That Antarctica thou. And if history somehow becomes like WW2, then Sealion and Britain getting people to France will be much easier because of Über-Cornwall.Oh hey. I heard you like base maps...
https://ashtagon.deviantart.com/art/Oronce-Fine-1531-K7a-base-map-734496258
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I think the one on the left is India and the one on the right is Southeast Asia.
Philippe le Bel
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No doubt the first actual settlement on the wildside will be named after the discoverer.
damein fisher
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West Indies Federation
Following the Great War, the Islands of Bermuda, The Bahamas and Trinidad were ceded to the United States. The Caribbean had become an entirely US influenced area barring the last of the British Colonies in the area. The United Kingdom was largely focusing on rebuilding and had little time to care for these colonies which had lost their productivity long ago. To protect themselves against the American Giant, the colonies united to form a new Dominion within the British Empire; the West Indies Federation [sometimes shortened to West India].
Similar to how the Dominion of Vesperia was centered around the Province of Canada, the West Indies Federation was designed to be centered around Jamaica. Plans for a united British Caribbean dominion had been around since the late 1800's with the British Victory in the Third Anglo-American War and establishment of the May Confederacy. In these early ideas, British Honduras and British Guyana were to remain a colony of the British Empire and hold observer status within the federation, however, the annexation of British Honduras and Territorial lose of British Guyana in the Great War encouraged the United Kingdom to include it within the Federation.
Following the Great War, the Islands of Bermuda, The Bahamas and Trinidad were ceded to the United States. The Caribbean had become an entirely US influenced area barring the last of the British Colonies in the area. The United Kingdom was largely focusing on rebuilding and had little time to care for these colonies which had lost their productivity long ago. To protect themselves against the American Giant, the colonies united to form a new Dominion within the British Empire; the West Indies Federation [sometimes shortened to West India].
Similar to how the Dominion of Vesperia was centered around the Province of Canada, the West Indies Federation was designed to be centered around Jamaica. Plans for a united British Caribbean dominion had been around since the late 1800's with the British Victory in the Third Anglo-American War and establishment of the May Confederacy. In these early ideas, British Honduras and British Guyana were to remain a colony of the British Empire and hold observer status within the federation, however, the annexation of British Honduras and Territorial lose of British Guyana in the Great War encouraged the United Kingdom to include it within the Federation.
Zagan
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Either genocide or the usual very effective de-nationalization practiced for centuries instead of decades.
DESTINY MADE MANIFEST; or, The STATES and TERRITORIES of the UNION as they stand in the PRESENT DAY, at the HEIGHT of the EMPIRE of LIBERTY
1: Columbia
2: Prairie
3: Great Lakes
4: Quebec
5: Atlantica
6: Cascadia
7: Alta California
8: California
9: Baja California
10: Idaho
11: Deseret
12: Arizona
13: Great Plains
14: Colorado
15: Nebraska
16: Canada
17: West Florida
18: Thule
19: Cuba
20: Haiti
21: Columbus
22: Porto Rico
23: Ryukyu
24: Formosa
25: Polynesia
26: Liberia
27: Albania
A: Yukon Territory
B: Republic of Nunavut
C: Northwest Territories
D: Markland Territories
E: Dakota
F: New Mexico
G: Sequoyah
H: The Commonwealth of Bermuda
I: Republic of Panama
J: Panama Canal Zone
K: The Commonwealth of the Phillipines
L: The Mariana Territories
M: The Commonwealth of Micronesia
N: The Kiribati Territories
O: The Magellan Territories
P: The Commonwealth of Fiji
Q: The Commonwealth of Samoa
R: The Azore Territories
1: Columbia
2: Prairie
3: Great Lakes
4: Quebec
5: Atlantica
6: Cascadia
7: Alta California
8: California
9: Baja California
10: Idaho
11: Deseret
12: Arizona
13: Great Plains
14: Colorado
15: Nebraska
16: Canada
17: West Florida
18: Thule
19: Cuba
20: Haiti
21: Columbus
22: Porto Rico
23: Ryukyu
24: Formosa
25: Polynesia
26: Liberia
27: Albania
A: Yukon Territory
B: Republic of Nunavut
C: Northwest Territories
D: Markland Territories
E: Dakota
F: New Mexico
G: Sequoyah
H: The Commonwealth of Bermuda
I: Republic of Panama
J: Panama Canal Zone
K: The Commonwealth of the Phillipines
L: The Mariana Territories
M: The Commonwealth of Micronesia
N: The Kiribati Territories
O: The Magellan Territories
P: The Commonwealth of Fiji
Q: The Commonwealth of Samoa
R: The Azore Territories
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Kaiphranos
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Feel free to imagine whichever one you like, as long as you don't mind it being replaced by a major government facility.
