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I really enjoyed writing that stuff, I'll probably be writing a timeline soon.
My updated version of my post-apocalyptic world, now with British Empire/Commonwealth and Union of the Americas!
Yes, I _appropriated_ the borders of Dune (that desert nation) from B_Munro. As they say, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
It's been fifteen years since the supernatural Apocalypse, in which angels, demons, and an even more powerful entity, the Darkness, fought for the fate of the globe. In the end the Darkness decided to leave because her eternal enemy, God, was dead, and so the Apocalypse ended.
As one of the first countries to clear itself of the supernatural scourge, the United States is back on the map as one of the Top Powers of the globe, though its reach is now limited to the Americas and a few outlying allies around the world. The Union of the Americas, which is a NATO/NAFTA+MERCOSUR hybrid on steroids, is the main American alliance-support group, though one questions how puppet-y the UoA is. Similarly, people talk of the friction between Brazil and the United States.
During the Apocalypse, Britain was turned into Airstrip One for attacks against the supernaturally-infested mainland, with human-friendly angels, demons, and humans themselves working to rebuild Britain into a functioning, working and powerful military base from which to effectively serve as a Fortress Britain against the supernatural. Given how fast the supernatural works, Britain was mostly back to normal by the end of the Apocalypse, and with them working to rebuild Canada, Australia, and New Zealand's infrastructure, as well as encouraging immigration to those war-torn countries, (as well as a healthy deal of puppeting) it was no surprise that Canada, Australia, and New Zealand joined Great Britain as Dominions. But they're pretty puppety though, and with their industrial base, Britain has now propelled itself back into world power status. The British also picked up a few former colonies along the way, though no one really knows what the British are up to anyway now- their ruling establishment is complicated, to say the least. Some far-right politicians in Britain call for the return of the entire old Empire....
The European Union worked hard to rebuild itself after the devastation of the Apocalypse, with Germany taking advantage of the chaos to reclaim Germany's Weimar borders (minus East Prussia). Nowadays the EU is one of the world's foremost powers, with a rapidly expanding economy, though talking heads grumble that the EU had a lower place to start from to begin with....
Russia is complicated, too. There was a brief civil war in 2019 which ended up with the Russian monarchy being restored (constitutionally) and this new animal called the Democratic Party of Russia has won the elections since the end of the Civil War, though the Communist Party of the Russian Empire (lol) has made remarkable headway in the last elections. Russia is nowadays very much of a great power, though its influence is still limited by the same things that it did before the Apocalypse- geography and availability of ports. Even so, Russia is well-respected in the international community, though secretly the United States and the British Empire [1] work to counter Russian advances.
Africa's a mess. Much of it is disorganised chaos- the UN patrols the coasts to protect shipping and natural resources, though it's stretched thin and many contributing countries are reluctant to give up funds when they could be better-used back home. Still, it's not entirely a mess. The new nation of Dune has emerged amid the chaos, founded by a figure that seems rather like the Caliphs of old, though his claim is a secular one. [2] The Congo, surprisingly, has survived, mainly because of a Lord of Hell who decided that the Congo's natural resources would be better preserved in stability than controlled by chaotic rebels. Bamanisa Jean Saidi [3] has been president since 2022, but there are signs that he wants to step down soon, a refreshing wind of change to the erstwhile-dictatorial and trouble-plagued Congo. In the south, South Africa has too seen increased white migration [4], mainly from Britain, but it has refused repeated attempts to join the British Empire, though it's a big ally of the former.
Japan was hit, hard, and as a result they've instituted the highly unpopular Baby Tax, which gives tax credits for every baby, and a massive tax increase if you don't have children. But on the plus side, the codes of bushido are becoming more prevalent. Men, and some women, are bearing swords in public again.
China fell into civil war, although finally democracy triumphed. The United Federation of China absorbed economically-unstable Mongolia postwar, and has the potential to become a world power like it used to, though the fact that there are hundreds of political parties does destabilize the Parliament from doing much.
Renewable energy has become a big thing, though oil and other natural resources are still very big on the world market. Religion has also gone up, with Russia officially adapting Eastern Orthodoxy as its state religion once more.
And still no one can figure out where the Darkness (and Lucifer) went.
[1] Although it's still officially the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, the aggressive foreign policy that Britain has pursued this decade has led foreign policy experts to call it "the British Empire", a nod to Britannia of old.
