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    The 2012 one looks OTL.
     
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  15. XO Mapping Actually a furry

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    So it is.
    well that's a bit embarassing for me...
     
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  16. Remitonov Maki is Rabu Raibu. :3

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    So basically, is this a company that takes over alien worlds and terraforms them to match a certain time period or alternate history of Earth? Nice! :3
     
  17. merkmuds Transhumanist

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    This is fantastic work. This seems like a great premise for a video game.
     
  18. XO Mapping Actually a furry

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    Perhaps the game would be called... Europa Multiversalis? :p
     
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  19. GauchoBadger OPEN THE TCHECA

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    I saw one roman-centric world with inspiration from a B_Munro map.
     
  20. Venusian Si Well-Known Member

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    Beautiful job. A couple of questions though.

    What does it mean when the Ad says "Near-Human" and what exactly does it mean when one species is HO.99 vs HO.90?

    And what's the backstory that leads the "Homeline" trying to conquer all of these different worlds and install its citizens as kings of countless countries?