Map Thread XV
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Because jpegs are considered heresy on the board, due to their graininess.
@HowAboutThisForAName doesn't save his maps as jpgs, Deviantart is just dumb and sizes them wrong. Many of RoyalPsycho's maps on there have the same issue. You have to click "download" to see the full-sized image (in a popup window, not downloaded to your computer; the button's poorly labelled).
Upvoteanthology
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Actually, the way it works on Deviantart is that you can choose to show it as full sized, but some people only decide to show a preview. I presume that's what they're doing, because I've clicked "show as full size" on every one of my uploads and they've worked better than fine.
Isaac Beach
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Well that seems a silly thing to get upset over, and frankly I don't take too kindly to it. Of the million things people can criticise about my work, and they do deserve criticism, the way I post them only comes across as pedantic. But no, I save them as PNGs. It's the way Devianatart sizes images. If that undermines them so much so that people can't read them at all, I'll see about changing that format.
Yes, spot on. It tends to better fit screens and if you use your arrow keys like I do to navigate the screen and press right or left it'll stupidly take you to the next artwork in a gallery unless you refresh the page. After a long time it becomes exceedingly tedious. On maps with legends where you have to do a lot of scrolling it's the most annoying thing in the world. Besides, surely people can just double click the image to bring it to it's original size or otherwise download it?
You seem to be missing one for the list of the same in both maps, good c'old Minnesota. (also, the answer for why Minnesota is so cold is that it keeps the Texans away. All except for one, that being my own father...)
I also like how California and Hawaii swapped places.
I would be interested in seeing a series out of this.
Upvoteanthology
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That makes sense! You know, I never really knew why people did that, but that's logical.
I suppose this is worth continuing; a near ideal Europe. Fair Warning- quite possibly full of ASB-ness or political opinions or both.
In this Europe, following an equally disastrous 30 years' War, genuine appreciation for tolerance of differing view became a much more followed principal. Peace was achieved not on emphasis of the supremacy of the Nation-State (and hence ethnic group=polity failed to materialize as an equation in many minds) an early European Parliament, which gave (initially non-voting) seats to minorities or opposition groups just as to absolutist monarchs. The Enlightenment came about with roughly the same principals, albeit with tension from/towards established groups, and with more participation from rural and impoverished groups. When the French Revolution came about, it really came to mean 'Liberty, Equality, and Fraternity for All!' - including colonial subjects, foreigners, and even the deposed King (who supported himself by living at the court of his in-laws in Vienna), and France had a strong Republican system (without Political parties even) that mostly maintained itself from the get-go. Subsequent Revolutions were generally avoided by Monarchs granting constitutional authority, or simply abdicating (as in the case of the Holy Roman Empire). Founded in 1854, the European Zone is the oldest and one of the wealthiest zones making up the World system. Various transnational minority groups- the Jews, the Gypsies, the Sami, etc. - have their own seats in Parliament today. The United Kingdom of the British Isles and the Turkish Federation (both federalized states where monarchs are now mere model, polite celebrities) stand by as associated states, rather than full members.
The World Wars of the 20th century were avoided entirely, as were Totalitarian Fascism and Communism, yet in government control perhaps lies this Europe's greatest flaws. Compared to many of the other Zones, the European Zone has been zealous in laws, regulations, and rules. Vespuccilanders scoff at the re-distributive economics; Hindustanis scoff at the hard European distinction between politics and personality morality. Much of these have been justified, the Europeans argue, such as the late '90s ban on GMOs (despite their use in other places since the 50s), or the continued illegality of home-schooling kids under 12. In cultural outlook too, an aging and wealthy Europe is not exactly racist, but considerably confident in its belief to en-culture develop other areas in its molds. After all, they may say, what other culture could have given the world the vibrant classical music, republicanism, welfare statism, urban planning, and fine cheese developed and now made locally everywhere else?