Yes, I _appropriated_ the borders of Dune (that desert nation) from B_Munro. As they say, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
It's been fifteen years since the supernatural Apocalypse, in which angels, demons, and an even more powerful entity, the Darkness, fought for the fate of the globe. In the end the Darkness decided to leave because her eternal enemy, God, was dead, and so the Apocalypse ended.
As one of the first countries to clear itself of the supernatural scourge, the United States is back on the map as one of the Top Powers of the globe, though its reach is now limited to the Americas and a few outlying allies around the world. The Union of the Americas, which is a NATO/NAFTA+MERCOSUR hybrid on steroids, is the main American alliance-support group, though one questions how puppet-y the UoA is. Similarly, people talk of the friction between Brazil and the United States.
During the Apocalypse, Britain was turned into Airstrip One for attacks against the supernaturally-infested mainland, with human-friendly angels, demons, and humans themselves working to rebuild Britain into a functioning, working and powerful military base from which to effectively serve as a Fortress Britain against the supernatural. Given how fast the supernatural works, Britain was mostly back to normal by the end of the Apocalypse, and with them working to rebuild Canada, Australia, and New Zealand's infrastructure, as well as encouraging immigration to those war-torn countries, (as well as a healthy deal of puppeting) it was no surprise that Canada, Australia, and New Zealand joined Great Britain as Dominions. But they're pretty puppety though, and with their industrial base, Britain has now propelled itself back into world power status. The British also picked up a few former colonies along the way, though no one really knows what the British are up to anyway now- their ruling establishment is complicated, to say the least. Some far-right politicians in Britain call for the return of the entire old Empire....
The European Union worked hard to rebuild itself after the devastation of the Apocalypse, with Germany taking advantage of the chaos to reclaim Germany's Weimar borders (minus East Prussia). Nowadays the EU is one of the world's foremost powers, with a rapidly expanding economy, though talking heads grumble that the EU had a lower place to start from to begin with....
Russia is complicated, too. There was a brief civil war in 2019 which ended up with the Russian monarchy being restored (constitutionally) and this new animal called the Democratic Party of Russia has won the elections since the end of the Civil War, though the Communist Party of the Russian Empire (lol) has made remarkable headway in the last elections. Russia is nowadays very much of a great power, though its influence is still limited by the same things that it did before the Apocalypse- geography and availability of ports. Even so, Russia is well-respected in the international community, though secretly the United States and the British Empire [1] work to counter Russian advances.
Africa's a mess. Much of it is disorganised chaos- the UN patrols the coasts to protect shipping and natural resources, though it's stretched thin and many contributing countries are reluctant to give up funds when they could be better-used back home. Still, it's not entirely a mess. The new nation of Dune has emerged amid the chaos, founded by a figure that seems rather like the Caliphs of old, though his claim is a secular one. [2] The Congo, surprisingly, has survived, mainly because of a Lord of Hell who decided that the Congo's natural resources would be better preserved in stability than controlled by chaotic rebels. Bamanisa Jean Saidi [3] has been president since 2022, but there are signs that he wants to step down soon, a refreshing wind of change to the erstwhile-dictatorial and trouble-plagued Congo. In the south, South Africa has too seen increased white migration [4], mainly from Britain, but it has refused repeated attempts to join the British Empire, though it's a big ally of the former.
Japan was hit, hard, and as a result they've instituted the highly unpopular Baby Tax, which gives tax credits for every baby, and a massive tax increase if you don't have children. But on the plus side, the codes of bushido are becoming more prevalent. Men, and some women, are bearing swords in public again.
China fell into civil war, although finally democracy triumphed. The United Federation of China absorbed economically-unstable Mongolia postwar, and has the potential to become a world power like it used to, though the fact that there are hundreds of political parties does destabilize the Parliament from doing much.
Renewable energy has become a big thing, though oil and other natural resources are still very big on the world market. Religion has also gone up, with Russia officially adapting Eastern Orthodoxy as its state religion once more.
And still no one can figure out where the Darkness (and Lucifer) went.
[1] Although it's still officially the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, the aggressive foreign policy that Britain has pursued this decade has led foreign policy experts to call it "the British Empire", a nod to Britannia of old.
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A while back I asked about countries that aren't commonly wanked. I put them all on the same map. The wanks include; Central African Empire, Oman, West Florida, Perm, Tasmania, Tibet and, Sri Lanka.
fashbasher
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If a monster mash is a world where monsters from different universes live in harmony, would a matzo mash be one where myriad Jewish states exist?
A little map, the premise being North American states with vastly different borders.