The STATES and TERRITORIES of the UNION as they stand in the PRESENT DAY, at the HEIGHT of the EMPIRE of LIBERY
1: Columbia
2: Prairie
3: Great Lakes
4: Quebec
5: Atlantica
6: Cascadia
7: Alta California
8: California
9: Baja California
10: Idaho
11: Deseret
12: Arizona
13: Great Plains
14: Colorado
15: Nebraska
16: Canada
17: West Florida
18: Thule
19: Cuba
20: Haiti
21: Columbus
22: Porto Rico
23: Ryukyu
24: Formosa
25: Polynesia
26: Liberia
27: Albania
A: Yukon Territory
B: Republic of Nunavut
C: Northwest Territories
D: Markland Territories
E: Dakota
F: New Mexico
G: Sequoyah
H: The Commonwealth of Bermuda
I: Republic of Panama
J: Panama Canal Zone
K: The Commonwealth of the Phillipines
L: The Mariana Territories
M: The Commonwealth of Micronesia
N: The Kiribati Territories
O: The Magellan Territories
P: The Commonwealth of Fiji
Q: The Commonwealth of Samoa
R: The Azore Territories
This is amazing
"The trail to the World of the Sky is not limited to the Ongwe-honwe [The Iroquois people], but the white men of the Thirteen Fires have much to learn before they may join Renadagaius [George Washington]. Our tribes are united though our customs are necessarily different. We are all bound to this our Mother, and as brothers must find the understanding that greed and other evils will only bring us damnation beyond the imagination of even the Tormentor."
- Guyantwachia, aka 'Giant Watcher', Address to Princeton University, July 4, 1812
AN ELBA THE SIZE OF THE EARTH
A NAPOLEON ISOT
The year was 1799. Napoleon had just recently become Consul of the French. French troops marched in Haiti and the Alps, trying to reclaim territory in the New World and hold on to the Republic in the Old. The nation settled in for the long war. But, mysteriously, when midnight struck Paris on December 31, 1799, all the lands belonging to France or occupied by French troops was transported to an entirely new Virgin Earth. The First Année du Miracle (Year of the Miracle) began. The people of France were at first confused after the first few weeks when news from the borders spread, but soon the Catholic Church in Paris, backed by the state, was claiming that the sudden appearance of vast forests on the border was God's approval with Napoleon and his Republic. Approval ratings skyrocketed, and patriotism was at an all time high. But the new land came with more religious questions. Why now? Why not provide for the French people with mana and doves? And, most puzzlingly, why bring along the other peoples who lived in French-occupied lands-- the violent Haitians and the hedonistic Germans, as referred to by the religious scholars?
This question and others involving The Miracle led to a divide between the Catholic Church by the time of the resettlement of Rome: the Roman Catholic Church, whose Pope sat in the new Holy City of Roma, built from the ground up for worship, and who held that the "inherent superiority of Catholicism and Catholic peoples" as the partial explanation, and the Miraculous Catholic Church, whose Pope stayed in Paris and who held that the Miracle was simply logical in wanting to keep French troops with their country. The two sects were also divided between the fate of the old world they left behind. The Roman Catholics held that it still existed, and that France and neighbors (for by this time, the old occupied peoples had created neighboring nation-states, and radicals had created experimental states off in the wilderness) were in a sort of global Eden. The Miracalites held that the old Earth was forever gone, washed away in Holy Fire, with only the Republic and her sons standing strong against it.
A more radical sect of this belief created the Edenites: those who believed that this new Earth was a gift from God to True Christianity and a washing away of the Old Covenant completely, seeing as He made no special exceptions for the Jewish peoples. They only use the New Testament, and have, strangely to traditional denominations, removed Revelations, as they consider that those events are currently playing out on the old Earth, which exists, but in eternal torment of His Holy Judgement, and will soon become the "Final Hell." This belief is expressed in the Book of the Conflagration, their first added book to the New Testament. Beyond that, they are fairly bog-standard Catholic outside of a more African-derived song list, because the denomination developed in Haiti, and the addition of a new song every seven years to the Book of Psalms, based on a vote by their dioceses.