In this Europe, following an equally disastrous 30 years' War, genuine appreciation for tolerance of differing view became a much more followed principal. Peace was achieved not on emphasis of the supremacy of the Nation-State (and hence ethnic group=polity failed to materialize as an equation in many minds) an early European Parliament, which gave (initially non-voting) seats to minorities or opposition groups just as to absolutist monarchs. The Enlightenment came about with roughly the same principals, albeit with tension from/towards established groups, and with more participation from rural and impoverished groups. When the French Revolution came about, it really came to mean 'Liberty, Equality, and Fraternity for All!' - including colonial subjects, foreigners, and even the deposed King (who supported himself by living at the court of his in-laws in Vienna), and France had a strong Republican system (without Political parties even) that mostly maintained itself from the get-go. Subsequent Revolutions were generally avoided by Monarchs granting constitutional authority, or simply abdicating (as in the case of the Holy Roman Empire). Founded in 1854, the European Zone is the oldest and one of the wealthiest zones making up the World system. Various transnational minority groups- the Jews, the Gypsies, the Sami, etc. - have their own seats in Parliament today. The United Kingdom of the British Isles and the Turkish Federation (both federalized states where monarchs are now mere model, polite celebrities) stand by as associated states, rather than full members.
The World Wars of the 20th century were avoided entirely, as were Totalitarian Fascism and Communism, yet in government control perhaps lies this Europe's greatest flaws. Compared to many of the other Zones, the European Zone has been zealous in laws, regulations, and rules. Vespuccilanders scoff at the re-distributive economics; Hindustanis scoff at the hard European distinction between politics and personality morality. Much of these have been justified, the Europeans argue, such as the late '90s ban on GMOs (despite their use in other places since the 50s), or the continued illegality of home-schooling kids under 12. In cultural outlook too, an aging and wealthy Europe is not exactly racist, but considerably confident in its belief to en-culture develop other areas in its molds. After all, they may say, what other culture could have given the world the vibrant classical music, republicanism, welfare statism, urban planning, and fine cheese developed and now made locally everywhere else?
Figured I might as well post this WIP linguistic map, just an idea I had: don't have any set POD worked out so it may be implausible, but basically the Bulgars end up moving into Anatolia instead of Moesia, at some point convert to Islam(perhaps forced to), and eventually take Constantinople and form an empire similar to that of the Ottomans IOTL. This is what I have so far for the modern day languages:
And here's what I was originally focussed on, the Western(Oghur, in turquoise) and Southwestern(Oghuz, in green) branches of the Turkic language family:
I may or may not finish the world in its entirety, and I may or may not base an Inkscape/Inkscapes off of this(if I can finally bring myself to get through another Inkscape without losing interest and starting a new one before I've finished).
And here's what I was originally focussed on, the Western(Oghur, in turquoise) and Southwestern(Oghuz, in green) branches of the Turkic language family:
I may or may not finish the world in its entirety, and I may or may not base an Inkscape/Inkscapes off of this(if I can finally bring myself to get through another Inkscape without losing interest and starting a new one before I've finished
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BTW, I hope I'm not coming across as excessively critical or hostile: I have an unfortunate tendency to pick nits.
The rise of the Second Mexican Empire was a difficult one. The first few years were fraught with conflict between the Conservatives and Liberals. After the Confederate revolution concluded with a Confederate victory with assistance from the British Empire (who sought to expand their influence in the Americas). Aid for the Liberals stopped from US with Lincoln's loss to McClellen during the 1864 election, the shame of losing the Civil War staining Lincoln's reputation. In addition, French aid to Maximilian I's regime in Mexico increased after the success of the CSA. Still, conflict continued, though it slowly become less and less. Still, even among those loyal to Maximilian I, there was still discontent. Many Liberals hated him for being a monarch, while the monarch was too liberal for many conservatives.
This, however, changed in 1874, with the start of the Mexican-Confederate War. The Confederacy intended to capitalize on the strife in Mexico to secure both a Pacific port as well as the territory of the short-lived Republic of the Rio Grande. They might've had more success 5 to 8 years before, but by 1874 the conflict was less severe than in 1867. In addition, the Confederate invasion served as a unifying factor - both the Conservatives and Liberals were (for the most part) opposed to slavery, and saw the Confederates as Anglo Invaders who would force the evils of slavery upon Mexican territory, if not people. Although the Confederacy had some early success, they were soon stalled by the Mexican Army, which had support from French forces within Mexico. The Confederacy looked for aid in their war from the British Empire, who had previously helped them, but weren't able to obtain such assistance, as British intervention against the French-supported Mexicans could've lead to a war between the British and French empires. As such, during the war, the British kept assistance to arms shipments and training. Meanwhile, the French were more than willing to declare war against the Confederacy.