Cool! Is it an ISOT? If so, maybe add in the Yiddish Policeman Union Alaska, or something like that, and the Jewish reservation in Long Island from CSA.
fashbasher
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It's a oneshot. So no worldbuilding whatsoever. But those could also be put in; there's only so many fictional Jewish states that one alt-earth can hold.
A map based on the 4-month long wild ride that has been 1492: Hello Cruel World, over in Shared Worlds, featuring Tibetan China, alt!Nader Shah popping up absolutely everywhere and 5 sects of Christianity running all over Europe by the year 1738 Anno Domini. All in all, lot's of fun so come join!
History has had many great empires. From East to West, from the armies of the Caliph to the tropical halls of the Mexica, you will see halls of glimmering gold, where great men forge the fate of millions with a simple brush stroke. But in ancient Cathay, the house of Trisong rules a nation of millions.
The house of Gampo came from the West, from Bhod, or Tybet as Western explorers call them. It is a land where few dare trespass, where even the natives fear what dwells in the mountains. But beyond the visage of mysticism the highland offers, we see a culture. A culture that isolated itself by its own free will, reciting their sutras quietly and passively. Lamas talked of great peace and great suffering, of the karmic, neverending nature of life. It was in such a land where Trisong Gampo, a simple soldier, of which Bhod had never had much need for was born.
The Elder Ancestor Trisong Gampo “the Militant”
大羌高祖武皇帝 鐵松·錦報
Like many of the highlands, Trisong was a deeply traditional, simple man. He served in the militia that defended Bhod from threats beyond her poorly-demarcated borders, of which there were few. The only significant action he saw was during the invasion of Dali, a largely bloodless conflict for any involved. In that war, he took hold of several Portugese-made muskets, but they were little more than trinkets to play around with.
As Trisong grew older, the century-and-a-half of chaos that had engulfed China’s stumbling Shu Dynasty spread to Bhod: General Ning, a powerful warlord in the Chinese southwest led his armies into Tybet over a succession crisis that had broken out over the death of the S’De Pa—regent of the kingdom. Chinese armies roamed across the barren countryside, and with no unified force to resist an invasion, Trisong Gampo took it upon himself. Guerilla fighters were organized, descending upon unsuspecting Chinese forces. These fighters were warriors anointed by the Lamas, wielding maces and clad in black, carrying with them holy weapons named Gokhang. With faith and zeal, Trisong Gampo repelled the Shu invader, and created a bulwark to the East.
But the militiaman’s ambitions did not end there—not by far. Leading what was now Bhod’s most powerful military force, he marched Westwards, vanquishing the troublesome nobles and lamas once and for all. In recaptured Lhasa, he declared the Empire of Bhod reborn.
The following years were not smooth sailing: far from it. Through decades of battle, Tibet never managed to break through that vital passage that saved China again and again across 7 centuries: Yulu Mountain. As Trisong’s hair turned from a jet black to a seamless alabaster, scarcely anything had changed. Bodies littered the mountains, reddening peaks of white.
It was only when Trisong was 80, an age where even his sons were old men that China finally failed. The Xia Dynasty, the new warlord regime was called, fell into disarray and the dikes broke. Bhod’s soldiers swarmed into Sichuan like a tidal wave. Decades of preparation cumulated in one final sweeping conflict.
And as the famous novel said, "the empire, long divided, must unite; long united, must divide." China was united under better management—wiser management. From mountain to sea and sea to desert, China was united once more, under the banner of the Western barbarians.
It was at this peak of achievement that Trisong Gampo passed away. He left behind him a nation on the cusp of greatness, ready to realize its true destiny.
大羌太祖和裕文皇帝 宋貞·錦報
The Grand Ancestor Emperor Heyu “the Scholarly” Songtsen Gampo
Songtsen Gampo took the throne as an aged man. Flowing locks of greyed hair, wrinkles dotting his face. Songtsen in many ways knew that he was destined to be a footnote in history, overshadowed by his father, and as he would have mused on his deathbed, hopefully by his son. But while he may have reigned for but 16 years, his contributions are not to be understated.
Songtsen’s story begins much, much earlier. He was a boy when his father conquered Bhod and proclaimed a new empire, watching and learning from an example of a towering figure.
As Songtsen grew into a teen, court struggles would plague the newly established Bhod Empire. Brother turned against brother, and father turned against son. Songtsen maneuvered a life of danger with meticulous calculation, advoiding making rivals or allies. He instead occupied himself with military matters, guarding Bhod’s eastern border.
