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Here's something I was working on for my project, but kind of temporarily abandoned. Seeing that the MBAM is currently in the works, I might revisit it once the MBAM is finished. This was kind of a "tactical" style version of my previous map. I wanted to do something kind of Sky-Net style. :p

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Here's a WIP for a weird-concept project I'm working on called Homeworld-1. Inspiration mostly came from my recent binge-watch of Stargate: SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis, especially the Atlantis episode "The Game."

Basic backstory: I somehow managed to travel back to the dawn of civilization, probably around 3000 or 4000 BC (again, it's a work in progress). My time machine breaks, but with the help of some alien technology, I'm able to make myself immortal in the Captain America or Wolverine sense. Permanently stuck in my mid-20s, I come before the rest of humanity to share my bountiful knowledge. For the next several thousand years, I serve as a kind of Oracle or Prophet or Most Wise Human to the people of the Earth. I try to convince them that I'm not a god, and it take a while before they accept that. At this point, I should point out that my knowledge of laws, technology, how to build civilizations, engineering, architecture, etc., are all merely above-average, not spectacular or superhuman. This story is based on my actual self, so there's a lot more Wizard of Oz going on than Apophis. If there's an answer I just don't have, I'll say something like "that's for you to figure out. I can only teach you so much" or some other such nonsense.

This also gives me the opportunity to be the adult in the room for many of the world's conflicts and disagreements. A lot of wars haven't happened under my guidance, and genocide isn't a thing in this world. I sent explorers out to the Americas much earlier than they had any business going, and helped keep things like smallpox and bubonic plague from killing too many people. "Colonization" is a lot different here, too. The Europeans still ended up ahead, technologically, so their colonies in Africa were under very strict orders: you are there to HELP them set things up. You do not kill them or enslave them. Be nice. Keep a portion of the diamonds or whatever but you behave yourselves or you're in deep shit.

The current era is the early-modern period. Technology hasn't advanced as quickly as I'd like, but it's coming along. Right now it kind of looks "clockpunk," with airships and Da Vinci-style machines. Steam engines are becoming more common, but I've made it clear that too much fire will trap more heat in the atmosphere and eventually melt the ice caps. Well, not in those exact terms, but they got the point. I even wrote a book of laws and guiding principles, full of knowledge that I shamelessly stole like Nick Webber in Hot Tub Time Machine.

Here are some general notes:

- Without telling them that I was a member of the tribe, I helped the Israelites stick around into the modern era
- I managed to keep the Muslims from massacring each other and made Mecca and Medina their own independent state
- My bias for the West Coast should be obvious. That's where I spend most of my time
- That little blip in Colorado is Cheyenne Mountain, where my main "palace" is. I have several, but not in a Saddam kind of way
- Most people speak my modern English as a lingua franca. Modern slang like cool, bro, awesome, buddy, and dickwad have wormed their way into wide usage. I'm kind of not sorry
- As the official border-drawer for new colonies and disputed areas, it was really easy to shape the world to my liking. As the "adult in the room," I've made it work
- I managed to let the Christians split into Catholic and Protestant without too much violence. Christianity is also a lot less anti-pagan than IOTL
- The Europeans were allowed to settle in North and South America so long as they didn't displace/murder all the natives. Most cultures in the New World are syncretic as a result, though unmixed groups are still prevalent
- I may have a personal army, but I also serve as a one-man UN, and any genocidal or megalomaniacal lunatic gets put down pretty quick once a coalition forms
- That red country in the Deep South is a syndicalist/socialist experiment. People have to consult me before making big changes like that. Usually I give them the go-ahead, but I try to let them fail when they need to
- I've actually done a pretty good job of hammering home the concept of racial and cultural equality. (They don't wear very much clothing because it's really hot, not because they're "savage," Mark. Shut up)
- Tricks like phosphorous fertilizer and crop rotation have helped keep people from starving, but it helps that I taught them proper nutrition and the dangers of obesity

If any of this seems unrealistic, please let me know. One concept I'm toying with is an HG Wells approach to time travel. That is to say, you can muck around all you want, but things aren't going to change all that much. The amount of convergence in the backstory and on the map demonstrates this. So if that was one of your gripes, I've got it covered. Again, feedback welcome. I tried to go for something different this time, so if the wax on my wings is melting, please say so. Thank you.

It's a...nice idea, but you are taking out common indecency, and how good we are at killing, and murdering each other, and finding ways to do it, and disobey orders, and rules.

