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In a thread about an alternate Jewish homeland there was something about East Prussia going to the Jews. I was somewhat confused, and thought it said David Lloyd George instead of David Ben-Gurion. And then this happened.


I don't have a coherent explanation, in aftiafx


I used German states that were not a part of Prussia, then divided up the Prussian parts semi-randomly.

I kept the Ottomans out because it would make the war easier for the allies.
Fair enough, sounds strange but interesting.
 

Mobiyuz

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What's the POD here, especially given that all the *northern states have different names to OTL? Or have they just been given different names later?
Somewhere around 1620, I think. I don't really know, I don't really have a timeline set here. Also, the southern states have mostly different names as well.
 
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Work-in-progress attempt at creating a Namada equivalent to those beautiful Canadian electoral maps.

It'll be part of a big 2015 election wikibox. I'm going all out on that.
 
My draft of the new German Border Divisions for my alt cold-war/ ww2 timeline
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NOTABLE EDITS FROM THE ROUGH DRAFT:
The US is less willing to hand land over to the Polish, since they are not making them a satellite like the USSR
British gain land in Vienna, with administrative division of the capital, however the US and French are the only ones who exclusive occupy Austria
Palatinate & Rhineland are occupied by the British due to a British-led Push through Nazi occupied Belgium/Luxembourg
 
My draft of the new German Border Divisions for my alt cold-war/ ww2 timeline
View attachment 369161
NOTABLE EDITS FROM THE ROUGH DRAFT:
The US is less willing to hand land over to the Polish, since they are not making them a satellite like the USSR
British gain land in Vienna, with administrative division of the capital, however the US and French are the only ones who exclusive occupy Austria
Palatinate & Rhineland are occupied by the British due to a British-led Push through Nazi occupied Belgium/Luxembourg

What's with the shape of Further Pomerania, and the divisions of Baden and Wurttemberg?
 
What's with the shape of Further Pomerania, and the divisions of Baden and Wurttemberg?
The United States wanted to appeal to the Polish people, especially because of how late they would enter the war, the United States are willing to hand over Silesia, however, ideally for the United States, they did not want to cede German lands to the Polish as doing so would offer no benefit and harm a potential future economic partner. After negotiations the diplomats to the United States allowed for the seizure of most of Silesia, however allowing further Pomerania as well as other "what-would-be" Polish lands to remain under the US occupation zone of Germany.
The Divisions of Baden and Wurttemberg were ultimately administrative zone divisions supported by the French in their occupation zone due to their country's personal preference in looking over smaller provinces. Furthermore, in this timeline due to the slower French Push because of a less successful war altogether, the French are unable to liberate lands at the same rate so for the time being the provinces farther south and west are more "de-nazi-ified".
 

fashbasher

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AoC: A map of the population of Homo sapiens beta in Secunda and Balongo
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Story: In this universe we still have access to a lot of knowledge, but electric technology has a negative impact on qi/lifeforce that means that sustained use for more than an hour is life-threatening. The result is that certain forms of mad science are able to prosper (especially those based off of breeding and genetics). In the jungles of Africa, rogue scientists from the European Space Agency in French Guiana set about to resolve what they saw as "outdated" aspects of human biology and the human psyche, most notably by breeding away nationalism and in-group preference and increasing IQ and rationality, with their base being a mixed population of scientists and Guyanais Creoles (all of whom were selected voluntarily). Within 300 years, the first artificially selected "breed" of humans had emerged, a multiracial but predominantly black Creole-speaking population with an average IQ in the 140s, reduced cognitive biases, and a complete lack of racism or xenophobia. The map below shows the core territories where Homo sapiens beta appeared by the year 300; although some betas had begun settling outside the Congo basin, particularly in coastal city-states (notice the small peninsular outpost in the upper right corner), they were mainly concentrated in Balongo proper where they made 30-35% of the population - a share which was growing fast.
 