But a commander he was not, and Bhod’s military failures in this period show that very well. Indeed, China fell to the house of Gampo not by foreign conquest, but by internal chaos. Nevertheless, it distanced himself from politics, and that was all Songtsen wanted. Songtsen would find his true talents when the proverbial dikes broke and Qiang forces swarmed into China proper. In a foreign, hostile land, Songtsen pacified a rebellious population, restored order in lands that had seen uninterrupted war for centuries. He was an administrator with talents not seen amongst his brothers.
And so in Trisong Gampo’s last days, an unexpected heir was chosen.
Songtsen was crowned Emperor of Bhod, and Heyu Emperor of the newly declared Qiang Dynasty, a dynasty named after the ancient peoples that terrorized China’s Western border throughout the Three Kingdoms Era, thought to be a group related to the Bhod of today. But there was no time for celebrations to take place, for there was a greater threat just further eastwards.
The Jurchens, taken advantage of China’s exposed state had marched across the Greatest Pass in All Under Heaven—Shanhai Pass and seized much of the lucrative North China Plain. Knowing full well of the shaky state the Qiang were in following the death of their emperor for 52 long years, the Jurchens knew that it was now or never.
The Heyu Emperor had what was possibly the greatest inheritance in the world—second arguably only to the Ghazalid Caliphate, and now the 50 year old had to beat back all his rivals.
Step by step, absolute power was restored to the throne. Sweeping reforms reforged the centuries-old Confucian bureaucracy into a well-crafted tool of administration; the borders were pacified and each of the Dynasty’s neighbors humbled. A nation just yesterday in anarchy was now unrecognizable in the span of a decade. Deep in the palace complexes of Luoyang, you would see the Emperor awake, signing documents and issuing edicts through the hours.
Songtsen Gampo, the Heyu Emperor, Son of Heaven, Lord of Ten Thousand Years passed away one night in the autumn of 1726, working himself to death.
大羌聖祖弘干仁皇帝 楊啟·錦報
The Holy Ancestor Emperor Honggan “the Benevolent” Yangkey Gampo
Yangkey Gampo, the Honggan Emperor ascended to the throne at the age of 32, by far the youngest monarch China had seen in a very, very long time. And with youth comes hotheadedness. With China finally resembling a unified, centralized polity once more, even striking out against her Northern neighbours, the Honggan Emperor precieved himself to have the task, bestowed to him by history to secure the Qiang’s place in the sun.
The invasion of Annam in 1729 was a new page in Qiang history. The Qiang military, a behemoth for even a nation the size of China had always been designed to fight wars as the home team. Foreign detours were rare, and when undertaken, often with the aid of local interest groups.
Moreover, the Qiang military was divided into two: the 16 “League Armies”, organized around Mongol-Tibetan heavy infantry and horsemen; and the “Han armies”, formation while technologically superior, far inferior in quality. This war saw the realization that the military caste of the league armies was showing its strain. Of the 290,000 men that crossed the Viet border, nearly all were recruited from Southern China—Han country. Han forces, of which the Yunnanese jungle fighters were (incorrectly) classified as proved more suited to fighting the area for reasons of logistics and manpower.
Victory in Vietnam was followed by war in Thailand, the long-reigning hegemon of Indochina. Such wars, bloody and often hurting China more than it benefitted was ultimately not a means of obtaining gain, but of prestige and power projection. China had arguably never been so strong since the days of the Tang Dynasty a millennia ago.
But China’s true problems have never been solved, and it is a fact that keeps the Honggan Emperor awake at night: There is the ever-present problem of the treasury, with the vast sums of loot that came from Bod's rise just 30 years ago finally starting to run out. The taxation system is in dire need of streamlining, the merchants have to be made to accept Qiang rule and the military has to be drastically downsized.
With the borders secured with sweat and toil, the house of Gampo seems able to catch its breath. The problems of China have been lying in wait, and it is Yangkey Gampo’s chance to avert them before they strike.
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北極朝廷終不改，西山寇盜莫相侵。
May the State be established as firm as the North Star
And bandits dare not venture from the western hills，
May the State be established as firm as the North Star
And bandits dare not venture from the western hills，
History has had many great empires. From East to West, from the armies of the Caliph to the tropical halls of the Mexica, you will see halls of glimmering gold, where great men forge the fate of millions with a simple brush stroke. But in ancient Cathay, the house of Trisong rules a nation of millions.
