Isn't it more of a musical performance?
(And they don't really need to get along that well to perform. See, any rock band ever.
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Isn't it more of a musical performance?
(And they don't really need to get along that well to perform. See, any rock band ever.
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A quick CSA/Canada-wank I did for MOTF 170. Would love some criticism/suggestions and ideas for city names.
Ouch, how did the CSA expand so far south?
What happend here?
A quick CSA/Canada-wank I did for MOTF 170. Would love some criticism/suggestions and ideas for city names.
How the CSA treats the spanish-speaking people?
Relations of the CSA with Canada, California, the Rockies, Pennsylvania, New York, the SRGL and Colombia?
Oh I'll give you some criticism. That Canada is way to small for starters!
A quick CSA/Canada-wank I did for MOTF 170. Would love some criticism/suggestions and ideas for city names.
Serious question though whats the rough TL? are the big C's friends that split up the US between then or bitter enemy's?
A quick CSA/Canada-wank I did for MOTF 170. Would love some criticism/suggestions and ideas for city names.
Just a quick nitpick, Havana was the proposed capital for the "Golden Circle" plan, also the CSA had ambitions of claiming southern Illinois and Indiana, if you really want to wank them.
Gian
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A quick CSA/Canada-wank I did for MOTF 170. Would love some criticism/suggestions and ideas for city names.
Also, what happened to the Francophones of Quebec and Acadia
Anything with a Great Lakes Union gets an A+ from me
A quick CSA/Canada-wank I did for MOTF 170. Would love some criticism/suggestions and ideas for city names.
A mix of European support, massive industrialization, excessive jingoism, and a touch of manifest destiny.
Mexico for the most part has been largely "Anglicized" but the further south you go the more Spanish-speaking people you'll find. I tried to model this by giving Anglicized cities their proper English Names (like Vera Cruz->True Cross) while those that are Spanish speaking retain their Spanish names (Colon, Guatemala, etc).
CSA has a diverse range of relationships with the other countries in the America's. Although California and the Rockies are officially neutral buffer states, they have quite a cozy relationship with the CSA who makes it no secret they want to annex them. The CSA has very hostile relations with the Great Lakes having frequent "border skirmishes" (since they're bound by major rivers, these "skirmishes" are usually nothing more than massed artillery bombardment). PA is also a buffer state although it is almost fully within the Canadian orbit meaning that they have much more cordial relations with the South. Southern politicians love ranting and raving about the "Jewish interests" in New York, but when no one's really paying attention, the South makes quite a lot of business and banking transactions with them. Canada and the CSA have had a complex relationship over the years. Although they started together as inseparable allies, the two nations have grown apart over the years turning into a cold war.
I have a very vague idea of the TL (as this era is not my specialty) so I was thinking a significant (although not fatal) loss of the US in 1812. The situation deteriorates over the next decades with the Civil War breaking out sometime in the 1840s. Am completely open to suggestions, however.Oh I'll give you some criticism. That Canada is way to small for starters!
Serious question though whats the rough TL? are the big C's friends that split up the US between then or bitter enemy's?
Havana was indeed the proposed capital however I decided to keep Richmond the capital for two reasons: historically one of the reasons why the CSA moved the capital from Montgomery to Richmond was due to the geographic conditions (no one enjoys sweltering humidity and hordes of mosquitoes), which would apply to Havana too. Another reason is that it's generally not a good idea to put the capital of a vast continental power on an island, especially if you don't have the world's strongest navy (which the CSA certainly wouldn't have in ATL 1840s).
As for Southern IN and IL, I found it to be more plausible or "clean" if the boundary was a river.
I see that "New London" and "Mary's City" caught your attention. Sometime in the late 19th Century an Anglo-French war broke out and as a dutiful Dominion Canada joined her parent country. Immediately, anti-French sentiment spread throughout Canada and due to legislation and social pressure, the French integrated or were deported to France after the war (somewhat similar to the German-Americans during WW1).
Now presenting an inverted WWII in which a fascist coalition led by France and Russia encroach on democratic Europe!
The main POD is that the 1918 US Congressional elections result in Democratic control, allowing Wilson more wiggle room at the Paris Peace Conference. The concessions are significantly lowered than in OTL, resulting in a better off Germany and a France seething with resentment. France comes under the rule of the French Action (AF) after they capitalize on this resentment in the mid 1920s. The AF embarks on a harshly anti-German, expansionist agenda. This leads to the annexation of Belgium in 1932 and the invasion of Switzerland in 1936, which triggers the Second Great War (or Great War II). France leads a new Entente with Mussolini's Italy, rightist Russia, Nationalist Greece and Franco's Spain. The UK (w. US financial support) leads the Eighth Coalition of Weimar Germany, Poland-Livonia and the Kingdom of Hungary.
1. Belgium is comparable to OTL's Austria; the Union was widely welcomed (Flemish opinions were discounted).
2. Gallicization is on schedule here; in spite of continued resistance, the use of poison gas on Zurich was found to be effective in dealing with the 'Germanic problem'.
3. The Republic of Poland-Livonia was born out of necessity; the fledgling Baltics and Poland threw themselves together to provide economic stability and counterbalance the power of Russia to the east.
4. ITTL the Bolsheviks' coup ultimately failed, leading to a Nationalist Orthodox regime taking power. It's on the Handmaid's Tale level of psychotic dictatorship, though its historic alliance w. France makes it a true threat.
