Map Thread XVII

Redcoat · Jan 13, 2018

Skallagrim said:
Stunning work, and I like the concept!

I do wonder what year we're looking at, as I have my doubts about the long-term stability of Greater Assam and (this ATL's) India. That last one in particular could easily see a 'Pashtunistan' breakaway state splitting off. (Which would, interestingly, mean that 'India' would once again be describing alomst exactly the same region the name referred to in antiquity.)

So in this TL, India is partitioned a lot more, with not just Pakistan breaking away, but a Dravidia nation too. Most princely states join into the surrounding countries except Kashmir and Hyderabad. Travancore, or Travancore-Cochin as it's called now joins Dravidia with autonomous status. The rump state left is Hindustan, since the Pashtun state (which contains the Indus) called itself India first. TTL India is basically just a Pashtun-Sindh state.

And the year is right after whenever the dust settles.

Excelsior · Jan 13, 2018

ADS94 said:
This took a lot longer than I expected...

Anyway, this is the United States of America from my "Our Fair Country" timeline. It was originally going to be all of North America, but I quickly realised that the size was getting out of hand, and quickly scaled back my ambitions. Looking back after I exported it, I realised that I still missed a few things but, quite frankly, I really wanted to work on another project. I might pick this back up in the future and work with it more. It was my first ding at a modern map, so I'm kinda happy how it turned out, and am looking forward to my next modern map in New England.

Here's a link to the full-res version.

Great map! Is there anything you can't do?

Redcoat · Jan 13, 2018

No one asked for this but I felt like adding a modern border overlay too.

CosmicAsh · Jan 13, 2018

edricwashington said:
Great map! Is there anything you can't do?

Calculus.

Hapsburg · Jan 13, 2018

Clandango said:
Does the lack of names at the southeastern archipelago signify that they are undiscovered?

Not necessarily, though it is true that they are unexplored.

And are those two dots beneath Ocean of Morning islands or just dots that got left there? Just asking because of the positioning and coloring.

Islands.

CosmicAsh · Jan 13, 2018

Black said:
How do you make maps in this modern type style?I have tried it and never can get it to look right.

This started as just an old style map. I made it a modern one by making the base later white instead of cream, and using bright colours for the states instead of muted and darker ones.

SpicyJuan · Jan 13, 2018

AustrianLivesMatter said:
I have been gone for a while doing other things but here is quick WIP. Also this was done using a Victoria 2 province mapView attachment 365062
Please leave feed back while I will still change it.

Where can I find the province map?

Black · Jan 13, 2018

ADS94 said:
This started as just an old style map. I made it a modern one by making the base later white instead of cream, and using bright colours for the states instead of muted and darker ones.

How do you do the the gradient from outside in for each state?

Black · Jan 13, 2018

redditredcoat216 said:
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No one asked for this but I felt like adding a modern border overlay too.

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It is straight out of a high school textbook. You should make up a whole section from a mock book about it. Would be cool

Redcoat · Jan 13, 2018

Black said:
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It is straight out of a high school textbook. You should make up a whole section from a mock book about it. Would be cool

Was just thinking of doing specific maps for each nation. Thanks. What do you mean by that?

Black · Jan 13, 2018

redditredcoat216 said:
Was just thinking of doing specific maps for each nation. Thanks. What do you mean by that?

Something like this

DracoLazarus · Jan 13, 2018

Black said:
Something like this
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Black · Jan 13, 2018

DracoLazarus said:

I fixed it

Redcoat · Jan 13, 2018

Black said:
Something like this

Too text oriented for me. I was thinking something along the lines of detailed maps of each nation.

The Plainsman · Jan 13, 2018

The uniting of the Spanish and Portuguese crowns occurred all the way back in 1580 during Portugal's succession crisis, and Spain stepped in to control the region. While initially, Portugal more or less was allowed to keep it's autonomy, the following decades would see Madrid enforcing more control of the region. Various rebellions and uprisings in Portugal would only result in them being suppressed and eventually lose it's autonomy all together in the late 17th century. The empire Iberia had was once a great one, with colonies from the New World to many Pacific islands. However, since the end of the 18th and beginning of the 19th century, it's been steeply on the decline. Between poor leadership, the various wars with the revolutionary and belligerent British Republic, and another rebellion in the Portuguese provinces, Iberia would lose its American colonies from revolution or selling them to the United States of Columbia to fund it's wars. While she still manages to hold on to its African colonies and various islands in the Caribbean and the Pacific, its only by a thread. She's made thus far to the 20th century, but with instability brewing once more on the peninsula, it's doubtful Iberia will keep itself from slipping into pages of history for much longer.

merkmuds · Jan 13, 2018

fashbasher said:
The year was 1240 in the Aeon Musk

This might be the first map involving the culture. Well done!

Gian · Jan 13, 2018

One question though, should I try to "indigenize" some of the toponyms if the country at large still speaks Spanish (or at least a Spanish creole)?

fashbasher · Jan 13, 2018

I'm lately getting into the two Americanizing factions that exist within Age of Civs, so I decided to create aerial "maps" of two such colonial schemes.

The one on the left is a typical Attucks Society village, based off of the urban northeast. It's named after a man shot by the NYPD in the early 21st century (but also after its founder, a Mr. Ramathorn), is styled after Northeastern cities and towns complete with a New England village green, and has a more ethnically diverse population (40% white Anglo, 40% white Hispanic, 10% black, 5% East Indian, 5% Amerindian/other/thoroughly mixed). The one on the right is a Jeffersonian colony that is based more on the romanticized agrarian past and the South in particular; it's quite a bit whiter than the Attucks settlement but both are generally respectful and well-behaved communities. Note that explicitly American symbols are kinda taboo in this universe for historical reasons (the 2020s-2060s see a huge backlash against the US on environment and economics) so even having a white picket fence or a flag modeled after the American one is seen as subversive and "dark" in the same way that pentagrams and black ski masks are today.

fashbasher · Jan 13, 2018

merkmuds said:
This might be the first map involving the culture. Well done!

Yup. It's a deconstruction though, and on Terra the Culture eventually collapses into a robot war as some AIs decide that humanoids cannot be trusted. The Culture eventually prevails thanks to help from its colonies, but it turns out that good old Earthling ideologies are a far bigger threat imo than classic sci-fi enemies.

merkmuds · Jan 13, 2018

fashbasher said:
Yup. It's a deconstruction though, and on Terra the Culture eventually collapses into a robot war as some AIs decide that humanoids cannot be trusted. The Culture eventually prevails thanks to help from its colonies, but it turns out that good old Earthling ideologies are a far bigger threat imo than classic sci-fi enemies.

In the actual culture (the one from the books) i don't think there has ever been a case of rouge Minds, plus humans can't to much to minds.

What was the robot war like? I'd imagine with the advanced technology of the culture, serious shit would go down.

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