My draft of the new German Border Divisions for my alt cold-war/ ww2 timeline
View attachment 369161
NOTABLE EDITS FROM THE ROUGH DRAFT:
The US is less willing to hand land over to the Polish, since they are not making them a satellite like the USSR
British gain land in Vienna, with administrative division of the capital, however the US and French are the only ones who exclusive occupy Austria
Palatinate & Rhineland are occupied by the British due to a British-led Push through Nazi occupied Belgium/Luxembourg
There is the major issue that the position of the United States was that Poland was going to get free elections. Therefor this would be suggesting that they had already given up on that possibility. There is also the issue of Polish-Americans. FDR used their presence to argue to Stalin about him wanting Lvov for Poland due to voters, though Stalin replied that he himself had to be on the lookout for the interest of Ukrainian voters.
 
The United States wanted to appeal to the Polish people, especially because of how late they would enter the war, the United States are willing to hand over Silesia, however, ideally for the United States, they did not want to cede German lands to the Polish as doing so would offer no benefit and harm a potential future economic partner. After negotiations the diplomats to the United States allowed for the seizure of most of Silesia, however allowing further Pomerania as well as other "what-would-be" Polish lands to remain under the US occupation zone of Germany.
The Divisions of Baden and Wurttemberg were ultimately administrative zone divisions supported by the French in their occupation zone due to their country's personal preference in looking over smaller provinces. Furthermore, in this timeline due to the slower French Push because of a less successful war altogether, the French are unable to liberate lands at the same rate so for the time being the provinces farther south and west are more "de-nazi-ified".

The French bit makes sense, the divisions are around the size of French departments.
 
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OVERVIEW

The Confederal Republic of Syria is a country located in Western Asia, bordering Lebanon and the Mediterranean Sea to the west, Turkey to the north, Iraq to the east, Jordan to the south, and Israel to the southwest. The Republic has a small number of disputed territories, mostly with the recently-annexed Confederal State of Hatay, formerly of the Turkish Republic (annexed in 2030 under NATO and UN supervision) and the Golan Heights, which is still under de-facto Israeli control, but is internationally recognised as Syrian territory. Syria’s largest city and capital is Damascus, located in the south-west of the nation.



HISTORY

The modern history of the Republic begins in the early 2010’s, with the outbreak of the Syrian Civil War in 2011. The Civil War had originally erupted because of civilian and military protests the regime of Bashar al-Assad (1962-2021), but was quickly subsumed into the greater Middle Eastern conflicts of the early-to-late 2010’s. The conflict was originally contained within the borders of Syria itself, barring the occasional spill over into Lebanon via the terrorist group Hezbollah and their raids into Assad-held territory, but the very nature of the Civil War changed the moment the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria came into the conflict.

The war against the Islamic State, the Ba’athist Syrian regime and the myriad of foreign powers and their chosen terrorist/rebel organisations ground on for almost a decade, ending in a victory for Bashar al-Assad and his Russian allies in mid-2018. The war against the Islamic State, now ground down to a mere band of militias and splinter groups, is ongoing in neighbouring Iraq.

The Russo-American backed Peace of Aleppo was the document lay the groundwork for the fledgling Confederal state, establishing a pseudo-confederal system that granted the Kurds, Alawites and the remaining Governates more power via heavy devolution. Assad and the Ba’ath Party struggled along through their new, near-powerless positions for another three years, until being evicted from power in a ‘soft coup’ against the government by pro-reformist forces.

The Confederal Constitution was officially signed off in 2023, establishing the Confederal Republics of Syria as a ‘Second Republic’.



POLITICS

The primary ideology of the Confederal Republic is a form of libertarian socialist thought known as ‘Democratic Confederalism’. The ideology that is the very foundation of the new Syrian state was created in the early 2000’s by Abdullah Öcalan, Kurdish nationalist and founder of the PKK, Öcalan argued for a confederated government wherein each constituent state had their own legal codes, languages and religious laws, but are subservient to the laws of an overarching federal government. Some elements of the economy would be state-owned, but free enterprise would be protected and encouraged as to allow alternate sources of income for the state and its citizens. Öcalan described the ideology as “…open towards other political groups and factions, flexible, multi-cultural, anti-monopolistic, and consensus-oriented…”. Many international political scientists and media pundits have described the movement as a bizarre fusion of European Social Democracy, American-style Libertarianism, Swiss Federalism and Direct Democracy and a smattering of Bookchin’s municipalist ecological theories to boot.