The house of Gampo came from the West, from Bhod, or Tybet as Western explorers call them. It is a land where few dare trespass, where even the natives fear what dwells in the mountains. But beyond the visage of mysticism the highland offers, we see a culture. A culture that isolated itself by its own free will, reciting their sutras quietly and passively. Lamas talked of great peace and great suffering, of the karmic, neverending nature of life. It was in such a land where Trisong Gampo, a simple soldier, of which Bhod had never had much need for was born.
The Elder Ancestor Trisong Gampo “the Militant”
大羌高祖武皇帝 鐵松·錦報
Like many of the highlands, Trisong was a deeply traditional, simple man. He served in the militia that defended Bhod from threats beyond her poorly-demarcated borders, of which there were few. The only significant action he saw was during the invasion of Dali, a largely bloodless conflict for any involved. In that war, he took hold of several Portugese-made muskets, but they were little more than trinkets to play around with.
As Trisong grew older, the century-and-a-half of chaos that had engulfed China’s stumbling Shu Dynasty spread to Bhod: General Ning, a powerful warlord in the Chinese southwest led his armies into Tybet over a succession crisis that had broken out over the death of the S’De Pa—regent of the kingdom. Chinese armies roamed across the barren countryside, and with no unified force to resist an invasion, Trisong Gampo took it upon himself. Guerilla fighters were organized, descending upon unsuspecting Chinese forces. These fighters were warriors anointed by the Lamas, wielding maces and clad in black, carrying with them holy weapons named Gokhang. With faith and zeal, Trisong Gampo repelled the Shu invader, and created a bulwark to the East.
But the militiaman’s ambitions did not end there—not by far. Leading what was now Bhod’s most powerful military force, he marched Westwards, vanquishing the troublesome nobles and lamas once and for all. In recaptured Lhasa, he declared the Empire of Bhod reborn.
The following years were not smooth sailing: far from it. Through decades of battle, Tibet never managed to break through that vital passage that saved China again and again across 7 centuries: Yulu Mountain. As Trisong’s hair turned from a jet black to a seamless alabaster, scarcely anything had changed. Bodies littered the mountains, reddening peaks of white.
It was only when Trisong was 80, an age where even his sons were old men that China finally failed. The Xia Dynasty, the new warlord regime was called, fell into disarray and the dikes broke. Bhod’s soldiers swarmed into Sichuan like a tidal wave. Decades of preparation cumulated in one final sweeping conflict.
And as the famous novel said, "the empire, long divided, must unite; long united, must divide." China was united under better management—wiser management. From mountain to sea and sea to desert, China was united once more, under the banner of the Western barbarians.
It was at this peak of achievement that Trisong Gampo passed away. He left behind him a nation on the cusp of greatness, ready to realize its true destiny.
大羌太祖和裕文皇帝 宋貞·錦報
The Grand Ancestor Emperor Heyu “the Scholarly” Songtsen Gampo
Songtsen Gampo took the throne as an aged man. Flowing locks of greyed hair, wrinkles dotting his face. Songtsen in many ways knew that he was destined to be a footnote in history, overshadowed by his father, and as he would have mused on his deathbed, hopefully by his son. But while he may have reigned for but 16 years, his contributions are not to be understated.
Songtsen’s story begins much, much earlier. He was a boy when his father conquered Bhod and proclaimed a new empire, watching and learning from an example of a towering figure.
As Songtsen grew into a teen, court struggles would plague the newly established Bhod Empire. Brother turned against brother, and father turned against son. Songtsen maneuvered a life of danger with meticulous calculation, advoiding making rivals or allies. He instead occupied himself with military matters, guarding Bhod’s eastern border.
But a commander he was not, and Bhod’s military failures in this period show that very well. Indeed, China fell to the house of Gampo not by foreign conquest, but by internal chaos. Nevertheless, it distanced himself from politics, and that was all Songtsen wanted. Songtsen would find his true talents when the proverbial dikes broke and Qiang forces swarmed into China proper. In a foreign, hostile land, Songtsen pacified a rebellious population, restored order in lands that had seen uninterrupted war for centuries. He was an administrator with talents not seen amongst his brothers.
And so in Trisong Gampo’s last days, an unexpected heir was chosen.
Songtsen was crowned Emperor of Bhod, and Heyu Emperor of the newly declared Qiang Dynasty, a dynasty named after the ancient peoples that terrorized China’s Western border throughout the Three Kingdoms Era, thought to be a group related to the Bhod of today. But there was no time for celebrations to take place, for there was a greater threat just further eastwards.