At some point, they will try and kill you, and when that fails, they lock you away for the longest time, and get back to the good old ways of humanity, with using your knowledge and technology, and as with all good lines of kings...all it's takes is one, or two bad ones to end the kingdom.

So...this is a idealistic. Nice, but idealistic.
 
It's a...nice idea, but you are taking out common indecency, and how good we are at killing, and murdering each other, and finding ways to do it, and disobey orders, and rules.

At some point, they will try and kill you, and when that fails, they lock you away for the longest time, and get back to the good old ways of humanity, with using your knowledge and technology, and as with all good lines of kings...all it's takes is one, or two bad ones to end the kingdom.

So...this is a idealistic. Nice, but idealistic.

Are you telling me that human beings are shitty and violent? Because it sounds like you're saying humans are shitty and violent.

But really, I agree. It is idealistic. That's an integral part of my personality. I thought the second tower might stay up on 9/11, so I can be a tad too optimistic sometimes.
 

Dorozhand

Banned
Disorganized WIP I've been working on off and on forever. A lot of things are unlabeled so here's an incomplete list of some of the states here:

Asia -
Uzbek Karakhanid Sultanate - darker red
Tuva Khanate - Dark green
Buryaad Khanate - lighter blue
Idiqut - yellow-green
Merkit Khanate - Orange
Kyrgyz Khanate - Brown
Khakass Khanate - light yellow
Second Tibetan Empire (Khitan)
Chandellid Empire - grey green
Hoysala Empire
Kakatiya Empire
Chola Empire
Lambakanna

Arabia -
Kathiri Sultanate of Hadhramaut
Ghamidi Sultanate
Anazznid Sultanate
Yamid Sultanate
Yemeni Confederacy
Omani Sultanate
Shammarid Sultanate of Taima
Manasiri Sultanate
Qasimid Sultanate

Russia -
Principality of Rzhev
Apostolic Kingdom of Erzia
Principality of Chernigov-Pereyaslavl
Cuman Khanate

The magenta blob in central asia represents the Holy Khanate, a collection of steppe tribes which revolted against the Great Khan of the Mongol Empire under the influence of the new Bepoyonquv religion. Now, nearly a century after the death of Munara, this empire has come into existence to the great aid of spreading his teaching. To the west, a massive religious war has erupted due to the conversion of the Cuman Khan, and several European states have joined a papal-encouraged crusade to stamp this out, while the Cuman people fight for their lives and the Holy Khanate invades Chernigov-Pereyaslavl to aid the Aldiqirar there. The Qwarezmid Empire, sworn enemy of Aldiqirar and persecutor of Bepoyonquv, is cracking under the pressure of popular unrest and nomadic invasion from this religion whose spread has become impossible to contain. Several khan of central asia have converted, and their states are represented with a magenta outline for this. The conversion of the Khan of the Tuvans has resulted in a tense relationship with the Jin Empire, while the conditions for that empire's collapse are beginning to align. Duruo Ji, who will come to be the Angel Emperor of Great Shao, is a young junior magistrate at this point.

PoD - OTL Emperor Gaozong of Song failed to flee southwards and the majority of the imperial princes in Bianjing were slaughtered in the Jurchen sack of the city. Only a few minor Song royals of the Zhao clan were left and none were the undisputed claimant. Several princes took up command of various elements of the fleeing Song armies and made such defenses in the provinces as they could, but there was little unity and the princes warred with one another as much as they fought the Jin. General Yue Fei, who fought for a Song claimant in Jiangxi, was killed in battle against the Jin in 1131, and general Han Shizong, a close friend of Yue Fei, became jaded at what he saw as the total corruption of the Song state. Rising up against a young and ineffectual Southern Song prince ruling in Hangzhou, he launched a coup and declared himself Emperor of Great Xu. Xu and Southern Song fought a civil war all across southern China while the Jurchen continued to slowly but surely press down from the north. Dividing and conquering, attracting discontented scholars and officials along the way, the Jin formed for themselves a magisterial framework to rule all of China capably. One final campaign in 1143 against Xu completely destroyed the state, now under the rule of Han's son, bringing all of China proper under Jin rule. After this, Jin would go on to defeat and conquer the Western Xia, subdue many of the Mongol tribes and conquer a large western trading empire, along with it bringing in scholars and merchants from all across the globe to Chinese markets, and the free flow of ideas, inventions, and cultures catalyzed what historians have termed the Jin Renaissance, a period of extraordinary cultural achievement after the unification of China under Jin and the westward expansion. Parts of northern Dai Viet were also annexed and held for a time. Emperor Wenzong, the fourth Emperor of Jin, moved the capital of the empire to Luoyang, which he renamed Hongdu, in 1174.

