Map Thread XV
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I'm not fooled, that's a Honduras wank not a El Salvador wank. And their technology has declined by 90 years or so so it's a wank by land area only. You should have uploaded planet E not H.
Actually it's only been 88, and counting...
I need a cloning device. PERIOD. It has nothing to do with getting things done.
I know what you mean. Every time I see "Beedok has atached a file to the map thread" in my alerts I cross my fingers. Only to find out its some wacky experiment with a triangle based color scheme
, no disrespect to the wacky experiment with the triangle based color scheme. What was going on there anyways?Your Spanish Guelders seems a bit weird here, what is the Basemap you are working with!?
Is it? Base map here: http://imgur.com/QdJSXEZ. But I found it roughly like that on two older maps, the base map and another one. For some reason I can't find the second map, not on google nor on my pc. I'm simply using Google Images for maps, haven't found a good resource for old maps yet.Your Spanish Guelders seems a bit weird here, what is the Basemap you are working with!?
I understood that but it still seemed somewhat unlikely; these are countries that want to be free of European influence, a deal where they still have to bow to a foreign power that they want nothing to do with is going to be massively unpopular. On the European side, colonization of Africa is going to be massively unpopular as subjugation of angry native populations is going to look like a huge drain on resources when there's free, unpopulated land for the picking elsewhere. Every dollar going into African colonies is not only a dollar away from the motherland but also a dollar not going into securing influence in the terra nullis. For this reason decolonization would probably occur much more quickly; why would Germany worry at all about the affairs of some small country in Africa when there's substantially more money to be made elsewhere?
It seems like with an uber-Germany in Europe though, Ethiopia would have no trouble securing a strong ally interested in curbing the influence of a rising European star. An independent Egypt would be similarly interested in reducing Italy's African presence. When did this happen and under what circumstances?
It seems excessive to me as Britain was unable/unwilling to do this at any point OTL and China would never stop fomenting unrest in the occupied areas. Given that there seems to still be an Imperial Japan in the region that has conflicting interest in Asia, you can bet Britain will have a tough time getting a victory of this sort, particularly if the US isn't helping (which seems likely given that the distance between the US and China is now more than doubled and the US will likely be more interested in settling the new land than kicking much less threatening Communists out of China).
My only qualm with this is that even with colonialism OTL, conflict in Europe didn't stop happening, it just happened more on foreign soil and when it did happen in Europe it happened a LOT. Britain and France, even with new lands, would still be concerned with the balance of power on the continent I imagine, particularly given Germany's new control over vast swathes of developed land while the new British and French colonial empires would be mostly wilderness.
Partly could not but mostly would not. Russia ITTL has been beaten more badly in the Great War than OTL and so I imagine would have difficulty expanding their influence around Mongolia to higher heights than they reached OTL. Greater desire for access to the Pacific makes sense for seeking control over Manchuria I suppose but they'll run into the same problems they faced with Imperial Japan as OTL as well as a unified and autonomous China. More than anything though, in my mind, is the existence of a massive, stable, powerful Germany being just a stone's throw from Moscow; I imagine that this will dominate foreign policy more than anything else.
Fair enough. If you wanted, you could make it a kind of donut-world so that North now connects to South, which would make for some interesting new international variables. Of course, that would raise all sorts of questions about the day-night cycle and the climate but with such a complex geographical idea, a bit of handwavium is to be expected x)
Well, I would say that China would object but I guess the British presence in southern China would negate that. I'm inclined to lean toward independence, in line with accelerated decolonization + Japanese focus turned East but it's your project of course.