Other notable religions were the expanded Church of Reason, which accepted the Christian God as God, but insisted that this new world was a gift to the most "scientifically-minded" people. It is a supremely racist religion, reveling in its "science," but it also funds several universities worldwide, and remains obscure outside of certain hotspots of migration-- they were forced away in the first few years.
And, though the religious fought amongst themselves, Napoleon soon crowned himself Emperor, and set out to build his empire. And so the years went on....
Comments and critiques welcome, as always!
A NAPOLEON ISOT
The year was 1799. Napoleon had just recently become Consul of the French. French troops marched in Haiti and the Alps, trying to reclaim territory in the New World and hold on to the Republic in the Old. The nation settled in for the long war. But, mysteriously, when midnight struck Paris on December 31, 1799, all the lands belonging to France or occupied by French troops was transported to an entirely new Virgin Earth. The First Année du Miracle (Year of the Miracle) began. The people of France were at first confused after the first few weeks when news from the borders spread, but soon the Catholic Church in Paris, backed by the state, was claiming that the sudden appearance of vast forests on the border was God's approval with Napoleon and his Republic. Approval ratings skyrocketed, and patriotism was at an all time high. But the new land came with more religious questions. Why now? Why not provide for the French people with mana and doves? And, most puzzlingly, why bring along the other peoples who lived in French-occupied lands-- the violent Haitians and the hedonistic Germans, as referred to by the religious scholars?
This question and others involving The Miracle led to a divide between the Catholic Church by the time of the resettlement of Rome: the Roman Catholic Church, whose Pope sat in the new Holy City of Roma, built from the ground up for worship, and who held that the "inherent superiority of Catholicism and Catholic peoples" as the partial explanation, and the Miraculous Catholic Church, whose Pope stayed in Paris and who held that the Miracle was simply logical in wanting to keep French troops with their country. The two sects were also divided between the fate of the old world they left behind. The Roman Catholics held that it still existed, and that France and neighbors (for by this time, the old occupied peoples had created neighboring nation-states, and radicals had created experimental states off in the wilderness) were in a sort of global Eden. The Miracalites held that the old Earth was forever gone, washed away in Holy Fire, with only the Republic and her sons standing strong against it.
A more radical sect of this belief created the Edenites: those who believed that this new Earth was a gift from God to True Christianity and a washing away of the Old Covenant completely, seeing as He made no special exceptions for the Jewish peoples. They only use the New Testament, and have, strangely to traditional denominations, removed Revelations, as they consider that those events are currently playing out on the old Earth, which exists, but in eternal torment of His Holy Judgement, and will soon become the "Final Hell." This belief is expressed in the Book of the Conflagration, their first added book to the New Testament. Beyond that, they are fairly bog-standard Catholic outside of a more African-derived song list, because the denomination developed in Haiti, and the addition of a new song every seven years to the Book of Psalms, based on a vote by their dioceses.
Other notable religions were the expanded Church of Reason, which accepted the Christian God as God, but insisted that this new world was a gift to the most "scientifically-minded" people. It is a supremely racist religion, reveling in its "science," but it also funds several universities worldwide, and remains obscure outside of certain hotspots of migration-- they were forced away in the first few years.
And, though the religious fought amongst themselves, Napoleon soon crowned himself Emperor, and set out to build his empire. And so the years went on....
Comments and critiques welcome, as always!
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Why is the whole Earth not yet populated a thousand years after the Miracle? Even .5% annual growth (a very low rate, given the plentiful resources untapped) should give you 150 Frances worth of people by the time of the last maps.
The Imperial State would not allow too much emigration. It would be bad for the economy short-term. Notice how ordered and organized the settlement of Former China is. Men are needed for wars with Bavaria/Germany/Eastland/Haiti (depending on the era.) This, combined with non-French nations having low population density to begin with, a few horrific plagues in the early years, and a constant cycle French Imperial civil war has lead to slower-than expected expansion. And, early attempts at settling North and South America ended in horrible mosquito-related and disease-related incidents, discouraging future settlement for a few years in the crucial early stages.
Plus, France historically had a very low birth rate even for its era in this time period. It was actually pretty weird how bad it was. I figured I should factor that into things, though I may have went overboard considering that it should have picked up a bit more.
The Iranian portion of Azerbaijan was annexed by the USSR and merged with the existing Azeri SSR and remained a unifies polity from then on.
Kurdistan's backing came later and was more a case of the Kurds and Soviets seeing the other as useful.
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