Bosnia will ruin it allMust... not...think...of all... the...possible... ethnic...tensions...
Map Thread XVII
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You're right, Tajikistan is Persian (though I'll point out that they have a sizable Uzbek minority).
Often, the term "'stans" refers solely to the Central Asian former soviet republics; i.e., not Pakistan or Afghanistan (or Azerbaijan, for that matter, which has a similar linguistic root - though they are Turkic).
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I also want to add that though the Tajiks speak a Persian dialect, ethnically, they have a fair amount of Turkic admixture. This is borne out by, for example, this paper, which concludes that Tajiks and their Turkic neighbors are, for the most part, genetically indistinguishable.
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Alex Richards
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I'll admit Ivan the Terrible and Queen Elizabeth I would have been quite the power couple.
The household arguments would be insane.
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Nothing in Latin America? given the strong left-wing movements here during the XXth century (yes, even before the 60s, Argentina elected it's first socialist representative in 1904, for example) I'd expect it to be firmly in the Soviet sphere in this world.
If both Germany and France are "brotherly socialist nations" which are essentially soviet puppets, I wouldn't wonder if they'd divide via language line.
Does anyone have the most recent Worlda Available?
... I only ask because I -toottalllly- didn't just realize I had been using what seems to be the wrong one while revising the OTL series... /s
Though thank god I noticed it now rather than later... I have only gone through 9 maps thus far... out of like 40....
... I only ask because I -toottalllly- didn't just realize I had been using what seems to be the wrong one while revising the OTL series... /s
Though thank god I noticed it now rather than later... I have only gone through 9 maps thus far... out of like 40....
This is the version I'm using: it might not be 100 percent up-to-date but it should be quite accurate.
You know when you're insane when your newest project is so huge it lets a worlda fit into a minuscule side tab.
I know there are three different common configurations, one is essentially the other but offset by 10 pixels up or down(not sure which one is right) and I think there is an alternate Antarctica configuration.
That one does not seem to fit the one I use as a base but I could be using an outdated version.
This map follows a scenario in which the Russian/Ukranian crisis of 2014 escalated far further than it did IOTL.
Following a far more widespread occupation of Ukraine, the western powers put far greater sanctions on Russia, and also Belarus to stop goods getting through there.
This causes a massive economic downturn in Belarus as it does not have a natural resource revenue buffer that Russia has, leading to massive public outrage at the inability of the strictly centralised government to handle the situation.
The west decided to play Russia at its own game, and supply a resistance movement in Belarus which leads to something resembling a civil war.
The scenario may be a bit unrealistic, but I made it juts to make this map as I wanted to explore this possibility in mapping.
Behold, the long forgotten conclusion to a map series I started ages ago but never got to conclude! That being Asia Uber Alles, or the aftermath of a 1900 ISOT of political Asia (ie no Siberia) to a virgin Earth.
The western Pink state is an Anglo-French union, the red state is a socialist state formed by groups inspired by Bolsheviks and communards of primarily French African descent. The Raj ultimately collapsed and was eclipsed by Persia, Japan's North American colony broke away, while the rump-USA is not-so-rump anymore and has also broken off. With India and Japan declined, Persia, Indonesia, Oman and China are filling in that gap. The former Ottomans have federalised greatly to cover over-expansion, but even then, they are in stagnation mode, while Arabia profits.
The western Pink state is an Anglo-French union, the red state is a socialist state formed by groups inspired by Bolsheviks and communards of primarily French African descent. The Raj ultimately collapsed and was eclipsed by Persia, Japan's North American colony broke away, while the rump-USA is not-so-rump anymore and has also broken off. With India and Japan declined, Persia, Indonesia, Oman and China are filling in that gap. The former Ottomans have federalised greatly to cover over-expansion, but even then, they are in stagnation mode, while Arabia profits.
I'll admit Ivan the Terrible and Queen Elizabeth I would have been quite the power couple.
So I've been looking into it since I got such wonderful positive feedback, and it turns out Ivan and Liz were on pretty good terms, and that Ivan was annoyed Elizabeth focused more on commerce then searching for a military alliance with the Tsardom of Russia. He even proposed to her in his later life, so he could seek asylum in case his rule was overthrown. It was Ivan's son, Feodor, that jeopardised English-Russian relations, by removing exclusive trading rights and ejecting ambassadors. Elizabeth even offered Feodor a military alliance in an attempt to reinstate relations. With the addition of an incredibly Orthodox Elizabeth the 1st instead of an incredibly Protestant one, I would say it's quite plausible for this to work.
As soon as my exams are over, I'm gonna try and make a timeline of this!
BY THE GLORIOUS POWER OF MS PAINT, I SHALL BRING A PLAGUE UPON THIS WORLD UNLIKE ANY MAN HAS EVER SEEN
I SHALL CREATE, THE SIX STATE SOLUTION
Israel: While not the rising star it is in OTL, it is certiantly one of the most pleasant places to live in the Middle East. Due to constant conflicts with dirty commies and Islamic nationalists, the southern district remains one of the most populated areas in the Israeli State. However, this has been the cause for many...border conflicts concerning Egypt's control over the Red Sea. The UN is still wary of their attempted nuclear programs despite the fact that things have cooled down over the time.