If the Second Republic is still in power, and particularly if the Restoration continues unabated, interest in Morocco will likely remain, at least for a while. Of course, Morocco fell mostly under French rule so total Spanish control seems a bit unlikely in any scenario; as far as my knowledge goes, Spain just wasn't in a position to assert control over such a large, hostile, and developed population. An attempt to conquer and hold all of Morocco by the Restoration (probably the only government that would attempt such a thing) would probably lead to a much more radical Republic taking control and perhaps even a fracturing of Spain. Control of Morocco in 1950 seems far-fetched in any scenario though, at least to my eyes.I guess I used the wrong color I should of used colony color. All the OTL maps show Morocco as the same color as Spain. As for revolution I guess it got butterflied away because I forgot about it. For the different borders this is what the OTL map shows at 1900so I took it as those states going different ways. At that point were they for sure going to go to the french? I could always change it.
It seems that if the British were more relaxed, though, they would just grant India independence sans-Ghandi. India wanted independence bad, and the British weren't really interested in forming an Imperial Federation with India as India would inevitably be the center of any sort of equal union. Even if these tensions were relaxed with a colonization of new lands by the British Empire rather than just Britain, it seems to me that racism would still carry over tensions to the new lands as Indian and British settlers would be culturally distinct and questions of which lands were British and which were Indian would begin to be raised.
No problem! Adhering to the same ideas as the original is fine. Jcw3 also explained that the Philippines fell under the British sphere of influence. I suppose I see this happening but I can't see the Philippines submitting to any foreign power. If the change happened in 1900, in came just in the middle of the Philippine-American War, a war that saw Americans employ and develop torture tactics on Filipino rebels and civilians alike and a time where Filipino desire for independence was running high. Independence from the US I can see happening rather quickly but any new government that bowed to another Western power would find itself out of power rather quickly. What I can see is either a Filipino-Japanese alliance against the British or a Filipino-British alliance against the Japanese but becoming a dominion in the British Empire is pretty much off the table entirely as far as I can see.
Argentina and Peru are indeedgetting powerful, though I'm wondering why Peru's neighbors let that happen; it seems that Colombia and Chile would find common ground against that which I guess makes me wonder how Colombia and Chile got so thoroughly screwed. I understand that the change happened at one of the heights of colonialism but by 1950, it's at the point where OTL decolonization was becoming impossible to oppose. In this world, for reasons I stated earlier, it seems that decolonization would be accelerated. As far as Chinese claims go, I'm no expert on China but I would imagine they wouldn't be particularly satisfied with their Russian border.
I'm glad you're having fun with it!
I was testing you (and totally not distracted by the wonderful youtube channel Geography Now posting their Honduras episode today).
Wow, I thought it was over 100 at least.
I'd actually want a bit of genetic modification tech if I was given one... Just one small fix needed.
A few things. A) I wanted to see if I could get that colour scheme to work and how legible it might be. B) I wanted a little self pampering by making a mostly Buddhist world. C) I wanted to see what would happen if I tried to stick to natural borders not used as national borders OTL as much as possible. (A few OTL ones had to be used, but I still think it worked fairly well.)I know what you mean. Every time I see "Beedok has atached a file to the map thread" in my alerts I cross my fingers. Only to find out its some wacky experiment with a triangle based color scheme
My bad, what I though was Spanish Guelders was in fact Overmaas so it checks out!!
As for a good resource for old map do you know about David Rumsey's Map Collection!?