CONCLUSION

Despite the seemingly contradictory nature of such a state, the Confederal Republic has flourished in the years since the Civil War and the overthrow of the Assad government. Damascus has been rebuilt into a modern First World city, while refugees from the Civil War are slowly returning to their homes to rebuild.

Syria is now one of the safest regions in the Middle East for Christians, barring Israel and Egypt, while also having a growing Jewish population via a returning Syrian Jewish diaspora from the Americas and an increasing number of Israeli emigres, who are mostly employed in the IT and construction sectors.

The rights of women and various ethnic, religious and sexual minorities are also guaranteed under the Confederal Constitution, although the implementation of said laws in the more conservative towns and rural areas are still an issue in the northern, Arab-dominated portions of Syria. Cities such as Damascus, Latakia and Iskenderun are often said to be the most liberal cities in the Confederal Republic, while Homs, Aleppo and Raqqa are on the up-and-up, both socially and industrially.
 
The French bit makes sense, the divisions are around the size of French departments.
I don't know. I'd say South Baden is approximately the size of Alsace. If it was about making Departement-sized divisions it would probably have been even a little smaller.
 
My draft of the new German Border Divisions for my alt cold-war/ ww2 timeline
View attachment 369161
NOTABLE EDITS FROM THE ROUGH DRAFT:
The US is less willing to hand land over to the Polish, since they are not making them a satellite like the USSR
British gain land in Vienna, with administrative division of the capital, however the US and French are the only ones who exclusive occupy Austria
Palatinate & Rhineland are occupied by the British due to a British-led Push through Nazi occupied Belgium/Luxembourg

Just curious, but would Saxony and Brandenburg be extended further back to the East, with Saxony taking most of what remained of Upper Silesia and Brandenburg extending the Deutsche Krone, and with Pomerania existing as a whole while Mecklenburg would remain seaparate from pomerania? I'm pretty sure the only reason that Mecklenburg was only joined with part of pomerania as the partition left what remained of Pomerania too small to effective act as a state.
 
Just curious, but would Saxony and Brandenburg be extended further back to the East, with Saxony taking most of what remained of Upper Silesia and Brandenburg extending the Deutsche Krone, and with Pomerania existing as a whole while Mecklenburg would remain seaparate from pomerania? I'm pretty sure the only reason that Mecklenburg was only joined with part of pomerania as the partition left what remained of Pomerania too small to effective act as a state.
Yes they would in fact Join into larger states in Germany.
 
There is the major issue that the position of the United States was that Poland was going to get free elections. Therefor this would be suggesting that they had already given up on that possibility. There is also the issue of Polish-Americans. FDR used their presence to argue to Stalin about him wanting Lvov for Poland due to voters, though Stalin replied that he himself had to be on the lookout for the interest of Ukrainian voters.
Regarding the Issue of Poland, It will be very difficult in this TL to actually take the eastern lands of Poland which the Soviets originally integrated into the Union, however, due to the fact that the majority of Poland is US-liberated, they would likely establish a form of republic or provisional government for the first few years, so that around 1949 the first elections could be held. Also, as I previously stated, the United States still offers to hand over most of Silesia as well as half of east Prussia and Danzig, therefore giving the polish anymore land in this TL would be considered stealing from ethnically German lands.
 
Alright, here's a draft of East Asia, based on the same timeline, Of course with some deviations from the original rough draft:
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NOTABLE CHANGES FROM ROUGH DRAFT:
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The US take more islands from Japan and Korea, and also establish a military base at the northern end of the Kurils, just by the soviet border, in order to "counter-act" espionage from the Soviets.
-I gave the US a slight advantage in the border dispute against the soviets, giving them a little more of Inner Mongolia.
-Thailand and Indonesia remain us occupied for the time being, however Thailand is an independent progressive nation, meanwhile Indonesia is still a colony, neither of them are under direct US control, however Thailand may be under "slight" U.S. influence.
 
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