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Are you telling me that human beings are shitty and violent? Because it sounds like you're saying humans are shitty and violent.

But really, I agree. It is idealistic. That's an integral part of my personality. I thought the second tower might stay up on 9/11, so I can be a tad too optimistic sometimes.

Eh, I was too mean on that part.

I like the idea of the man back in time, and there nothing wrong with being a optimistic person. The world always need those kind of people.
 

Dorozhand

Banned
looks like a cool "Native Americans get a leg up" scenario. What's the current year?

Not sure yet, somewhere around 1270

(Who sprayed strawberry coolaid all over Asia?)

The magenta blob in central asia represents the Holy Khanate, a collection of steppe tribes which revolted against the Great Khan of the Mongol Empire under the influence of the new Bepoyonquv religion. Now, nearly a century after the death of Munara, this empire has come into existence to the great aid of spreading his teaching. To the west, a massive religious war has erupted due to the conversion of the Cuman Khan, and several European states have joined a papal-encouraged crusade to stamp this out, while the Cuman people fight for their lives and the Holy Khanate invades Chernigov-Pereyaslavl to aid the Aldiqirar there. The Qwarezmid Empire, sworn enemy of Aldiqirar and persecutor of Bepoyonquv, is cracking under the pressure of popular unrest and nomadic invasion from this religion whose spread has become impossible to contain. Several khans of central asia have converted, and their states are represented with a magenta outline for this. The conversion of the khan of the Tuvans has resulted in a tense relationship with the Jin Empire, while the conditions for that empire's collapse are beginning to align. Duruo Ji, who will come to be the Angel Emperor of Great Shao, is a young junior magistrate at this point.

The Mongol Empire arose after the Jin subdued the southeastern steppe in the 12th century. Mongols united under Yesugei Khan migrated westwards and conquered a vast domain from the Caspian to the Altai Mountains, forging a multi-ethnic confederal empire which is currently collapsing.
 
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Not sure yet, somewhere around 1270

So the Angevins finished the job?


The magenta blob in central asia represents the Holy Khanate, a collection of steppe tribes which revolted against the Great Khan of the Mongol Empire under the influence of the new Bepoyonquv religion. Now, nearly a century after the death of Munara, this empire has come into existence to the great aid of spreading his teaching. .

The map makes it look like they have no "recognized" state of their own, just territory they control within the Khanate and other states. (Plus of course the magenta-outlined converts).
 

Dorozhand

Banned

Yup, with a little help from Frederick Barbarossa, who aided Richard the Lionheart in Lotharingia and Flanders after completing his conquest of the Papal State along with his Byzantine allies. King Richard the Great of France he will be known to history.

The map makes it look like they have no "recognized" state of their own, just territory they control within the Khanate and other states. (Plus of course the magenta-outlined converts).

That's basically the state of affairs right now. The Holy Khanate is still a disorganized confederacy of rebels and loyalists to the Mongol khagan still control much of the steppe.
 
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Might make a series out of this, might not. Depends if I have time :p.

Basic premise is a Virgin Earth is populated by fauna and flora from South East Asia, than 50 million years later the actual nations are ISOT'd. Continental drift was frozen whilst the animals and plants expanded outwards, but has continued now that the nations and humans have arrived.
  1. Northern expansion has been a lot slower than southern expansion. Major efforts are being made to make these footholds self-sustainable, in order to be able to swing into the Americas.
  2. The Yangtze River is full of agricultural/mercantile city states, and serves as a highway for colonization further inland.
  3. Burma never recovered from its civil war. Poverty, juntas and famine are their only claim to fame.
  4. The fertile Ganges Delta, like the Yangtze, contains the most foreign refugees and city-states. Maybe one day they'll unite and form a proper republic, but for now they're too technologically backwards and divided.
  5. Xindei is the first non-transported nation that fulfills the requirements to be listed as a sovereign state. It was created as a successor state to Thailand and Cambodia, founded on anti-royalist beliefs.
  6. Thailand hopes to take all of India and to use it as a launch pad into the oil rich Middle East.
  7. Aceh secured their freedom from Indonesia, but at a significant technological cost. Their colonization efforts have been restricted to the northern tip of Sri Lanka, where border clashes with the Andaman and Nicobar Republic are common.
  8. The South China Sea dispute has still not been resolved, and without China in the mix, competition for the islands is more heated. Malaysia and Vietnam are butting heads over it.
  9. Mindanao is a lot less extremist than it used to be, but still isolates itself. Reports of Christian purges are common from refugees escaping the island.
  10. Indonesia is fighting hard to regain control of these islands, and they're finally winning. Chaos and anarchism, as well as healthy dose of pirating ruled over these islands for the first fifty years.
  11. Not really West Papua anymore, but they name kinda stuck. Currently going through a detente with Indonesia after years of fairly cold behaviour. They're actually helping the Indonesians reclaim the pirate islands.
  12. Competition for land down under will be fierce in the following years, but for now the three countries that have staked claims so far are distant enough to not be worried. The Australian Orangutan is quite a sight!
  13. Biologically and politically regarded as the swing point into Africa.
  14. A series of practically independent military forts that are only held to Indonesia by semi-regular naval visits. The visits are hard to do with limited oil, however.

