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Mobiyuz

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Oh look, an alternate history early 19th century United States. Never seen this before. [also i made this]
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This one's entirely historical for a change, also a good excuse to break out my old GIMP palette and adapt it for vector. It's commissioned for educational usage, which is also why the city labels are so large; they needed to be visible some distance from the screen.

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Mobiyuz

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Why does Virginia go with the south?
They chose the Mason-Dixon Line back in 1774 to divide the 13 colonies at, and Jamestown (the UPC's capital) is in Virginia. I don't have much of an actual "history" here, more just some vague implication that the northern colonies and the southern colonies couldn't agree on how to get along (after the history of English/British colonialism played out differently), and they eventually separated into two nations. Ever since then, they've been squabbling over their border, and the Ohio River was only the most recent example of that.
 
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Vive les Bernadottes. Lange lever Bernadotterna.

Wouldn't the dude be Protestant? Most of the French support for the monarchy was Catholic in nature, so it may not go very well. You could see an unlikely alliance of republicans and monarchists to boot the foreign monarch out.

Edit: welp, he started Catholic, but he may have to convert back to keep the French happy. Not sure how much the Swede would care.
 
Wouldn't the dude be Protestant? Most of the French support for the monarchy was Catholic in nature, so it may not go very well. You could see an unlikely alliance of republicans and monarchists to boot the foreign monarch out.

Edit: welp, he started Catholic, but he may have to convert back to keep the French happy. Not sure how much the Swede would care.
They would care a lot.

EDIT: I am pretty sure the proposal would have made Jean Baptiste Bernadotte king of France instead of king of Sweden-Norway.
 
They would care a lot.

EDIT: I am pretty sure the proposal would have made Jean Baptiste Bernadotte king of France instead of king of Sweden-Norway.

King of France or King of the French? Because the first one is kinda asking for the guillotine. But the Bourbon restoration did it OTL so probably the first.
 
Just a little sketch. Basically the Allies win a very quick victory in WW1 and this is what happens. The British get dominance over a Raj-esque entity stretching from Austria to the North Sea, with George V as Prince-President. The Hohenzollerns control a rump independent Prussia (though they have to share the south of the former East Prussia with a Jewish state). The Habsburgs hold Austria, but are subject to the laws of the Middle European Union.

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Just a little sketch. Basically the Allies win a very quick victory in WW1 and this is what happens. The British get dominance over a Raj-esque entity stretching from Austria to the North Sea, with George V as Prince-President. The Hohenzollerns control a rump independent Prussia (though they have to share the south of the former East Prussia with a Jewish state). The Habsburgs hold Austria, but are subject to the laws of the Middle European Union.

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This was going well and then I saw the Jewish state in East Prussia. How exactly did that happen?
 
Just a little sketch. Basically the Allies win a very quick victory in WW1 and this is what happens. The British get dominance over a Raj-esque entity stretching from Austria to the North Sea, with George V as Prince-President. The Hohenzollerns control a rump independent Prussia (though they have to share the south of the former East Prussia with a Jewish state). The Habsburgs hold Austria, but are subject to the laws of the Middle European Union.

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Why would the British and not the French have more influence in former Germany?
 
Being a Southern state to begin with helps, especially when Virginia was the most populated and economically developed one during the 17th and 18th centuries.

But it also had strong federalists, including Washington, who said if the south left the USA, he'd move north. It's certainly possible!
 
Just a little sketch. Basically the Allies win a very quick victory in WW1 and this is what happens. The British get dominance over a Raj-esque entity stretching from Austria to the North Sea, with George V as Prince-President. The Hohenzollerns control a rump independent Prussia (though they have to share the south of the former East Prussia with a Jewish state). The Habsburgs hold Austria, but are subject to the laws of the Middle European Union.

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Great map! Interesting scenario.

How did you make the borders for the "Germany-raj"? Just random lines? Or something else?

Also, why is the ottoman empire is affected? Did they not join the central powers?
 
But it also had strong federalists, including Washington, who said if the south left the USA, he'd move north. It's certainly possible!

Sure, but then again we didn't have a ton of details in the map itself other than "two countries formed from the 13 Colonies" in time for the 19th century....for all we know, a unified USA never formed other than in a conceptual, loosely geographic sense for maybe more than a millisecond. Hell, is there even a George Washington in this picture?

IJS, Virginia isn't a northern state, and lacking further details it makes sense to me.
 
Just a little sketch. Basically the Allies win a very quick victory in WW1 and this is what happens. The British get dominance over a Raj-esque entity stretching from Austria to the North Sea, with George V as Prince-President. The Hohenzollerns control a rump independent Prussia (though they have to share the south of the former East Prussia with a Jewish state). The Habsburgs hold Austria, but are subject to the laws of the Middle European Union.

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Well, looks like George is going to need to change the Royal House's name back from Windsor.
 
This was going well and then I saw the Jewish state in East Prussia. How exactly did that happen?
In a thread about an alternate Jewish homeland there was something about East Prussia going to the Jews. I was somewhat confused, and thought it said David Lloyd George instead of David Ben-Gurion. And then this happened.

Why would the British and not the French have more influence in former Germany?
I don't have a coherent explanation, in aftiafx

Great map! Interesting scenario.

How did you make the borders for the "Germany-raj"? Just random lines? Or something else?

Also, why is the ottoman empire is affected? Did they not join the central powers?
I used German states that were not a part of Prussia, then divided up the Prussian parts semi-randomly.

I kept the Ottomans out because it would make the war easier for the allies.
 
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