The Jurchens, taken advantage of China’s exposed state had marched across the Greatest Pass in All Under Heaven—Shanhai Pass and seized much of the lucrative North China Plain. Knowing full well of the shaky state the Qiang were in following the death of their emperor for 52 long years, the Jurchens knew that it was now or never.
The Heyu Emperor had what was possibly the greatest inheritance in the world—second arguably only to the Ghazalid Caliphate, and now the 50 year old had to beat back all his rivals.
Step by step, absolute power was restored to the throne. Sweeping reforms reforged the centuries-old Confucian bureaucracy into a well-crafted tool of administration; the borders were pacified and each of the Dynasty’s neighbors humbled. A nation just yesterday in anarchy was now unrecognizable in the span of a decade. Deep in the palace complexes of Luoyang, you would see the Emperor awake, signing documents and issuing edicts through the hours.
Songtsen Gampo, the Heyu Emperor, Son of Heaven, Lord of Ten Thousand Years passed away one night in the autumn of 1726, working himself to death.
大羌聖祖弘干仁皇帝 楊啟·錦報
The Holy Ancestor Emperor Honggan “the Benevolent” Yangkey Gampo
Yangkey Gampo, the Honggan Emperor ascended to the throne at the age of 32, by far the youngest monarch China had seen in a very, very long time. And with youth comes hotheadedness. With China finally resembling a unified, centralized polity once more, even striking out against her Northern neighbours, the Honggan Emperor precieved himself to have the task, bestowed to him by history to secure the Qiang’s place in the sun.
The invasion of Annam in 1729 was a new page in Qiang history. The Qiang military, a behemoth for even a nation the size of China had always been designed to fight wars as the home team. Foreign detours were rare, and when undertaken, often with the aid of local interest groups.
Moreover, the Qiang military was divided into two: the 16 “League Armies”, organized around Mongol-Tibetan heavy infantry and horsemen; and the “Han armies”, formation while technologically superior, far inferior in quality. This war saw the realization that the military caste of the league armies was showing its strain. Of the 290,000 men that crossed the Viet border, nearly all were recruited from Southern China—Han country. Han forces, of which the Yunnanese jungle fighters were (incorrectly) classified as proved more suited to fighting the area for reasons of logistics and manpower.
Victory in Vietnam was followed by war in Thailand, the long-reigning hegemon of Indochina. Such wars, bloody and often hurting China more than it benefitted was ultimately not a means of obtaining gain, but of prestige and power projection. China had arguably never been so strong since the days of the Tang Dynasty a millennia ago.
But China’s true problems have never been solved, and it is a fact that keeps the Honggan Emperor awake at night: There is the ever-present problem of the treasury, with the vast sums of loot that came from Bod's rise just 30 years ago finally starting to run out. The taxation system is in dire need of streamlining, the merchants have to be made to accept Qiang rule and the military has to be drastically downsized.
With the borders secured with sweat and toil, the house of Gampo seems able to catch its breath. The problems of China have been lying in wait, and it is Yangkey Gampo’s chance to avert them before they strike.
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Isaac Beach
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Thanks! Sichuan is a part of the Xin Dynasty, I just didn't want to paste Xin more than once because I thought it'd look messy. For several reasons China's very balkanized, and aside the Xin, Song and Yangtze there are Qinghai, Tibet, Yunnan, Shanghai and Gvangjsih, not to mention all the little European enclaves and the not-so-little Spanish Formosa.
I look forward to it! Shoot me a message when you do or I might miss it.
It's just Kush. IOTL, the Egyptians saw their subjugation by the Kushites as a great disgrace, purging many of their historical records of the Kushite 25th Dynasty. I decided to expand on this and voila! genocide in Kush. Standard practice for nations of this time I'd say.
Yes. Medes won it, but was less light handed than the Achaemenids, meaning that there are Persian city states in Anatolia.
No one really. At most, you could say that it was Macedonia, but they're tied down in their own version of the Pyrrhic War.
Uhhhhhhhh blame lazy worldbuilding I guess. They're combining Vedic thought and Zoroastrianism, though the former is gaining an upper hand. Tradeee with the Chu Empire is limited as of yet, but increasing. They're also periodically at war with their mortal enemies, the Scythian.
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Ah. I see.
Hm. A pity. Better unite the Greeks, and remove those bad little Persian City-States, and be Greek!
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