I'm not sure if I'm 100% happy with this finished project (or the idea of the fauna and flora being transported), but considering it's the first map I've finished enough to post it is a good start!!
 
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Might make a series out of this, might not. Depends if I have time :p.

Basic premise is a Virgin Earth is populated by fauna and flora from South East Asia, than 50 million years later the actual nations are ISOT'd. Continental drift was frozen whilst the animals and plants expanded outwards, but has continued now that the nations and humans have arrived.
  1. Northern expansion has been a lot slower than southern expansion. Major efforts are being made to make these footholds self-sustainable, in order to be able to swing into the Americas.
  2. The Yangtze River is full of agricultural/mercantile city states, and serves as a highway for colonization further inland.
  3. Burma never recovered from its civil war. Poverty, juntas and famine are their only claim to fame.
  4. The fertile Ganges Delta, like the Yangtze, contains the most foreign refugees and city-states. Maybe one day they'll unite and form a proper republic, but for now they're too technologically backwards and divided.
  5. Xindei is the first non-transported nation that fulfills the requirements to be listed as a sovereign state. It was created as a successor state to Thailand and Cambodia, founded on anti-royalist beliefs.
  6. Thailand hopes to take all of India and to use it as a launch pad into the oil rich Middle East.
  7. Aceh secured their freedom from Indonesia, but at a significant technological cost. Their colonization efforts have been restricted to the northern tip of Sri Lanka, where border clashes with the Andaman and Nicobar Republic are common.
  8. The South China Sea dispute has still not been resolved, and without China in the mix, competition for the islands is more heated. Malaysia and Vietnam are butting heads over it.
  9. Mindanao is a lot less extremist than it used to be, but still isolates itself. Reports of Christian purges are common from refugees escaping the island.
  10. Indonesia is fighting hard to regain control of these islands, and they're finally winning. Chaos and anarchism, as well as healthy dose of pirating ruled over these islands for the first fifty years.
  11. Not really West Papua anymore, but they name kinda stuck. Currently going through a detente with Indonesia after years of fairly cold behaviour. They're actually helping the Indonesians reclaim the pirate islands.
  12. Competition for land down under will be fierce in the following years, but for now the three countries that have staked claims so far are distant enough to not be worried. The Australian Orangutan is quite a sight!
  13. Biologically and politically regarded as the swing point into Africa.
  14. A series of practically independent military forts that are only held to Indonesia by semi-regular naval visits. The visits are hard to do with limited oil, however.

I'm not sure if I'm 100% happy with this finished project (or the idea of the fauna and flora being transported), but considering it's the first map I've finished enough to post it is a good start!!


I get that West Papua will likely go its own way when Indonesia prolapses for being the quasi-feudal half-heartedly civic thing that it is, but knowing the demographics and the entrenched dominance of the local army command, it's not going to be ruled by native Papuans.
 
After creating my map about the german settlement and presence in Europe:

http://arminius1871.deviantart.com/art/Germans-in-Eastern-Europe-map-683122099

I created one about the Poles as well:

http://arminius1871.deviantart.com/art/Polish-settlement-and-presence-in-Europe-689990629?ga_submit_new=10:1498997514

I hope you like it!

Arminius1871

Wonderful! Only quibble would be that the ruhrpolen might be worth an inset. Any other groups you might do this for?
 
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