Palestine: With terrorists of every stripe poking at their sides, its no wonder they've become more isolated than ever. Some say it started when the Abraham Mosque was attacked while others say that their self-seclusion has been a result of the West Bank Independence Referendum. While chances of the Muslim Brotherhood gaining power are slim-to-none, the hardline nationalists have been gaining more power with each passing day. The citizens are left to wonder when another 'border conflict' will occur once more.
Jerusalem: When the war over Jerusalem became bloodier and bloodier, the international community was forced to find a solution for this crisis. With a bit of convincing for both sides of the coin, Jerusalem would eventually find itself marching toward a better future. Tensions both ethnic and religious are still commonplace in the city with the occasional car-bombing and gang brawl. With enough money, you can find yourself in a high rise condo safe from the kooks and the nutjobs.
The West Bank State: One of the newest countries on earth, it gained its independence a few years or so after the turn of the millennium. While many kooks still believe it to be their territory alone, most of their citizens would kindly disagree. Fossil fuels make up a rather low percentage of the nation's exports with most of it relying on agriculture and tourism.
The Commune of Zion: With Stalin's death and Khrushchev seeking a springboard into the Middle East, the Soviet Union began to achieve strategic cooperation with the State of Israel. However, the Death of President Robert Taft marked the beginning of the American alliance with Israel that saw much of the Middle East becoming a bloodbath. The war would end in the treaty of 1963 that saw the borders of the nation redrawn. Eventually, the Soviet Union would fall and the Commune of Zion would live on through a series of market reforms that saw it opening up to the world. Zion remains as one of the last fifteen one-party socialist states on earth.
The Golan Free Zone: The Golan Territory has many names from the Free Durze State to the Sovereign Communes of the Golan Territory. The nation was originally meant to be a puppet for the Commune of Zion which, in itself was meant to be a puppet for the Soviet Union. The nation began to annex parts of Zion during the Democratic Revolutions of 1988 which saw communist regimes across Eastern Europe overthrown. The Golan Free Zone now exists as a de jure anarchist state along with the Sixth French Republic and Eastern Cuba. The state exists as a decentralized entity through cooperation with big businesses, lax gun laws, and the apparent lack of a capital.
I SHALL CREATE, THE SIX STATE SOLUTION
Israel: While not the rising star it is in OTL, it is certiantly one of the most pleasant places to live in the Middle East. Due to constant conflicts with dirty commies and Islamic nationalists, the southern district remains one of the most populated areas in the Israeli State. However, this has been the cause for many...border conflicts concerning Egypt's control over the Red Sea. The UN is still wary of their attempted nuclear programs despite the fact that things have cooled down over the time.
Palestine: With terrorists of every stripe poking at their sides, its no wonder they've become more isolated than ever. Some say it started when the Abraham Mosque was attacked while others say that their self-seclusion has been a result of the West Bank Independence Referendum. While chances of the Muslim Brotherhood gaining power are slim-to-none, the hardline nationalists have been gaining more power with each passing day. The citizens are left to wonder when another 'border conflict' will occur once more.
Jerusalem: When the war over Jerusalem became bloodier and bloodier, the international community was forced to find a solution for this crisis. With a bit of convincing for both sides of the coin, Jerusalem would eventually find itself marching toward a better future. Tensions both ethnic and religious are still commonplace in the city with the occasional car-bombing and gang brawl. With enough money, you can find yourself in a high rise condo safe from the kooks and the nutjobs.
The West Bank State: One of the newest countries on earth, it gained its independence a few years or so after the turn of the millennium. While many kooks still believe it to be their territory alone, most of their citizens would kindly disagree. Fossil fuels make up a rather low percentage of the nation's exports with most of it relying on agriculture and tourism.
The Commune of Zion: With Stalin's death and Khrushchev seeking a springboard into the Middle East, the Soviet Union began to achieve strategic cooperation with the State of Israel. However, the Death of President Robert Taft marked the beginning of the American alliance with Israel that saw much of the Middle East becoming a bloodbath. The war would end in the treaty of 1963 that saw the borders of the nation redrawn. Eventually, the Soviet Union would fall and the Commune of Zion would live on through a series of market reforms that saw it opening up to the world. Zion remains as one of the last fifteen one-party socialist states on earth.
The Golan Free Zone: The Golan Territory has many names from the Free Durze State to the Sovereign Communes of the Golan Territory. The nation was originally meant to be a puppet for the Commune of Zion which, in itself was meant to be a puppet for the Soviet Union. The nation began to annex parts of Zion during the Democratic Revolutions of 1988 which saw communist regimes across Eastern Europe overthrown. The Golan Free Zone now exists as a de jure anarchist state along with the Sixth French Republic and Eastern Cuba. The state exists as a decentralized entity through cooperation with big businesses, lax gun laws, and the apparent lack of a capital.
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