5. ^ As Finland was unfortunate to experience. Russia has retaken the entirety of Finland by 1937 and has begun to "convert" the masses to Nationalist Orthodoxy.
6. Sweden, recognizing it's caught between a rock and a hard place, goes for neutrality.
7. ITTL Hungary received more favorable terms in the Versailles settlement, keeping control over Czechoslovakia. The latter region has gained some autonomy, however.
8. There was some attempts at self-determination here, but Russia said no-no.
9. Between Turkey, British Transjordan and Palestine, France couldn't hope of keeping Syria.
10. Despite Italian and Greek partition of the country, there's some raging partisan resistance going on here.
11. An irony of all ironies, the democratic Weimar Republic has been strengthened by uniting against the common enemy of France. ITTL Hitler was sent to a mental institution, where he semi-happily produces mediocre art.
Also 11 (Typo). An expansionist Greece managed to kick the Turks out of Europe proper; the only problem is continued urban guerilla resistance in Istanbul.
The main POD is that the 1918 US Congressional elections result in Democratic control, allowing Wilson more wiggle room at the Paris Peace Conference. The concessions are significantly lowered than in OTL, resulting in a better off Germany and a France seething with resentment. France comes under the rule of the French Action (AF) after they capitalize on this resentment in the mid 1920s. The AF embarks on a harshly anti-German, expansionist agenda. This leads to the annexation of Belgium in 1932 and the invasion of Switzerland in 1936, which triggers the Second Great War (or Great War II). France leads a new Entente with Mussolini's Italy, rightist Russia, Nationalist Greece and Franco's Spain. The UK (w. US financial support) leads the Eighth Coalition of Weimar Germany, Poland-Livonia and the Kingdom of Hungary.
1. Belgium is comparable to OTL's Austria; the Union was widely welcomed (Flemish opinions were discounted).
2. Gallicization is on schedule here; in spite of continued resistance, the use of poison gas on Zurich was found to be effective in dealing with the 'Germanic problem'.
3. The Republic of Poland-Livonia was born out of necessity; the fledgling Baltics and Poland threw themselves together to provide economic stability and counterbalance the power of Russia to the east.
4. ITTL the Bolsheviks' coup ultimately failed, leading to a Nationalist Orthodox regime taking power. It's on the Handmaid's Tale level of psychotic dictatorship, though its historic alliance w. France makes it a true threat.
5. ^ As Finland was unfortunate to experience. Russia has retaken the entirety of Finland by 1937 and has begun to "convert" the masses to Nationalist Orthodoxy.
6. Sweden, recognizing it's caught between a rock and a hard place, goes for neutrality.
7. ITTL Hungary received more favorable terms in the Versailles settlement, keeping control over Czechoslovakia. The latter region has gained some autonomy, however.
8. There was some attempts at self-determination here, but Russia said no-no.
9. Between Turkey, British Transjordan and Palestine, France couldn't hope of keeping Syria.
10. Despite Italian and Greek partition of the country, there's some raging partisan resistance going on here.
11. An irony of all ironies, the democratic Weimar Republic has been strengthened by uniting against the common enemy of France. ITTL Hitler was sent to a mental institution, where he semi-happily produces mediocre art.
Also 11 (Typo). An expansionist Greece managed to kick the Turks out of Europe proper; the only problem is continued urban guerilla resistance in Istanbul.
Heres yet another What if Germany won WWI map (quite heavily) based on the series asking if it would be a more peaceful world
I propose this map is from around 1917-1918 after the Central Powers had obvious dominance and forced the Entente into a bruising peace treaty.
I propose this map is from around 1917-1918 after the Central Powers had obvious dominance and forced the Entente into a bruising peace treaty.
Oh, this is going to be a bloodbath, but a victory for the Eighth Coalition.
How is things in the Americans, and Asia?
Skallagrim
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I always like a good CP victory, but one thing's for sure: Germany wouldn't be getting those colonies. They seem to be taking British, French, Belgian and Portuguese colonies. That last one makes little sense, and the first three aren't happening because Britain isn't going to stand for it. Britain may concede defeat in Europe, but what's Germany going to do? Invade Britain? Good luck with that. Britain just bows out, and Germany considers that a big win. As soon as Germany demands British colonies, Britain says 'haha, no'-- and Germany can't make Britain give up those colonies. As soon as Germany claims Belgium as a puppet state, Britain is quite likely to annex to Congo for itself. Same goes for any strategically important French colonies Germany gets France to concede.
At best, Germany is getting some colonial expansion to the detriment of France, but a huge German colonial empire is just not happening.
If a monster mash is a world where monsters from different universes live in harmony, would a matzo mash be one where myriad Jewish states exist?
Mazel Tov!
Needs more Thessalonika!
Zek Sora
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Nice map, but the Confederation of the Rockies seems to include very little of, well, the Rockies.
I would assume this is best case scenario for the
I think this scenario is a best possible outcome for the German Empire with that huge chunk of territory in Africa not to mention Indochina and the Pacific and the forced liberation of all Britans main Colonies like Canada and such. Its unlikely but it leads to "What would Germany do with the colonies?" "How would India break up?" and so on and so on which I think is the best part of alternate history, determining realistically what happens next.
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