I consider it odd that the Americans lack an overseas presence despite having a vastly superior navy to either involved power
It has been 30 years since the Wells Event. Richard Nixon is campaigning for reelection, for a second term as the Second Republican President of this USA since 1960. The USA and USSR have expanded across the world greatly. The US touches all continents besides Europe and Asia. Administrative Territories string across the Southern Hemisphere. In 1961 the US fought the Congo War, against black separatists attempting to make the "Negro States of America" in Central Africa. This act began the US' transition out of the 1950s culture. It would be slow and painful. Several Declarations of independence from the Mexican states where met with Federal Troops gunning down helpless militia's, and using Napalm on a ramshackle village that was supposed to be "New" Mexico City. Mass rioting occurred in 1966 following the repealing of Federally instated laws in the deep south, obviously Democratic candidates dominated the South, and as did the presidency of 1968 with President George Wallace promising Southern Immigrants to the Central American and Mexican States the right to vote whether to remain segregated or not. From the balcony of the State Capital of Alabama, president Wallace remarked in a speech, "Segregation Now, Segregation Tomorrow, and Segregation Forever." The late 60s and Early 70s, saw massive anti-Jim Crow Riots across the South and White Dominated States in Nicaragua, and Panama (Panama was dominated by White Middle Class workers who worked on the New Panama Canal after an act by President Lodge in 1962). Other White immigrants from the South and Midwest left for the Territory of La Plata, in Argentina, and Uruguay. Other territories in South America where dominated by Southern Whites, who wanted segregation applied to state status, many Southern Law Makers who were radicals of this demanded White Only states. The racism coming from the south and President Wallace, saw huge gains in the Republican Party. Influential White Supremacists, such as Tom Metzger of the Ku Klux Klan, and George L. Rockwell who had to hide his affiliations with the American Nazi Party, became Leader members of the Democratic Party. Taking the cake for the Democratic Candidate for the 1980 election, is Louisiana State Representative, David Duke. Across the Pacific the Republican Governors of California, Washington, and Oregon, had all been sending settlers to distant Pacific Islands, with the only contact being Hawaii. The Territory of Queensland was established by many surfers, and quickly Grew into America's First Australian Colony, giving rise to the Australian-American Independence Party.
Britain is still known by Britain as a people, officially, the UK is the United Kingdom of Europe, ruled from London, and has increasingly culturally diverged from the United States. Britain has a new sense of Royalist Imperialism, a thirst for Britain to regain its power in the world, and has led to founding of many right wing parties such as the Empire, and Royalist Parties, many of their stalwarts often beat communists and Labour sympathizers. The Soviets and the British do keep a fair portion of soldiers on the border, but know Europe must be repopulated. The Soviets had swallowed up what was Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Yugoslavia, Albania, and Bulgaria, creating new SSRs. Central Asians also dominate Afghanistan and Iran as SSR's. In Eastern Asia, the Soviets are beginning their new colonial schemes following the competed colonization of Japan. British and Soviet Colonization of Africa are also kicking up, in Egypt and South Africa.
Idea taken from
's map Found Here
Map shows approximate settlement of Ukrainians in the early 20th century
Note: Crimea at this time had around 40-50% Ukrainian population in most census Ukrainians came marginally under majority.
Base map taken from my other work: fav.me/dbed8bs
's map Found HereMap shows approximate settlement of Ukrainians in the early 20th century
Note: Crimea at this time had around 40-50% Ukrainian population in most census Ukrainians came marginally under majority.
Base map taken from my other work: fav.me/dbed8bs
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I have a Polish friend and I jokingly call all the Polish cities their German names, and he is ok with itNein! Danzig!
The people in charge of the show were quite smart to pick you as their mapmaker
This map is NOT the original one that I sent to The Great War, for them I created it in their colour scheme with their typeface and other aesthetics that they requested. This version is one I re-did in my own style.
If you would like to see the full 8,000 x 7,000 pixel version please donate and become a Patreon all of my full sized and original files are on there for donators
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This took an UNBELIEVABLE amount of time. I completed it in around 2 weeks because I procrastinated and was justly pushed for doing so: over the past 3 days all I've been doing is working on this map from 9am-11pm
**I know there are some mistakes, but it would mean redrawing the region which I am not about to do anytime soon.
Enjoy!
Quite good, and I'd like to see the rest of the world.
Couldn't quite parse the second part of this sentence.
American blacks are in favor of racial segregation??
Couldn't quite parse the second part of this sentence.
American blacks are in favor of racial segregation??
I have a Polish friend and I jokingly call all the Polish cities their German names, and he is ok with it
We were taught the Italian names of cities on the Dalmatian coast at school (except Dubrovnik) for some reason, still gets me in trouble when I use Zara in stead of Zadar without thinking
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