When the Confederate advance had been stalled, there was some questioning as to how far to advance against the CSA. Should they merely maintain the current borders, or push into the CSA to regain territory they had lost decades before? There were many nationalists on both sides, and as a result, they decided to regain their lost territory. The Mexican push into Texas was eventually stalled, but the Confederate forces were unable to push the Mexicans back across the Rio Grande. When the Mexicans and Confederates were brought to the table for the peace treaty, it was an embarrassment for Dixie - the entirety of the Arizona territory was ceded to Mexico, and the state of Texas' southern border was reduced to the Nueces River.
And what of the United States? After McClellan left office in the Election of 1872, the government was not willing to start another war with the Confederacy so soon after the first one. Many historians debate whether the USA could've won the war had they entered. Some say they would have, as the Confederates were embroiled against the Mexicans. Others believe that the British, as before, would be a deciding factor in favor of the Confederacy. Regardless, the US didn't enter the war here. The Wheeler administration suffered much controversy at the time, as not only did they not take the chance to bring back the southern states into the union, but he had also let rightfully American territory be taken by the Mexicans.
After the end of the Mexican-Confederate War in 1877, the North American continent would be quiet, at least until 1902, when the Great War began with the Confederate invasion of Cuba...
Isaac Beach
Banned
Oh no, no, I think it's what people expect, and not in a bad way. I just wanted to have my laptop before I replied, previous posts were on my phone.
Well I imagine that'd be further terrorism in England. I'm not sure if they should be there as it seems to me that the technocracy wouldn't want to be trying to revolutionise two opposing factions at once. Might retcon it.
I was thinking that, given the British have the Dutch East Indies, there would be less impetus to secure India; not to abandon it all together mind, and I don't really think colonisation would cease, but perhaps the north-west would get off rather lightly. Whether they would therefore be secured by the French, Portuguese or Dutch I don't know. So basically, I was thinking Britain still colonises the bulk of India, perhaps up to the OTL Rajasthani border, perhaps with an independent Durrani Empire, Sikh state and other minor princes. Originally the big blue blob was going to be a Durrani Empire that had managed to move into the vacuum that was left in the wake of the British Empire's collapse, but that's not particularly realistic for an empire centered on Afghanistan of all places. So perhaps it's in need of some divvying up.
That'd be appreciated actually, I've noticed people on here have such a pretty way of showing conflicts and invasions and whatnot and mine always look like trash, comparatively, even though it should theoretically all look the same given it's paint.
The Technologists (Working name for this TL's radical ideologyTM) very much believe in an anationalist philosophy and a world state, seeing nationalism as an illogical anachronism, and so even within the Congo technocracy they are trying to eradicate their own cultural identity; Congolese nativists are opposed to that philosophy. The ethnic separatists are, well, ethnic groups such as the Makua, Mbunda and the Ngoni.
600 million years ago, a great continent spans the south pole, on a world having just recovered from being a planet completely frozen in ice. While it may be the same size, density, atmospheric composition and similar moon as our Earth; it it is not the Earth. Welcome to Tellurus during its Ediacaran phase.
Other maps explaining the names are on my world's thread.
Other maps explaining the names are on my world's thread.
I actually have a touch-screen laptop and it works quite well without using arrow keys to navigate throughout the downloaded map.
That was much less painful than I thought it'd be. I'm still deciding on whether or not I want to add that small bit of lake Huron. On the one hand, it's effort, but on the other, kind of odd to exclude it. Also not sure if those are the stats I want in the key (particularly the last two) I'm open to suggestions to change them and any aspect, as I'm not sure if this I like this as the final product.
Because those places are still underpopulated.
And also its not. See: Antarctica. Australia. And a few minor island chains.
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